Considering it's practically vaporware elsewhere, I seriously don't think you can buy one at that pricing soon

Yes, but even without high res textures 8GB VRAM is just not good enough, even at 1080p:
https://videocardz.com/newz/pcgh-demonstrat...enough-for-2025

That's actually not a bad price though

...or the fact that the negative reviews of the card did force a price drop in some ways or another

Link to the 5070?


This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 17 2025, 11:16 PM

It says RM2977 when I followed the link?

Yeah, that's actually a good price though
Although I find it strange there is a huge price gap between the 5070 and the 5070 Ti

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 18 2025, 08:46 AM

Possible launch of 5070 Super?

Unplayable? No, but you will end up making lots of concessions in terms of visuals because of the limited VRAM - even one of your screenshots already proved that, with future titles may make things even worse
Seriously, 8GB VRAM doesn't really belong to any modern GPUs these days outside of being an eSports card, and even if they do they'll have to priced and name them correctly which both AMD and Nvidia failed

There's also the pricing problem too - at USD379 for the 8GB model it's just plain awful, especially it's effectively a 50 series card being marketed as a 60 card (see Gamers Nexus on GPU shrinkflation)

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 18 2025, 07:13 PM

Did you even look at current GPU prices? The 5070 Ti costs basically RM1.5K+ over the 9070 XT right now, with the 9070 XT performing quite close to it outside of RT
The 5070 is certainly better of course, but do you want to pay RM2.5K for effectively a 4070 Super with the potential problems of running out of VRAM for future games? Those are not cheap cards mind you

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 18 2025, 07:15 PM

Which AIB?

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 18 2025, 07:18 PM

Not bad... slightly worried about the 12VHPWR situation though

Come back in 2-3 years then

? I really doubt AMD is responsible for the street pricing here


You can already get one at RM3499 (possibly even cheaper on brick and mortar shops), which is slightly more than what you mentioned

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 18 2025, 10:41 PM

Even 12GB is hanging by a thread on modern games if you intend to use upscaling/frame gen + RT/PT
8GB VRAM is just not enough for games especially when 1440p is now the new 1080p, unless you're talking about eSports titles (which again none of the 8GB cards right now are priced right)

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: May 24 2025, 01:07 PM

That's because starting from the 4000 series Nvidia has been trying to doing shrinkflation on GPU die sizes (outside their x90 cards), presumably to lower costs of production and keeping prices high
The 80/70/60 series GPU sizes on 5000/4000 cards are much smaller than what you get in the past

It also explains why Nvidia is pushing DLSS/frame gen hard, using it as a 'crutch' to inflate the actual performance of the GPU

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jun 1 2025, 09:09 AM

IINM TristanX found an Intel B580 at RM1.1K - which pretty much invalidates this card considering the larger VRAM pool

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jun 17 2025, 08:05 PM

That's a good price, I got my Palit 5070 Ti from TMT at RM3799 last Sunday

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jun 17 2025, 08:08 PM

To made matters worse you can already buy an ASRock 9060 XT 16GB for RM1.6K, completely invalidating the point of those 8GB cards

If you have watched Hardware Unboxed analysis on 8GB cards, the texture difference is significant compared to 12/16GB cards, not to mention you'll have to deal with game stuttering due to constant swapping between VRAM and system memory
Those are huge, and often unacceptable compromises in PC gaming IMHO
Arc may be a mess on older systems but at least they got the hardware side of things right - and Intel is indeed working on their drivers quite diligently
Of course if you are willing to up your budget you can already get a 9060 XT 16GB for around the same price as the 5060

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jun 19 2025, 06:29 AM

Even if you can ignore the VRAM problem, the biggest issue with the 5050 is that this card has largely deviated from the original design principles of x50 cards, i.e. power efficient and SFF friendly. Those qualities are particularly useful for things like upgrading PCs with proprietary components or building ultra small form factor builds, and yet this thing is less efficient than a 4060

If they had stuck with the original idea of being a slot powered (<=75W) card for SFF builds, it might have reviewed more favorably

The USD249 price tag? That's terrible when you consider that you can buy a 9060 XT 16GB for ~42% the price premium, and yes, while that price premium is a tough pill to swallow it's hard not to acknowledge the fact that the Radeon card is nearly 80% faster than that card:
https://youtu.be/B93XAEHlGvI?t=773

Heck even an Intel B580 is better, despite the somewhat dodgy availability and driver problems

Not to mention the Radeon offers much better 1% lows and better resale value in the future, as 8GB VRAM is increasingly untenable in the era of modern PC gaming

While it's true, bear in mind that even if a game can run properly on 8GB VRAM there's always some kind of compromises like texture pop-ins, stutters and reduced texture quality, which can negatively impact the visual performance of the game itself. This is already proven by the likes of Hardware Unboxed/PCGH

Yes, that's true, but do note that the RX9000 series are starting to drop quite quickly too - a 9070 can now be had for under RM3K, and quite a few 9070 XTs are starting to approach the RM3K mark
There used to be a RX9060XT 16GB that retailed for RM1.5K, but too bad offer has expired
Still somewhat overpriced but is definitely much better compared to what we had a few months ago