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puchongite
post Jan 5 2019, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 5 2019, 03:53 PM)
You do not understand politic

Anyone who give you benefit is your friend. Doesn't matter whether your friend is called BN or PH or Donald Trump. Since now PH doesn't want to give Sarawak their promised 20% oil royalty and 50% tax revenue, they are no friend to PH. If PH does give, then PH is friend of GPS

Simple.
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So ?

The PH does not need GPS so badly at this juncture.

If GPS people want to come over to PH, they either have to break up from GPS or they defect their parties

No way PH can accept GPS as a whole.
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:52 PM

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The politics in Sabah/Sarawak are so boring these days.

Even if the Sarawak PH wins the next State election, I would think the PH in Sarawak will not be under the complete control of the PH in peninsula.

https://www.malaymail.com/s/1709386/sarawak...ing-cooperation

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post Jan 5 2019, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 5 2019, 03:50 PM)
Melanau who are Muslim are classified as Malay. That is a fact. So Taib who is a Melanau is a Malay.
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So u want Taib become CM again izzit?
Songlap round 2 😕😑😫
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post Jan 5 2019, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 4 2019, 07:03 PM)
DAP have roots in socialism or communism. They often worship their Boss. Think Mao and think North Korea.

Despite their Democratic name, they are actually dictator. Talk back and you are out.
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Communism huh? Where's your proof?

So meaning all chinese are communist coz all from China??


Malaysia Baru need people like you to become Malaysia Lama.
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post Jan 6 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 5 2019, 10:37 PM)
Communism huh? Where's your proof?

So meaning all chinese are communist coz all from China??


Malaysia Baru need people like you to become Malaysia Lama.
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Thanks to Years of brainwashing by previous regime....
Everything related to DAP is bad...
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post Jan 6 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Mar 28 2018, 11:13 AM)
When gomen made them poor and uneducated, what do u expect?

Day by day, gomen kept telling these people to have more kids and in return gave them money for daily essentials. As a result, these people ended up lazy and work menial jobs. Reason because, the low pay is enough for them to be happy. The cycle repeats itself for next generation.

Which is why education is important. It should be free for all. Now only from from primary to secondary. University need to pay hefty sum.

When people are uneducated, politicians will take advantage and spread fear to all. Surely, these people won't want to lose their subsidies or welfare monies and vote back the same useless gomen.
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To those jungle dwelling, tree sap sucking buffoons, their bn Gods come every 5 years give their penghulu 1 carton cigarettes, some cash is enough for them to blindly vote back for bn
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post Jan 6 2019, 10:20 AM

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Still talking about BN in Sarawak. LOL.

That's history.

There are only PH and GPS and their respective component parties.

What does BN in Sarawak mean ? LOL.
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post Jan 6 2019, 10:32 AM

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We have nice people and rich natural resources but NAIVE. That was the reason BN was always voted in.
The Natives were naive at first, because being a bumiputra, they think everything belongs to them, just like Sarawak.
They were poorly educated and every election, the politicans would bring alcohol, give parties and ceramah and give small token like, rice etc and they would elect these same people.
See the same pattern in Semenanjung (minus the alcohol)
When UMNO was setup in Sabah, the natives finally realised that they were second class bumi.
Big contracts handed out but to semenanjung cronies and the CM.
The natives of Sabah are much better educated now, which is sad to say not the same in Sarawak.

And what most here do not realise was the one of first of the fixed deposit BN strongholds in Sabah fell 2 elections ago.
So the natives started their revolt that many years ago, not because they love PKR or DAP but they want UMNO out.

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 6 2019, 09:35 AM)
To those jungle dwelling, tree sap sucking buffoons, their bn Gods come every 5 years give their penghulu 1 carton cigarettes, some cash is enough for them to blindly vote back for bn
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Same thing happen in Peninsular Malaysia too..
Especially those areas with high Orang Asli voters... Just look at Cameron Highlands... One reason why BN win is canceled because of bribing the voters especially orang asli...

Now end of the month is by election... Let's see how without power & limited $$$.. BN could go the by election.... Can be case study for future reference 🙏
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 6 2019, 08:38 AM)
Thanks to Years of brainwashing by previous regime....
Everything related to DAP is bad...
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Well, using religion and believes to brainwash people is so damn cheap. The previous regime did well brain washing many of our previous generation.

In fact, I dont care whoever lead this country. But as long that person is smarter than all of us and fit to do their job to lead us instead of bringing us back to the jungle.

Many complains PH after they win, so who else you will choose in the next election? Definitely BN is dead by then, So PAS??

PAS is all about religion. IMO, Religion should not brought into politics. Religion is religion, politics is politics.
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 5 2019, 03:00 PM)
In the federal constitution, anyone who is a Muslim, speak Malay and live a Malay lifestyle is a Malay. Therefore those Melanau who are Muslim are classified as Malay.
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Wow. Very interesting idea. I think you are confused with Religion and race. Let's go back to primary school.

Muslim is a religion.

Malay is a Race.

Malaysia is a country with all race. I like to highlight to you that Malaysia is not for only Malay.



If you insist that Melanau who are Muslim are clasified Malay, then a chinese muslim will be a Malay and Malay have right of bumiputera. By then people like you will shout.

Wait!!!

