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post Mar 17 2022, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(cawan @ Mar 17 2022, 05:02 PM)
guys, ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3050 OC at Rm25xx pricing.

come discuss. price over performance.
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Just got RTX3060 at 2498.
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3050 at that price is just daylight robbery. shakehead.gif
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post Mar 17 2022, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 17 2022, 09:05 PM)
I got my friend Colorful RTX 3070 Advanced OC at RM2699 on Nov 2020. Any GPU still daylight robbery today.
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Not even a chance for 3050/3060 get to SRP, perhaps 2 or 3 months from now. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2022, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 17 2022, 10:03 PM)
Let's hope Intel is smart enough to try gaining market share instead profiteering. That will crash the prices.
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Not so soon, their driver is still in infancy. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(gacktleong @ Mar 18 2022, 09:27 AM)
there are many threads in reddit reported bad temp
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The GDDR6X is a real heating wire, can easily consume 100W.
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post Jun 5 2025, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jun 5 2025, 09:19 PM)
NVIDIA reportedly preparing GeForce RTX 5050 desktop GPU for July release
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reported...or-july-release

don like 5060? nvidia give more option 5050
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5060/Ti 8GB will have hard time with 9060XT 8GB/16GB.
5050? 199 USD please. icon_idea.gif Looks decent to replace the aged 3050.

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post Jun 6 2025, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 6 2025, 08:26 AM)
I 50/50 predict 5050 will come in at $249/250 unless Nvidia has plan for a 5050TI which in case it will probably drop to 220/230 (the TI will slot at 270/280).
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AMD could just make a 96bit 12GB 9060 GRE at $249 and it performs like a 5060. brows.gif
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post Jun 6 2025, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 6 2025, 09:21 AM)
A 96bit mem bus would kill all reason to have a bigger VRAM. Its similar back in the days where 64bit GPU has huge 512MB VRAM but still loses to 128bit GPU with smaller 256MB but faster VRAM.
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That is not a general rule. AMD's design has less dependent on RAM bandwidth and you have already seen it the current 9060/9070. It is achieved through better precomputation pruning and compression.

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If you shift to the LLM scene, larger memory still has the advantage of loading entire network layers into the GPU. Lower bandwidth only causes the inference to run slower, but still way faster than having some of the layers handled by CPU. Well in this scenario, 5060 Ti 16GB is actually quite a lot faster than 9060 XT 16GB with it's GDDR7. Games are just simply having more well-known, opportunistic & human perception-based optimizations than the brute forcing in AI.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 6 2025, 02:03 PM)
Actually its the opposite where Radeons are more affected by mem architecture. Heres what TPU Wiz has to say: "Historically, it has also been the case that AMD's memory management isn't as good as NVIDIA's, which probably means that the 8 GB 9060 XT will have a harder time dealing with memory shortages than NVIDIA's card."
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Nope, it is not about 8GB or 16GB. It is relative comparison of 9060XT vs 5060 Ti. wink.gif

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 6 2025, 02:07 PM)
And as for using consumer grade GPU for AI... I would say that I will condemn such practices as much as using GPU for mining. Both incidents which had shortages in gaming GPU and hiking skyhigh prices. I curse those crypto bros and now AI bros.
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Consumer card is not for AI bros. They opt for used workstation cards instead for way larger amount of memory. wink.gif The richer one will too opt for new workstation cards. The issue is NVIDIA's chip allocation strategy on consumer vs workstation since both share the same chip. NVIDIA earns way more from selling workstation cards.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 6 2025, 06:01 PM)
Its what Wiz is talking about, between 8GB 9060XT and 5060TI, the memory limitations (VRAM size, bus width, PCIE speed) will hit that Radeon harder compared to Geforce. You can only strangle so much the bandwith just to cram in as much VRAM that it becomes detrimental instead. Bus width shouldnt g below 128bit (much like cutting PCIE lanes too).
4090 and 5090 are consumer cards yet go figure why are they constantly in shortage and where they actually end up. Even 3090TI in 2nd hand market are getting hot for that particular reason. I hate jerkwads that buys up these GPUS for other purpose than gaming.
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12GB will effectively offset that data exchange issue. wink.gif 4090/5090 is more like NVIDIA prefers to have the chip sold in RTX ADA / Pro series to enterprises than consumer line. There are other used older workstation cards like Quadro RTX6000, RTX8000 cost a lot cheaper than 4090/5090 in terms of GB/$. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Jun 17 2025, 05:58 AM)
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https://www.slashgear.com/1878188/nvidia-rt...d-which-better/

Rtx 4090 vs Rtx 5080
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4090 is still the way to go. sweat.gif

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jun 17 2025, 08:04 PM)
IINM TristanX found an Intel B580 at RM1.1K - which pretty much invalidates this card considering the larger VRAM pool sweat.gif
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1.1K is with Shopee discount, original price was 1269, but still a nice price nevertheless.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 18 2025, 01:16 PM)
Even prediscount its still a very good price dy since 5060 is starting at RM 1500. Only problem is its not suitable for older systems thats on Gen3, no Rebar and with CPU overhead.
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5060 will still be bottlenecked by PCI-E 3.0 due to tons of data swapping between RAM/VRAM happening. puke.gif

 

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