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Which tint has better value for money for heat rejection?
 
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TSRisingTide
post Mar 16 2018, 06:10 PM, updated 2y ago

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I've narrowed down my search for tints for my car down to 2 brands;
3M and Huper Optik are my preferred choices; however 3M is roughly 30% more expensive than Huper Optik, and has better heat rejection than Huper Optik; about 6-8% better;

My main preference is towards better heat rejection and lower performance degradation over time;
GPS and Smartag compatible;
JPJ approved;

3M Configuration:
Front Windshield: Crystalline 70
Front Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Windshield: Crystalline 50

Huper Optik Configuration:
Front Windshield: Ceramic 70
Front Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Windshield: Ceramic 50

Which one do you think is more value for money in terms of heat rejection?
Would it be worth it to fork out and go all out for the 3M?
Or Huper Optik would be sufficient enough?

Or.. any sifu here could recommend a different brand with comparable performance and at a much lower price?

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post Mar 16 2018, 06:20 PM

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Started with huper optik since 3 cars ago and have not looked back since. All my cars now with ho , no regrets..
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post Mar 16 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(ceras @ Mar 16 2018, 06:20 PM)
Started with huper optik since 3  cars ago and have not looked back since. All my cars  now with ho , no regrets..
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How is your HO tint performance after 3 years?
Car is still cool under our hot malaysian weather?
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post Mar 16 2018, 06:30 PM

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TS, why the need to start another thread where there are plenty of them in this forum?
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post Mar 16 2018, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 06:29 PM)
How is your HO tint performance after 3 years?
Car is still cool under our hot malaysian weather?
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3 cars ago. Not 3 years.... In fact more than 3 years.... 6 years to be exact. No detectable loss in performance as the dye does not fade. That’s why I stick with ho for my subsequent cars.
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post Mar 16 2018, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 16 2018, 06:30 PM)
TS, why the need to start another thread  where there are plenty of them in this forum?
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I've already went through around the forum and narrowed down to 2 brands;
now I need is some personal opinions from owners who had tried those 2 brands smile.gif
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post Mar 16 2018, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 06:44 PM)
I've already went through around the forum and narrowed down to 2 brands;
now I need is some personal opinions from owners who had tried those 2 brands  smile.gif
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HO C 40 all round ! Better than my previous vkool V 40! But Vkool heat rejection more geng! Downside is I need to,wind down window to activate my autogate! As for value for money , some said vkool 40 now almost rm 4-5k is value for money ! I said its value but not for my money ! laugh.gif
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post Mar 16 2018, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 16 2018, 06:51 PM)
HO C 40 all round ! Better than my previous vkool V 40! But Vkool heat rejection more geng! Downside is I need to,wind down window to activate my autogate! As for value for money , some said vkool 40 now almost rm 4-5k is value for money ! I said its value but not for my money ! laugh.gif
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Nice! Sounds like HO works out well for you;
Mind sharing where and how much did you had your car tinted with HO? In KL? The Sungai Besi branch?

This post has been edited by RisingTide: Mar 16 2018, 07:23 PM
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post Mar 17 2018, 12:49 AM

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I can vouch for ho as well. A very happy user. My last experience with another brand was very dissapointing.

Like others I won't go for other brand anymore. Doesn't pay to be adventoruous. Wasted 3k on a so called branded tint based on paper spec.




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post Mar 17 2018, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 07:22 PM)
Nice! Sounds like HO works out well for you;
Mind sharing where and how much did you had your car tinted with HO? In KL? The Sungai Besi branch?
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I stay in Kl but I am a jb Lang so I drove bk to have it done in jb! laugh.gif if I can recalled , I got it tinted for 1.6 k? of course, mine was a special price! Lol! If not around 2k ! My previous vkool 40 was around 2.8 k all round! But workmanship is very critical when comes to tinting !
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post Mar 19 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 17 2018, 02:16 PM)
I stay in  Kl  but I am a jb Lang so I drove bk to have it done in jb! laugh.gif  if I can recalled , I got it tinted for 1.6 k? of course,  mine was a special price! Lol! If not around 2k ! My previous vkool 40 was around 2.8 k all round! But workmanship is very critical when comes to tinting !
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Bro, mind share how you managed to get until so cheap la.. i'm also comparing but so far i got quote for 3M with the following spec Cry50 front/back (noncompliance) and side windows CryScotchShield 40 around 2.xK

HO mosly i been quote with more than 2.6k above. so wonderinf we can go in a large group to buy perhaps a win win solution for both smile.gif

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post Mar 19 2018, 01:45 PM

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cheap things no good, good things no cheap.

