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puchongite
post Jun 9 2018, 03:42 PM

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Come June 12 BN in Sarawak will be history.

Sabah and Sarawak's support for BN was due to UMNO/BN was in the federal government, not because jibby is more handsome.
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post Jun 10 2018, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 10 2018, 07:41 PM)
With PH in Federal and since Federal suing Sarawak over Sarawak's oil, they have no reason to support PH.
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They may not join PH immediately but they will likely quit BN.

But further down, they will either become irrelevant due to losing state election, or they will join PH. Just make sure you are still around to witness it and don't stop using this nick.
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post Jun 11 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 11 2018, 09:42 AM)
If so many people join PH, then who are there to be the opposition? Isn't that back to Square One?
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As it is now, UMNO is still the party which won the biggest number of seats. And it's very unlikely that will be a big exodus of UMNO people to PH because the process requires them to be independent first before they can be considered to join. So, unlikely there will become too small until the next election.

Secondly PH is made of up multiple parties, so it has it's own built-in mechanism for cross checking and balancing. Only respective parties need to make sure there is no single party which dominates.
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post Jun 11 2018, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 11 2018, 05:58 PM)
For years the people were promised PR works on consensus My foot. Kajang Move shows there is no such thing as consensus. Same with dealing with PAS.
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Kajang Move was a subject matter within the PKR. Why would consensus (across parties) matter ?
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post Jun 12 2018, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 11 2018, 10:29 PM)
Selangor state government formed with only PKR members?
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How is firing of a menteri besar equal to firing of a state government ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajang_Move

The move is said be initiated by Rafizi Ramli and triggered by Khalid Ibrahim himself did a few major things not aware or not approved by the PKR leaders.

In the second phase of development Khalid Ibrahim did sacked many members of state excos includings those from DAP but that's just his desperate attempt to stay in power.
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post Jun 12 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 12 2018, 01:34 PM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...and-terengganu/

Just as thought...
Parties in BN Sarawak out... And pledged support to PH federal government...

I'm more surprise that even PAS terengganu also pledged support... I thought Had I die die won't support PH..
Is there team Hadi & Team B alternative in PAS???
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Tun Dr M is telling us the 2/3 majority in parliament is now looking very doable.
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post Jun 23 2018, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 23 2018, 08:36 AM)
Simple. PR have from Day 1 say they work via consensus. So why is there no more need for consensus?
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You know what is the context of consensus here ?

Here it means consensus to the acceptance of the candidate. Other parties can't interfere with your selection or rejection of a candidate.

In other words, when a candidate is fielded, better make sure other parties have no objection.

But other parties have no say in your choice candidate. That's your own party business.

Such a simple rule also cannot understand ?
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post Jun 23 2018, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 23 2018, 10:54 AM)
Consensus means everybody agree
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Whatever dictionary meaning of consensus are all academic.

All I know later in the afternoon Gerakan is going to announce they are quitting BN. LOL.



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post Jun 24 2018, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 24 2018, 05:08 PM)
Now that the PH Federal government through Petronas suing Sarawak to maintain control of Sarawak's oil, there is even now less reason for Sarawakian to vote for PH.
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Another of your crap theory. If PH is such a dirty word for the Sarawakians, why would the bunch of politicians in the local government decided to quit BN and declared to be PH friendly ? The GPS is digging its own graveyard ?

Or GPS is just sailing along where the wind blows ?
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post Jun 24 2018, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 24 2018, 07:16 PM)
Federal have never sue Sarawak before over control of oil. So why now? For want of nothing to do?

And why is Sarawak, both Sarawak government and Sarawak PKR, fighting Petronas over this?

Petronas goes to court over Sarawak’s O&G authority claim
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/petr...authority-claim
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You made too many assumptions.

Since when the federal government sued Sarawak ?

Seems you have great difficulty with the lines and boundaries of various entities.

That explains why you also have so much confusion with Kajang move issue.


