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tippman
post Jan 11 2019, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 11 2019, 10:10 AM)
Article 160 (“Interpretation”) of the Federal Constitution defines the term “Malay” in the following manner:

“Malay” means a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, conforms to Malay custom and [is of Malaysian/Singaporean origin]*.
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You are here trolling again? everytime kena whack then you hide into some crappy hole and disappear then reappear again and troll other people.


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Malays (Malay: Orang Melayu, Jawi: أورڠ ملايو) are an Austronesian ethnic group that predominantly inhabit the Malay Peninsula, eastern Sumatra and coastal Borneo, as well as the smaller islands which lie between these locations — areas that are collectively known as the Malay world. These locations today are part of the modern nations of Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, and southern Thailand.

There is considerable genetic, linguistic, cultural, and social diversity among the many Malay subgroups, mainly due to hundreds of years of immigration and assimilation of various regional ethnicity and tribes within Maritime Southeast Asia. Historically, the Malay population is descended primarily from the earlier Malayic-speaking Austronesians and Austroasiatic tribes who founded several ancient maritime trading states and kingdoms, notably Brunei, Kedah, Langkasuka, Gangga Negara, Chi Tu, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Pahang, Melayu and Srivijaya.[15][16]


The above is from wikipedia. Do you understand what is wikipedia?

Got study or not?
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post Jan 11 2019, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(tippman @ Jan 11 2019, 03:29 AM)
You are here trolling again? everytime kena whack then you hide into some crappy hole and disappear then reappear again and troll other people.
The above is from wikipedia. Do you understand what is wikipedia?

Got study or not?
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Wikipedia a Federal Constitution? You know what is a Constitution?


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post Jan 11 2019, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 11 2019, 05:26 PM)
Wikipedia a Federal Constitution? You know what is a Constitution?
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do you know what is race or not?

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post Jan 11 2019, 07:56 PM

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/31...tesis_dan_Fakta

refer page 10 of the pdf document.

"melanau masuk melayu"

https://sarawakvoice.com/2016/07/29/mencari...ang-di-sarawak/

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post Jan 11 2019, 10:28 PM

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How can Malaysia progress if still stucked at "Race and religions"?

Perhaps its about time for WM to learn from EM how to be "color blind".

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...n-dalam-gereja/

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Jan 11 2019, 10:33 PM
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post Jan 11 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jan 11 2019, 10:28 PM)
How can Malaysia progress if still stucked at "Race and religions"?

Perhaps its about time for WM to learn from EM how to be "color blind".

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...n-dalam-gereja/
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I don't know how long can EM culture sustain.. because slowly I see those extreme views / influences are creeping into EM people...

god bless Sabah & Sarawak notworthy.gif
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post Jan 12 2019, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 11 2019, 10:07 AM)
DAP Socialist Youth (DAPSY). Their name said they are socialist. Or don't know how to read?

Socialist and communist are both left wing whereas capitalist is right wing.
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It's two different thing. Please read. And what's so scary about that?

Najib also did the same thing. Talk back and you are out.

You are really a typical one.
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jan 11 2019, 10:28 PM)
How can Malaysia progress if still stucked at "Race and religions"?

Perhaps its about time for WM to learn from EM how to be "color blind".

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...n-dalam-gereja/
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We need to find answer to these questions :-

1. Why is there a difference between the west and east ?

Just like the case of Christmas celebration, the EM PAS member says we should go and celebrate Xmas together with the Christians, the WM PAS says no, don't do it, it is wrong from Islamic teaching. True enough he is able to cite certain clauses somewhere to justify his point.

2. Is this practice of acceptance of diversity existing in EM going to persist or it will be overwhelmed by world wide trend of increasing anti-diversity interpretation ?





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post Jan 12 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 12 2019, 09:27 AM)
We need to find answer to these questions :-

1. Why is there a difference between the west and east ?

Just like the case of Christmas celebration, the EM PAS member says we should go and celebrate Xmas together with the Christians, the WM PAS says no, don't do it, it is wrong from Islamic teaching. True enough he is able to cite certain clauses somewhere to justify his point.