Been using 3M CR for all my cars due to staff pricing, else too costly to get.
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post Mar 19 2018, 01:58 PM

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3M is good, but the pricing itself just doesnt justify if compare to HO.
HO is more value for money
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 06:10 PM)
I've narrowed down my search for tints for my car down to 2 brands;
3M and Huper Optik are my preferred choices; however 3M is roughly 30% more expensive than Huper Optik, and has better heat rejection than Huper Optik; about 6-8% better;

My main preference is towards better heat rejection and lower performance degradation over time;
GPS and Smartag compatible;
JPJ approved;

3M Configuration:
Front Windshield: Crystalline 70
Front Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Windshield: Crystalline 50

Huper Optik Configuration:
Front Windshield: Ceramic 70
Front Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Windshield: Ceramic 50

Which one do you think is more value for money in terms of heat rejection?
Would it be worth it to fork out and go all out for the 3M?
Or Huper Optik would be sufficient enough?

Or.. any sifu here could recommend a different brand with comparable performance and at a much lower price?
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Both tinted film brand I installed to my car before, one was installed on vios and another kia forte. crystalline in fact still reject heat better. I know a 3m films owner offered me good price and i am very satisfied with his workmanship also. If you need his contact, can pm me
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post Mar 22 2018, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(kevin20916 @ Mar 22 2018, 10:18 PM)
Both tinted film brand I installed to my car before, one was installed on vios and another kia forte. crystalline in fact still reject heat better. I know a 3m films owner offered me good price and i am very satisfied with his workmanship also. If you need his contact, can pm me
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post Mar 23 2018, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(kevin20916 @ Mar 22 2018, 10:18 PM)
Both tinted film brand I installed to my car before, one was installed on vios and another kia forte. crystalline in fact still reject heat better. I know a 3m films owner offered me good price and i am very satisfied with his workmanship also. If you need his contact, can pm me
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Nothing can beat the vkool v40 in heat rejection ! Crystalline is Infact only an entry level quality !
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post Mar 23 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 23 2018, 12:05 AM)
Nothing can beat the vkool v40 in heat rejection ! Crystalline is Infact only an entry level quality !
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I've got an old car with v-kool; came together when I got it; the tint is still damn good even after 10 years;
but... v-kool's pricing is waaaay above my budget.
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post Mar 23 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 23 2018, 11:38 AM)
I've got an old car with v-kool; came together when I got it; the tint is still damn good even after 10 years;
but... v-kool's pricing is waaaay above my budget.
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Ya bro.....vkool 's pricing is getting out of hand ! HO is a good replacement for vk in my opinion!
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post Mar 25 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 23 2018, 12:05 AM)
Nothing can beat the vkool v40 in heat rejection ! Crystalline is Infact only an entry level quality !
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Really? Based on some numbers I saw on the other tint thread 3M Crystalline may be better than Vkool 40.
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post Mar 25 2018, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 16 2018, 06:51 PM)
HO C 40 all round ! Better than my previous vkool V 40! But Vkool heat rejection more geng! Downside is I need to,wind down window to activate my autogate! As for value for money , some said vkool 40 now almost rm 4-5k is value for money ! I said its value but not for my money ! laugh.gif
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In what way is HO C40 better than your vkool 40? Because you said "But Vkool heat rejection more geng".
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QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 25 2018, 12:28 PM)
Really? Based on some numbers I saw on the other tint thread 3M Crystalline may be better than Vkool 40.
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Crystalline is clear coat rite? V 40 is dark tint! I compared and experienced both before! Anyway, that was my experience , you can have yours! Some also say rm 300 tint is better than all these branded one! laugh.gif

QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 25 2018, 12:40 PM)
In what way is HO C40 better than your vkool 40? Because you said "But Vkool heat rejection more geng".
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Value for money! Heat rejection definetly is v40 Keng but the price is so much higher than HO C40!
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Mar 25 2018, 12:46 PM)
Crystalline is clear coat rite?
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Clear coat?