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post Jun 25 2018, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 24 2018, 11:17 PM)
u don't waste time arguing with the fellow...

useless... many already gave up hope explaining or having good discussion...
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Since the traffic here is pretty low, I would reply some. But if they are too much of a nonsense, then I will ignore.

I take those replies as a good "training" to my E.Q.
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post Jul 2 2018, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 2 2018, 02:37 AM)
Petronas only take orders from the Prime Minister. They can't do things without PM's approval. Didn't you know that's how Petronas works? Go get an education and stop acting so ignorant.

Or you didn't know Personas taking Sarawak government to court and for what issue? Then you better go read the news and get updated.
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Petronas takes order from PM, that automatically constitutes a proof of the suit was the idea of the fed government ? You better be more sophisticated than this man !!!
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post Jul 2 2018, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 2 2018, 03:47 PM)
Yes.

That's why Petronas account is accessible to only the PM and not the parliament. That's why nobody besides the PM know where did Petronas money went for the past decades.
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Read this lar :-

http://www.theborneopost.com/2018/06/05/pe...as-dr-m-agreed/

If it is an assumed fact, these people are asking stupid question ?
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2018, 12:06 PM)
Keep supporting BN.. Vote them in GE14..
Yet after win, jump to Parti Warisan 😈

Labuan Umno MP crossover to Warisan

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/446837
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I am glad that Bung Mokhtar stays behind.
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post Jan 5 2019, 03:36 PM

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Why are we concerned with Sabah/Sarawak ?

After GE14, BN is almost completely wiped out from these two states.

It will be interesting to see what is the outcome of the next state election for Sarawak.

It is either PH or Gabungan Parti Sarawak.

But whatever it is, BN is out.
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 5 2019, 03:53 PM)
You do not understand politic

Anyone who give you benefit is your friend. Doesn't matter whether your friend is called BN or PH or Donald Trump. Since now PH doesn't want to give Sarawak their promised 20% oil royalty and 50% tax revenue, they are no friend to PH. If PH does give, then PH is friend of GPS

Simple.
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So ?

The PH does not need GPS so badly at this juncture.

If GPS people want to come over to PH, they either have to break up from GPS or they defect their parties

No way PH can accept GPS as a whole.
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:52 PM

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The politics in Sabah/Sarawak are so boring these days.

Even if the Sarawak PH wins the next State election, I would think the PH in Sarawak will not be under the complete control of the PH in peninsula.

https://www.malaymail.com/s/1709386/sarawak...ing-cooperation

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post Jan 6 2019, 10:20 AM

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Still talking about BN in Sarawak. LOL.

That's history.

There are only PH and GPS and their respective component parties.

What does BN in Sarawak mean ? LOL.
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post Jan 6 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 02:52 PM)
Well, using religion and believes to brainwash people is so damn cheap. The previous regime did well brain washing many of our previous generation.

In fact, I dont care whoever lead this country. But as long that person is smarter than all of us and fit to do their job to lead us instead of bringing us back to the jungle.

Many complains PH after they win, so who else you will choose in the next election? Definitely BN is dead by then, So PAS??

PAS is all about religion. IMO, Religion should not brought into politics. Religion is religion, politics is politics.
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This is secular thinking. The PAS and 'Islamic State' supporters' thinking are that, Islam contains everything that is needed to govern a country.
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post Jan 6 2019, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 11:25 PM)
I some what agree. It about governt the country and not politics. Anyway, It's not suitable in this country. Im not anti Islam. I hope not misunderstood.
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The way to fight theocracy is to prove to the believers of theocracy that theocracy is a dead end. Statistically proven, world wide.

1. Countries with higher religiosity are poorer.

2. Countries with higher religiosity are higher in corruption.

3. Countries with higher religiosity are more backward.

4. Secularism always leads before economic development. That is, before the country improves its economy, the people's secular mentality improves first.

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