What about if a Jewish became Muslim? I wonder........Ermm...yah, He became a Malay.

bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

My brain fried oledi.

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post Jan 6 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 02:52 PM)
Well, using religion and believes to brainwash people is so damn cheap. The previous regime did well brain washing many of our previous generation.

In fact, I dont care whoever lead this country. But as long that person is smarter than all of us and fit to do their job to lead us instead of bringing us back to the jungle.

Many complains PH after they win, so who else you will choose in the next election? Definitely BN is dead by then, So PAS??

PAS is all about religion. IMO, Religion should not brought into politics. Religion is religion, politics is politics.
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This is secular thinking. The PAS and 'Islamic State' supporters' thinking are that, Islam contains everything that is needed to govern a country.
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post Jan 6 2019, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 02:52 PM)
Well, using religion and believes to brainwash people is so damn cheap. The previous regime did well brain washing many of our previous generation.

In fact, I dont care whoever lead this country. But as long that person is smarter than all of us and fit to do their job to lead us instead of bringing us back to the jungle.

Many complains PH after they win, so who else you will choose in the next election? Definitely BN is dead by then, So PAS??

PAS is all about religion. IMO, Religion should not brought into politics. Religion is religion, politics is politics.
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actually those who complained is the group that lost most of their privilege to contracts & $$$... every since BN lost.. their coffers dried up already... So they trying their best to make PH bad.. so they can somehow back to power within years even before GE15.. that's the evil plan...

don't underestimate PAS... their influence is still substantial especially those Super Malay Majority state like in East Cost & Northern Peninsular Malaysia.. BN losses is PAS gains... religion & politics mix together become big cancer for the country vmad.gif puke.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 6 2019, 03:33 PM)
This is secular thinking. The PAS and 'Islamic State' supporters' thinking are that, Islam contains everything that is needed to govern a country.
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I some what agree. It about governt the country and not politics. Anyway, It's not suitable in this country. Im not anti Islam. I hope not misunderstood.
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post Jan 6 2019, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 6 2019, 03:36 PM)
actually those who complained is the group that lost most of their privilege to contracts & $$$... every since BN lost.. their coffers dried up already... So they trying their best to make PH bad.. so they can somehow back to power within years even before GE15.. that's the evil plan...

don't underestimate PAS... their influence is still substantial especially those Super Malay Majority state like in East Cost & Northern Peninsular Malaysia.. BN losses is PAS gains... religion & politics mix together become big cancer for the country  vmad.gif  puke.gif
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Yup. PAS will be the strongest opposition. I hope GPS will someone overtake PAS in some way. At least they are better in some way. Yup, they are Ex BN and very much different compare to UMNO.
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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 11:25 PM)
I some what agree. It about governt the country and not politics. Anyway, It's not suitable in this country. Im not anti Islam. I hope not misunderstood.
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The way to fight theocracy is to prove to the believers of theocracy that theocracy is a dead end. Statistically proven, world wide.

1. Countries with higher religiosity are poorer.

2. Countries with higher religiosity are higher in corruption.

3. Countries with higher religiosity are more backward.

4. Secularism always leads before economic development. That is, before the country improves its economy, the people's secular mentality improves first.

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 11:27 PM)
Yup. PAS will be the strongest opposition. I hope GPS will someone overtake PAS in some way. At least they are better in some way. Yup, they are Ex BN and very much different compare to UMNO.
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Hmm..
First thing first..
Sack white hair first... The first step of being clean...
So much case yet no action taken.. So many report lodged to MACC, police etc.

Then GPS can become good alternative to PAS 🙏
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 7 2019, 11:48 AM)
Hmm..
First thing first..
Sack white hair first... The first step of being clean...
So much case yet no action taken.. So many report lodged to MACC, police etc.

Then GPS can become good alternative to PAS 🙏
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Well, Its not easy. Sacking that white emperor is not an easy task. By the time you can sack him, he's already End of Life. laugh.gif

Truely, GPS aka ex Sarawak BN has many corruption happening behind in the woods etc etc that never been discovered before.

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post Jan 11 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 5 2019, 03:37 PM)
Communism huh? Where's your proof?

So meaning all chinese are communist coz all from China??


Malaysia Baru need people like you to become Malaysia Lama.
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DAP Socialist Youth (DAPSY). Their name said they are socialist. Or don't know how to read?

Socialist and communist are both left wing whereas capitalist is right wing.



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post Jan 11 2019, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jan 6 2019, 07:57 AM)
Wow. Very interesting idea. I think you are confused with Religion and race. Let's go back to primary school.

Muslim is a religion.

Malay is a Race.

Malaysia is a country with all race. I like to highlight to you that Malaysia is not for only Malay.
If you insist that Melanau who are Muslim are clasified Malay, then a chinese muslim will be a Malay and Malay have right of bumiputera. By then people like you will shout.

Wait!!!

What about if a Jewish became Muslim? I wonder........Ermm...yah, He became a Malay. 

bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

My brain fried oledi.
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Article 160 (“Interpretation”) of the Federal Constitution defines the term “Malay” in the following manner:

“Malay” means a person who professes the religion of Islam, habitually speaks the Malay language, conforms to Malay custom and [is of Malaysian/Singaporean origin]*.

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