3M Crystalline is not a coating but a tint film. Darkness depends on which film you choose, if you want dark then go for Crystalline 40 (which would be similar darkness to HO C40 and vkool 40).
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post Mar 25 2018, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 25 2018, 02:00 PM)
Clear coat?

3M Crystalline is not a coating but a tint film. Darkness depends on which film you choose, if you want dark then go for Crystalline 40 (which would be similar darkness to HO C40 and vkool 40).
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Ho c40 is not as dark,as v40!
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post Mar 25 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 06:10 PM)
I've narrowed down my search for tints for my car down to 2 brands;
3M and Huper Optik are my preferred choices; however 3M is roughly 30% more expensive than Huper Optik, and has better heat rejection than Huper Optik; about 6-8% better;

My main preference is towards better heat rejection and lower performance degradation over time;
GPS and Smartag compatible;
JPJ approved;

3M Configuration:
Front Windshield: Crystalline 70
Front Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Windshield: Crystalline 50

Huper Optik Configuration:
Front Windshield: Ceramic 70
Front Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Windshield: Ceramic 50

Which one do you think is more value for money in terms of heat rejection?
Would it be worth it to fork out and go all out for the 3M?
Or Huper Optik would be sufficient enough?

Or.. any sifu here could recommend a different brand with comparable performance and at a much lower price?
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My car was tinted with Huper Optik on the following combination 5 years ago:-
Front Windshield: Sech 60 (slightly better performance than Ceramic 70)
Front Side Door: Ceramic 40 (C40)
Rear Side Door: Ceramic 40 (C40)
Rear Windshield: Ceramic 40 (C40)

I find the car to be still quite hot when under the hot sun even with C40. Hence, if you go with C50 your car will surely be a lot hotter. Personally I don't recommend C50 for all side and rear windscreens. You won't get into trouble with C40 even though the VLT is slightly below 50% VLT as the shade is still not too dark. As a matter of fact, with the latest JPJ regulations, I would recommend that you go with C30 with the rear sides and rear windscreens as C40 also is not really that cool. C30's VLT should be around 30% so it should be borderline acceptable. Although the C30's tint is rather dark in shade, you can still see what's inside the car unlike some other tints whereby you cannot see through at all.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Mar 25 2018, 04:57 PM
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post Mar 25 2018, 04:59 PM

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Forgot to mention that the price range for the Huper Optik tint (5 years ago) was RM1,500 to RM1,600. I paid RM1,700 as I didn't go directly to the installer but went through the sales advisor whom I bought the new car from who took some commission from the tint installation.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 25 2018, 04:59 PM)
Forgot to mention that the price range for the Huper Optik tint (5 years ago) was RM1,500 to RM1,600. I paid RM1,700 as I didn't go directly to the installer but went through the sales advisor whom I bought the new car from who took some commission from the tint installation.
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You are correct bro! smile.gif
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post Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 25 2018, 04:59 PM)
Forgot to mention that the price range for the Huper Optik tint (5 years ago) was RM1,500 to RM1,600. I paid RM1,700 as I didn't go directly to the installer but went through the sales advisor whom I bought the new car from who took some commission from the tint installation.
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You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM)
You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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May I know which branch did you do your installation?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 25 2018, 04:59 PM)
Forgot to mention that the price range for the Huper Optik tint (5 years ago) was RM1,500 to RM1,600. I paid RM1,700 as I didn't go directly to the installer but went through the sales advisor whom I bought the new car from who took some commission from the tint installation.
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Pretty obvious your sales advisor is not that honest. Probably some chapalang house brand and told u it was HO