2. Is this practice of acceptance of diversity existing in EM going to persist or it will be overwhelmed by world wide trend of increasing anti-diversity interpretation ?
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1. If you look at the muslims race in EM you will find thay they are not like WM where the majority is pure malay. In EM for the same race you can find they may not be naturally muslims, for example there are plenty of muslims kadazandusun in keningau, different thing if you move to penampang for example where for the same race the majority is christians. Due to mass mix marriage even those with malay brunei or native such as bajau which are predominantly muslims have also mixed and have family relationship with other races which are not dominantly muslims. So for EM the WM views is not compatible, because severing family ties is a no no.

Same thing with bumiputra status, chinese in EM is not really against this policy due to mix marriage. A WM chinese who marries EM native spouse also can have bumi status children. BUT you must for apply (Mykad,mykid) for it at JPN EM, not at WM. Ppl with chinese blood but having ASB is not uncommon.

2. Local culture not just the ppl. Something that is okayed for Selangor is not necessarily ok for Kelantan.

Since the church is in EM, everyone is silent, imagine if its in WM.

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post Jan 18 2019, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jan 12 2019, 11:57 AM)
1. If you look at the muslims race in EM you will find thay they are not like WM where the majority is pure malay. In EM for the same race you can find they may not be naturally  muslims, for example there are plenty of muslims kadazandusun in  keningau, different thing if you move to penampang for example where for the same race the majority is christians. Due to mass mix marriage even those with malay brunei or native such as bajau which are predominantly muslims have also mixed and have family relationship with other races which are not dominantly muslims. So for EM the WM views is not compatible, because severing family ties is a no no.

Same thing with bumiputra status, chinese in EM is not really against this policy due to mix marriage. A WM chinese who marries EM native spouse also can have bumi status children. BUT you must for apply (Mykad,mykid) for it at JPN EM, not at WM. Ppl with chinese blood but having ASB is not uncommon.

2. Local culture not just the ppl.  Something that is okayed for Selangor is not necessarily ok for Kelantan.

Since the church is in EM, everyone is silent, imagine if its in WM.
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This is what I think. Malaysia mindset was fu*kup by Religion and race which are manipulated by politics for their own gain.
Dont take me wrong. Religion indeed is a good thing but they leverage it to brainwash people.

Hence, people like tourist king was created. If people like him infested Malaysia, Malaysia is a goner.

We will soon send our children to Indonesia, Vietnam, Myanmar to work as maids.
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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 18 2019, 12:43 AM)
This is what I think. Malaysia mindset was fu*kup by Religion and race which are manipulated by politics for their own gain.
Dont take me wrong. Religion indeed is a good thing but they leverage it to brainwash people.

Hence, people like tourist king was created. If people like him infested Malaysia, Malaysia is a goner.

We will soon send our children to Indonesia, Vietnam, Myanmar to work as maids.
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Seams to be the undying traits of political clowns,... 2 words cheap and irresponsible. Brainwashing? worse.. its poisoning the minds of malaysian and more... it spreads like a dieases. turned the rakyat into zombies to serve these bloody masters.

This kind of tricks however fall flat in east malaysia. Perhaps we are "lucky" here due race composition or (persaudaraan antara kaum) which keeps our openness and religious tolerances in check.

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post Jan 19 2019, 02:39 PM

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http://www.bernama.com/state-news/beritabm.php?id=1680476

Fake news batu api... ni kraja si pilak kah atau sipenunggang?
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 11 2019, 10:10 AM)
Article 160 (“Interpretation”) of the Federal Constitution defines the term “Malay” in the following manner:

“Malay” means a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, conforms to Malay custom and [is of Malaysian/Singaporean origin]*.
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The Ultimate political test.
will UMNO/ PAS/ BN accept a Sabahan Melanau, Bajau or suluk malay as the next president of UMNO or prime minister of Malaysia.
If not then why not?
By right, in the past since east Malaysia was a king maker, why did it not get at least a deputy prime minister post?
Actually most Sabahan leaders only want Sabahan in charge of Sabah, just like Sarawak - they don't care what is happening in semenanjung as long as they can rule their kingdom happily.

