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lol. 3080ti. i can confirm with ya. it wong beat 3090

infact its gonna loose badly to 3080 nonref like tuf oc.

a 3080 strix gonna cost almost same as a tuf 3090.

the card power limited just like 3090. 480w bios needed

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Nov 26 2020, 01:50 PM)
I got genshin running on 1440p max everything also supersampled, it still doesnt look better than that on a 4k TV running everything high and off AA  icon_idea.gif

time for another leap bro haha
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nah I'll stay with 1440p until my monitor kaput. 4K also i need to get used to because even surfing web on 1440p screen, I only use like 50-75% width for the browser cos it's too long for me ady.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2020, 02:18 PM)
lol. 3080ti. i can confirm with ya. it wong beat 3090

infact its gonna loose badly to 3080 nonref like tuf oc.

a 3080 strix gonna cost almost same as a tuf 3090.

the card power limited just like 3090. 480w bios needed
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Another RTX 3000 series restock. now can get it at Sawada.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2020, 02:18 PM)
lol. 3080ti. i can confirm with ya. it wong beat 3090

infact its gonna loose badly to 3080 nonref like tuf oc.

a 3080 strix gonna cost almost same as a tuf 3090.

the card power limited just like 3090. 480w bios needed
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they need to get the process node improved to get the clocks higher and lower power consumption, 3080 basically very little headroom to oc also. 3080ti will just promote more vram thats all mega_shok.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2020, 02:18 PM)
lol. 3080ti. i can confirm with ya. it wong beat 3090

infact its gonna loose badly to 3080 nonref like tuf oc.

a 3080 strix gonna cost almost same as a tuf 3090.

the card power limited just like 3090. 480w bios needed
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3080 strix is 4699
tuf 3090 is 7K ++

also 3080ti if come out, why will lose to 3080? I thought difference is ti got 20gb vram by rumors? other things remain like 3080?
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respect those who pay close to 5k for 3080
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 26 2020, 03:41 PM)
3080 strix is 4699
tuf 3090 is 7K ++

also 3080ti if come out, why will lose to 3080? I thought difference is ti got 20gb vram by rumors? other things remain like 3080?
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i think he typo meant to be 3090 non ref.

but yeah memang expect it to slot between 3080 and 3090. And if a nonref 3080Ti with 450w bios comes.. then that will be the real deal altho will be priced very close to a ref 3090... similar to a 3070 strix vs 3080.

.. And we will eventually need alot of vram one day thanks to rdna2 and more console port over games in the future.

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 26 2020, 03:58 PM)
i think he typo meant to be 3090 non ref.

but yeah memang expect it to slot between 3080 and 3090. And if a nonref 3080Ti with 450w bios comes.. then that will be the real deal altho will be priced very close to a ref 3090... similar to a 3070 strix vs 3080.

.. And we will eventually need alot of vram one day thanks to rdna2 and more console port over games in the future.
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Yes, VRAM usage jump usually follows the console release. When PS3 released, then PS4 and now PS5.

But if the VRAM isn't enough, just lower down texture size should be alright. Texture difference is something more visible on 4K than lower resolutions

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 26 2020, 03:58 PM)
i think he typo meant to be 3090 non ref.

but yeah memang expect it to slot between 3080 and 3090. And if a nonref 3080Ti with 450w bios comes.. then that will be the real deal altho will be priced very close to a ref 3090... similar to a 3070 strix vs 3080.

.. And we will eventually need alot of vram one day thanks to rdna2 and more console port over games in the future.
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U never know they might just go ahead and launch a super series and discontinue the current line ahead of time to get back the crown. But tsmc and current virus situation i think they will just leave it be for now since 3080 doesnt actually lose to 6800xt in much games.
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 26 2020, 03:58 PM)
i think he typo meant to be 3090 non ref.

but yeah memang expect it to slot between 3080 and 3090. And if a nonref 3080Ti with 450w bios comes.. then that will be the real deal altho will be priced very close to a ref 3090... similar to a 3070 strix vs 3080.

.. And we will eventually need alot of vram one day thanks to rdna2 and more console port over games in the future.
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the thing is I find it hard to justify buying 3090 just for 'vram future proof' when its ray tracing technology in infancy stage.

Same like anti aliasing last time...better 3080 now for 1440p/4k and then once ray tracing mature and become a luxury that dont gimp performance then new gen 5080/6080 in years time.
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Haha expensive 3070 vs cheap 3080, then 3080 vs 3080ti and 3080ti vs 3090.