Only go to direct to installer as advertised in the website.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM)
You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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Sometimes the front hazy winsdcreen could be due to water bubble created during installation not completely dried up
Try park your car under the sun for a few days and see if the haze dissapears.
Mine took more than a week park under the hot sun to get the haze completely dissapears.
Do not try to press or remove this bubbles/haze with your fingers as they will tend to leave a mark on the tint.
Your installer should informed this to you
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post Mar 26 2018, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Mar 26 2018, 09:16 AM)
May I know which branch did you do your installation?
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QUOTE(widget @ Mar 26 2018, 10:08 AM)
Sometimes the front hazy winsdcreen could be due to water bubble created during installation not completely dried up
Try park your car under the sun for a few days and see if the haze dissapears.
Mine took more than a week park under the hot sun to get the haze completely dissapears.
Do not try to press or remove this bubbles/haze with your fingers as they will tend to leave a mark on the tint.
Your installer should informed this to you
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Thanks for the tip! The haze is quite irritating especially under direct sunlight and at night; as the haze will diffuse and amplifies any incoming light, makes it much glaring compared to non-tinted glass. Fingers crossed that it will go away soon and I won't have to retint it.
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Mar 26 2018, 09:35 AM)
Pretty obvious your sales advisor is not that honest. Probably some chapalang house brand and told u it was HO
Only go to direct to installer as advertised in the website.
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It's authentic Huper Optik tint as there as the documents and certificate are from Smart Windows which is the distributor for Huper Optik film. The direct installers listed on the Smart Windows(Huper Optik) website do not charge the same rates. I have called up few dealers previously (5 years ago) and the prices are all different. One dealer charged RM1,500 while another dealer can charge RM2,600. The difference was that big. It may sound weird but that's the true scenario at that time. I'm not sure if the dealers now charge at a uniform rate or the prices are still different between the outlets.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM)
You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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I have forgotten if the Sech60 on the front windscreen looked hazy on the first or 2nd day after installation. As mentioned earlier, it shouldn't be the case. Perhaps wait for 2 to 3 days or maybe up to week for the tint to completely dry up. If it still doesn't look clear, then the tint or workmanship is not good and they would need to redo for you.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM)
You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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Good price! I regretted of not going c30 all round! Slight haze shd go off in a few days! My car interior is light grey ,this make C40 not dark enough! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 26 2018, 11:06 AM)
I have called up few dealers previously (5 years ago)  and the prices are all different. One dealer charged RM1,500 while another dealer can charge RM2,600. The difference was that big. It may sound weird but that's the true scenario at that time. I'm not sure if the dealers now charge at a uniform rate or the prices are still different between the outlets.
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I believe still the same nowadays for all brands. It's not a uniform price and it will vary by outlet. So still need to shop around to compare.
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i personally vouch for Huper Optik as well
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QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 26 2018, 06:09 PM)
I believe still the same nowadays for all brands. It's not a uniform price and it will vary by outlet. So still need to shop around to compare.
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Yes that is true. However, I was shocked that the price difference can be more than RM1k for the same tint combination. A hundred ringgit or few hundred ringgit of difference would still be acceptable but more than RM1,000 difference is a bit weird.
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Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 1 2018, 12:58 AM)
Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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I have mine installed C70 front since last weekend and I haven't face any Smartag issue with mine. And I travel everyday from Klang to Kajang, pass through all sorts of tolls;
I drove like normal as long as the speed is under 25km/h, the toll would be able to capture your Smartag.

I may suspect 2 things,
1. Fake C70 installed. Does the installer provide to you a 5 year warranty certificate/receipt from Huper Optik?
2. Did the installer tint the black dotted areas around your rearview mirror? Normally they have a small cut out on that area to improve the Smartag reception.

How much did you tint your front windscreen?