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QUOTE(drajm @ Jan 21 2019, 09:22 PM)
The Ultimate political test.
will UMNO/ PAS/ BN accept a Sabahan  Melanau, Bajau or suluk malay as the next president of UMNO or prime minister of Malaysia.
If not then why not?
By right, in the past since east Malaysia was a king maker, why did it not get at least a deputy prime minister post?
Actually most Sabahan leaders only want Sabahan in charge of Sabah, just like Sarawak - they don't care what is happening in semenanjung as long as they can rule their kingdom happily.
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I believe he/she would only be used as puppet. mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 17 2019, 05:43 PM)
This is what I think. Malaysia mindset was fu*kup by Religion and race which are manipulated by politics for their own gain.
Dont take me wrong. Religion indeed is a good thing but they leverage it to brainwash people.

Hence, people like tourist king was created. If people like him infested Malaysia, Malaysia is a goner.

We will soon send our children to Indonesia, Vietnam, Myanmar to work as maids.
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You find party in both BN and in PH using race and religion.

In past Sarawak state election, there are people like this one saying because Muslim are a minority in Sarawak, CM must be a non-Muslim.

https://www.mariammokhtar.com/it-is-time-sa...-non-muslim-cm/
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QUOTE(drajm @ Jan 21 2019, 09:22 PM)
The Ultimate political test.
will UMNO/ PAS/ BN accept a Sabahan  Melanau, Bajau or suluk malay as the next president of UMNO or prime minister of Malaysia.
If not then why not?
By right, in the past since east Malaysia was a king maker, why did it not get at least a deputy prime minister post?
Actually most Sabahan leaders only want Sabahan in charge of Sabah, just like Sarawak - they don't care what is happening in semenanjung as long as they can rule their kingdom happily.
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Well that's should be the way..
Sabah & Sarawak get each DPM post..
But what Umno BN did? Pick another Malay from Peninsular Malaysia..

What that say?? They don't give damn about S&S.. Just want votes & the seat for forming the government.. Give some bones @ $$$ all shut up & come licking....

That's why u see after BN loses the power.. All S&S YBs gone... GPS is form in Sarawak officially.. Sabah front is coming soon... All fly off after GE14 whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 25 2019, 01:18 PM)
Well that's should be the way..
Sabah & Sarawak get each DPM post..
But what Umno BN did? Pick another Malay from Peninsular Malaysia..

What that say?? They don't give damn about S&S.. Just want votes & the seat  for forming the government.. Give some bones @ $$$ all shut up & come licking....

That's why u see after BN loses the power.. All S&S YBs gone... GPS is form in Sarawak officially.. Sabah front is coming soon... All fly off after GE14 whistling.gif
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So did PH pick a Malay from Sabah now?

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 26 2019, 11:21 AM)
So did PH pick a Malay from Sabah now?
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Nope.

PH = BN 2.0

so we voted PAS next GE15 ahh rolleyes.gif because they all think about ISLAM & Malay only...

got high chance Malay from S&S to become DPM thumbup.gif

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post Jan 27 2019, 01:32 PM

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If PH doesn't pay Sabah, why support PH?
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Now pay us, Anifah tells Putrajaya after record tax collection

PETALING JAYA: Former foreign minister Anifah Aman today told Putrajaya to pay what is due to Sabah and Sarawak after the federal government collected RM137 billion in direct taxes.

The Kimanis MP said the amount collected would be enough to pay what is owed to the two East Malaysian states in line with what is stipulated under the Malaysia Agreement 1963 (MA63).
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...tax-collection/

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Don't support PH.. Then support who? UMNO+PAS JV? laugh.gif
Sabahan reject extremist especially PAS.... Only choice is Warisan or PBS lead group 🙏 only choice they got...

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