But the closest one would actually be 3060ti vs 3070, just 100USD difference, so imagine bigger card 3060ti vs cheapest 3070, like how? lol
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 26 2020, 03:02 PM)
they need to get the process node improved to get the clocks higher and lower power consumption, 3080 basically very little headroom to oc also. 3080ti will just promote more vram thats all  mega_shok.gif
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everytime node improve its a challenge to cool the component.. look at amd zen2, zen 3.......so going smaller aint always a good thing unless its yield on cuda to cuda performance increase... example 1 instruction cycle of whatever after ampere is 1.5x more than ampere..

ampere is a culmination of everything not a totally new thing
same thing with rdna 2 and even zen 3...


QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 26 2020, 03:41 PM)
3080 strix is 4699
tuf 3090 is 7K ++

also 3080ti if come out, why will lose to 3080? I thought difference is ti got 20gb vram by rumors? other things remain like 3080?
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thats why.. what we need is a 3080 super.. give us 3080 with more vram

not a nerfed 3090 that is impossible to cool and requires a lot of power.. aka 3080ti...

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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Nov 26 2020, 04:10 PM)
U never know they might just go ahead and launch a super series and discontinue the current line ahead of time to get back the crown. But tsmc and current virus situation i think they will just leave it be for now since 3080 doesnt actually lose to 6800xt in much games.
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And the both amd and nvidia stock issue is not even resolved yet laugh.gif

QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 26 2020, 04:14 PM)
the thing is I find it hard to justify buying 3090 just for 'vram future proof' when its ray tracing technology in infancy stage.

Same like anti aliasing last time...better 3080 now for 1440p/4k and then once ray tracing mature and become a luxury that dont gimp performance then new gen 5080/6080 in years time.
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That’s why I settled with a 3080 also.. for now ...cuz 3090 is just too much. While a 4.7K-6K 3080Ti will be the sweet spot. Afterall the msrp is already announced at USD 999. Im most likely getting it when I get a job.

And i really feel 3080’s 10GB wont age well with this next gen console situation.
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 26 2020, 04:14 PM)
the thing is I find it hard to justify buying 3090 just for 'vram future proof' when its ray tracing technology in infancy stage.

Same like anti aliasing last time...better 3080 now for 1440p/4k and then once ray tracing mature and become a luxury that dont gimp performance then new gen 5080/6080 in years time.
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3090 aint about future proofing

think of like this

got a friend who choosed 3090.
here is what he said and not only him ya
he games at 4k.. been doing that since 980ti...

all disappoiinting..

so now the BEST card that can DELIVER the highest frame rate is the 3090.
if there was a titan rtx during turing.. he would have bought it.. if it was sold in malaysia.. but no.

so 3090 aka strix, ftw3 ultra.. beats the 3080 oced easy.. cause 480/500w bios...

so how.. wait for 2 years.. nope.. his income no issue if u think of 3090-3080 = the difference divide by 24 month.. it negligible amount...


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 26 2020, 04:31 PM)
3090 aint about future proofing

think of like this

got a friend who choosed 3090.
here is what he said and not only him ya
he games at 4k.. been doing that since 980ti...

all disappoiinting..

so now the BEST card that can DELIVER the highest frame rate is the 3090.
if there was a titan rtx during turing.. he would have bought it.. if it was sold in malaysia.. but no.

so 3090 aka strix, ftw3 ultra.. beats the 3080 oced easy.. cause 480/500w bios...

so how.. wait for 2 years.. nope.. his income no issue if u think of 3090-3080 = the difference divide by 24 month.. it negligible amount...
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the irony of people who buys flagship cards like 3090 are the people who upgrades to every gen’s flagship when it launches. Futureproofing doesnt apply to them rclxms.gif

Anyways dunno if it’s me only or there’s more.. the meaning of futureproofing is like gone with tech. Manufacturers always devise a way to make what we have somewhat obolete when they launch a new line. Forcing us to upgrade.

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 26 2020, 04:36 PM)
the irony of people who buys flagship cards like 3090 are the people who upgrades to every gen’s flagship when it launches. Futureproofing doesnt apply to them rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 26 2020, 04:36 PM)
the irony of people who buys flagship cards like 3090 are the people who upgrades to every gen’s flagship when it launches. Futureproofing doesnt apply to them rclxms.gif
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they start high.. so have to change gpu to chase..

its no diff than last time when ppl went 2560x1600 and later 16:9 2560x1440....
it was only when rtx 2080ti that 1440p maxed out became a reality.. and now theres new features that made that even take a step back..
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QUOTE(oldKyoo @ Nov 26 2020, 04:44 PM)
I generally view my purchases for tech products as a full write-off every year.
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I’m guilty of that as well.. Everyear sure upgrade something...And you know what’s the irony? My rig confirm will be the most silent rig here.. because it’s not even turned on laugh.gif
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wow in fortnite 160 fps dropped to less than 20fps just by using max rtx quality settings without DLSS, DLSS balanced boosted it to 50fps+ and performance boosted it to around 70fps.

How can AMD compete without DLSS?

 

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