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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 16 2018, 07:10 PM)
I've narrowed down my search for tints for my car down to 2 brands;
3M and Huper Optik are my preferred choices; however 3M is roughly 30% more expensive than Huper Optik, and has better heat rejection than Huper Optik; about 6-8% better;

My main preference is towards better heat rejection and lower performance degradation over time;
GPS and Smartag compatible;
JPJ approved;

3M Configuration:
Front Windshield: Crystalline 70
Front Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Side Door: Crystalline 50
Rear Windshield: Crystalline 50

Huper Optik Configuration:
Front Windshield: Ceramic 70
Front Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Side Door: Ceramic 50
Rear Windshield: Ceramic 50

Which one do you think is more value for money in terms of heat rejection?
Would it be worth it to fork out and go all out for the 3M?
Or Huper Optik would be sufficient enough?

Or.. any sifu here could recommend a different brand with comparable performance and at a much lower price?
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i been us HO since 2013. still feel good with this brand. it also high heat rejection. so far no issues with GPS and Smart tag
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Lebih kurang la performance . I like my 3m tint look. Got some purple effect . 3years ago d segment rm2k . Rmb to tint darker nicer look
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Apr 1 2018, 11:08 PM)
I have mine installed C70 front since last weekend and I haven't face any Smartag issue with mine. And I travel everyday from Klang to Kajang, pass through all sorts of tolls;
I drove like normal as long as the speed is under 25km/h, the toll would be able to capture your Smartag.

I may suspect 2 things,
1. Fake C70 installed. Does the installer provide to you a 5 year warranty certificate/receipt from Huper Optik?
2. Did the installer tint the black dotted areas around your rearview mirror? Normally they have a small cut out on that area to improve the Smartag reception.

How much did you tint your front windscreen?
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If it's a fake C70, shouldn't it be much easier to detect Smart Tag? Coz fake tint should have less IRR rejection right?

It comes with a receipt from the installer, not Huper Optik, but I did find the installer shop name in the Huper Optik authorised installer list.

The installer did not tint the black dotted area where the rear view mirror is. I paid RM650 for FWS only (Honda Civic FD).

I have communicated with the installer and Huper Optik HQ:

Installer: The C70 has 92% IRR rejection, chances are my front wind screen also come with certain % of Irr blockage, hence blocking completely the Smart Tag signal. He suggest me to cut a hole in the front wind screen tint, I am still considering.

Huper Optik HQ: Requested me to bring my car to their HQ in Pandan Indah for product verification and run a few test to ensure the tint is genuine. 30 mins drive from my office, I will arrange accordingly.

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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 2 2018, 03:21 PM)
The installer did not tint the black dotted area where the rear view mirror is. I paid RM650 for FWS only (Honda Civic FD).
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For the time being, perhaps you could try aiming your smart tag around the black dotted area while going through Smart tag tolls;
I believe the untinted area would allow the smart tag frequency pass through.

I haven't had any smart tag issue with mine la; probably its a fake too, but the warranty certificate prove otherwise.

Most importantly is to have the 5 year warranty receipt from your installer.

QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 2 2018, 03:21 PM)
Installer: The C70 has 92% IRR rejection, chances are my front wind screen also come with certain % of Irr blockage, hence blocking completely the Smart Tag signal. He suggest me to cut a hole in the front wind screen tint, I am still considering.

Huper Optik HQ: Requested me to bring my car to their HQ in Pandan Indah for product verification and run a few test to ensure the tint is genuine. 30 mins drive from my office, I will arrange accordingly.
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Good luck and all the best, hope everything turns out well for you.
Do update us; would like to hear what HO HQ says about your case.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 10:40 AM)
Thanks for the tip! The haze is quite irritating especially under direct sunlight and at night; as the haze will diffuse and amplifies any incoming light, makes it much glaring compared to non-tinted glass. Fingers crossed that it will go away soon and I won't have to retint it.
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How is your haze issue now?
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 1 2018, 12:58 AM)
As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work.
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Strange why your Smart Tag worked initially but then did not.

Anyway, do keep us updated after you have checked with Huper HQ.
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Apr 1 2018, 11:19 PM)
i been us HO since 2013. still feel good with this brand. it also high heat rejection. so far no issues with GPS and Smart tag
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Which Huper Optik combination are you on? With my vehicle, the Huper Optik tint is just mediocre in terms of heat rejection. Not exactly outstanding. Mine is Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windscreens (sides and rear). The V-Kool Elite tint on my previous car feels a lot cooler (better heat rejection) than the Huper Optik tint.

There are only two advantages with the Huper Optik tint which is the price (as it's considerably cheaper than V-Kool Elite) and GPS signal friendly. The Huper Optik is about RM1,000+/- cheaper than the V-kool tint. There are no issues with getting a GPS signal inside the car with Huper Optik whereas with the V-Kool Elite, 50% of the time I cannot get a GPS signal inside the car. To me this is the deal-breaker of the V-kool Elite despite its excellent heat rejection properties when compared to other competitors.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 3 2018, 08:46 AM)
Which Huper Optik combination are you on? With my vehicle, the Huper Optik tint is just mediocre in terms of heat rejection. Not exactly outstanding. Mine is Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windscreens (sides and rear). The V-Kool Elite tint on my previous car feels a lot cooler (better heat rejection) than the Huper Optik tint.

There are only two advantages with the Huper Optik tint which is the price (as it's considerably cheaper than V-Kool Elite) and GPS signal friendly. The Huper Optik is about RM1,000+/- cheaper than the V-kool tint. There are no issues with getting a GPS signal inside the car with Huper Optik whereas with the V-Kool Elite, 50% of the time I cannot get a GPS signal inside the car. To me this is the deal-breaker of the V-kool Elite despite its excellent heat rejection properties when compared to other competitors.
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same as you. so far i didn't test with other brand. for okla for malaysia weather. not to hot when enter car and cool faster after couple of minutes.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Apr 2 2018, 04:56 PM)
How is your haze issue now?
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The haze is still there; apparently HO informed me that its the characteristics of C70; plus due to the steep windscreen of my Focus, this further "enhances" the haze effect;
However I learned to ignore it and overtime it doesn't bother me much; it just that there will always be a shade of blue colour on my windshield, as compared to a clear colourless vision of a non-tinted windshield.

QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 3 2018, 07:46 AM)
Which Huper Optik combination are you on? With my vehicle, the Huper Optik tint is just mediocre in terms of heat rejection. Not exactly outstanding. Mine is Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windscreens (sides and rear). The V-Kool Elite tint on my previous car feels a lot cooler (better heat rejection) than the Huper Optik tint.

There are only two advantages with the Huper Optik tint which is the price (as it's considerably cheaper than V-Kool Elite) and GPS signal friendly. The Huper Optik is about RM1,000+/- cheaper than the V-kool tint. There are no issues with getting a GPS signal inside the car with Huper Optik whereas with the V-Kool Elite, 50% of the time I cannot get a GPS signal inside the car. To me this is the deal-breaker of the V-kool Elite despite its excellent heat rejection properties when compared to other competitors.
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My thoughts exactly; Huper Optik has much better value for money as compared to V-kool; plus I'm able to use Smart tag and obtain a GPS lock is a better trade-off than a slight better heat rejection of the V-kool.
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Crystaline 70 is not smarttag compliant

What I do is use the 3M security tint (top range) for all windows, use C70 for rear screen, and use something else (vkool) for front windscreen

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Maybe going to drop by to the one of the HO authorized applicator in Puchong (Smart Tints Garage @ One Puchong) to figure negotiate the best price as they literally want to entertain for serious price over FB. If anyone of you wish to ask, probably can forward me along then i will help ask along. (just help out as sharing purpose, not selling ya)
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 3 2018, 10:46 AM)
Crystaline 70 is not smarttag compliant

What I do is use the 3M security tint (top range) for all windows, use C70 for rear screen, and use something else (vkool) for front windscreen
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What v-kool series you used for your front ws? Any issue with GPS signal?
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What v-kool series you used for your front ws? Any issue with GPS signal?
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Using vkool elite, the bestest de i think
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 3 2018, 10:46 AM)
Crystaline 70 is not smarttag compliant

What I do is use the 3M security tint (top range) for all windows, use C70 for rear screen, and use something else (vkool) for front windscreen
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That would be the ideal case; 3M at the side and HO/V-kool on the front/rear (for Smart tag and GPS compatibility);
However, won't that combination cost a lot more than just tint all side under the same brand? How much did you got for your car?
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Apr 4 2018, 04:38 PM)
That would be the ideal case; 3M at the side and HO/V-kool on the front/rear (for Smart tag and GPS compatibility);
However, won't that combination cost a lot more than just tint all side under the same brand? How much did you got for your car?
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SUV : All top range 3M/security + front top range vkool = RM2300
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front top range vkool
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For front, what is the top range for vkool? Is it vkool elite?
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For front, what is the top range for vkool? Is it vkool elite?
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 2 2018, 03:21 PM)
If it's a fake C70, shouldn't it be much easier to detect Smart Tag? Coz fake tint should have less IRR rejection right?

It comes with a receipt from the installer, not Huper Optik, but I did find the installer shop name in the Huper Optik authorised installer list.

The installer did not tint the black dotted area where the rear view mirror is. I paid RM650 for FWS only (Honda Civic FD).

I have communicated with the installer and Huper Optik HQ:

Installer: The C70 has 92% IRR rejection, chances are my front wind screen also come with certain % of Irr blockage, hence blocking completely the Smart Tag signal. He suggest me to cut a hole in the front wind screen tint, I am still considering.

Huper Optik HQ: Requested me to bring my car to their HQ in Pandan Indah for product verification and run a few test to ensure the tint is genuine. 30 mins drive from my office, I will arrange accordingly.
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FYI...old smart tag, big butt smart tag is 3M crystalline user friendly.

D newer smart tag (black color) d signal is not so strong for 3M crystalline, certain Smart Tag lane is ok , some is not.

My is the dotted spot on the windscreen was not tinted, I used my black smart tag there!

How do you know you installed genuine 3M crystalline?
1. is the 3M logo at the film itself
2. U put your car under sun, you can your windscreen purpleish.

How the above helps...
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Apr 1 2018, 11:19 PM)
i been us HO since 2013. still feel good with this brand. it also high heat rejection. so far no issues with GPS and Smart tag
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I will fully support 3M Crystalline for the whole car.

Front CR50, rest CR40.
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I will fully support 3M Crystalline for the whole car.

Front CR50, rest CR40.
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Why is that? You really have good experience with 3M tint ya?
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Apr 3 2018, 10:43 AM)
The haze is still there; apparently HO informed me that its the characteristics of C70; plus due to the steep windscreen of my Focus, this further "enhances" the haze effect;
However I learned to ignore it and overtime it doesn't bother me much; it just that there will always be a shade of blue colour on my windshield, as compared to a clear colourless vision of a non-tinted windshield.
My thoughts exactly; Huper Optik has much better value for money as compared to V-kool; plus I'm able to use Smart tag and obtain a GPS lock is a better trade-off than a slight better heat rejection of the V-kool.
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The haze effect...could it be due to your wind screen reflection of the top part of your dashboard?
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 5 2018, 02:18 PM)
Why is that? You really have good experience with 3M tint ya?
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Front windscreen, I started off with Crystalline 70 , 60 now 50.

The rest of window from still Crystalline 60. For my own ride.

If I recommend to my fellow frens will be now either CR40/ CR50 for the rest of the windows front still stick to CR50.

Coz the front, CR50 really comfortable and is not dark at all if you use 3M tint for 50% as compare other brand.


The advantages with 3M is that the clarity of its film even driving during the night, crystal clear!


I have other rides tinted with 3M Color Stable 50 for front, rest Color Stable 35.

Another is Ceramic50 front windscreen, rest 3M HP50, rear color stable 35.

I have tried different combination of 3M film, so far Crystalline still the best for heat rejection, for dark color wise Color Stable, the dark is so beautiful especially use it on rear windscreen.

Hope it helps...
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 5 2018, 02:25 PM)
The haze effect...could it be due to your wind screen reflection of the top part of your dashboard?
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That is what I suspect at first as well; that the haze could be due to the sunlight reflecting off my dashboard; however I've tried covering my dashboard with a black cloth to reduce the reflection, the haze effect still remains; the HO installer and I concluded it was due to the blue-ish hue of the tint itself, made worst by my car's steep windshield.

QUOTE(viper1912 @ Apr 5 2018, 05:21 PM)
Front windscreen, I started off with Crystalline 70 , 60 now 50.

The rest of window from still Crystalline 60. For my own ride.

If I recommend to my fellow frens will be now either CR40/ CR50 for the rest of the windows front still stick to CR50.

Coz the front, CR50 really comfortable and is not dark at all if you use 3M tint for 50% as compare other brand.
The advantages with 3M is that the clarity of its film even driving during the night, crystal clear!
I have other rides tinted with 3M Color Stable 50 for front, rest Color Stable 35.

Another is Ceramic50 front windscreen, rest 3M HP50, rear color stable 35.

I have tried different combination of 3M film, so far Crystalline still the best for heat rejection, for dark color wise Color Stable, the dark is so beautiful especially use it on rear windscreen.

Hope it helps...
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Crystalline 50 at the front doesn't comply to JPJ standard; you might run into trouble during roadblocks; as it is quite easy to visually differentiate between VLT 70% and 50%.
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QUOTE(viper1912 @ Apr 5 2018, 05:21 PM)
Front windscreen, I started off with Crystalline 70 , 60 now 50.

The rest of window from still Crystalline 60. For my own ride.

If I recommend to my fellow frens will be now either CR40/ CR50 for the rest of the windows front still stick to CR50.

Coz the front, CR50 really comfortable and is not dark at all if you use 3M tint for 50% as compare other brand.
The advantages with 3M is that the clarity of its film even driving during the night, crystal clear!
I have other rides tinted with 3M Color Stable 50 for front, rest Color Stable 35.

Another is Ceramic50 front windscreen, rest 3M HP50, rear color stable 35.

I have tried different combination of 3M film, so far Crystalline still the best for heat rejection, for dark color wise Color Stable, the dark is so beautiful especially use it on rear windscreen.

Hope it helps...
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Did this 3M tint block your Smart Tag signal?

Doesn't 3M Tint come with 3M logo on the tint itself? I find it annoying as it might appear right in front of my wind screen, right?

Have you tried using Vkool Elite? 3M heat rejection can be better than VKool Elite or not?

What is the color of 3M tint? I think VKool Elite is greenish right?

Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Apr 5 2018, 05:30 PM)
That is what I suspect at first as well; that the haze could be due to the sunlight reflecting off my dashboard; however I've tried covering my dashboard with a black cloth to reduce the reflection, the haze effect still remains; the HO installer and I concluded it was due to the blue-ish hue of the tint itself, made worst by my car's steep windshield.
Crystalline 50 at the front doesn't comply to JPJ standard; you might run into trouble during roadblocks; as it is quite easy to visually differentiate between VLT 70% and 50%.
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u can try CR70 if u hv concern on JPJ. But dun complaint.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 5 2018, 06:24 PM)
Did this 3M tint block your Smart Tag signal?

Doesn't 3M Tint come with 3M logo on the tint itself? I find it annoying as it might appear right in front of my wind screen, right?

Have you tried using Vkool Elite? 3M heat rejection can be better than VKool Elite or not?

What is the color of 3M tint? I think VKool Elite is greenish right?

Thanks for sharing.
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1. read my earlier post on smart tag usage.
2. i hv no issue on the little 3M logo across my windscreen, dislike can wipe off with thinner.
3.I m 3M supported nvr try v kool.
4. 3M got so many range which film u r refering to?
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FYI, just another price reference for Huper Optik: 1.9k using Sech 60 FWS and the rest is C40.

This is for a mid-size SUV.

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FYI, just another price reference for Huper Optik: 1.9k using Sech 60 FWS and the rest is C40.

This is for a mid-size SUV.
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Not bad of a price, especially for SUV, and SECH60 has better heat rejection than C70;
Where did you get that price?
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Not bad of a price, especially for SUV, and SECH60 has better heat rejection than C70;
Where did you get that price?
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This price is mentioned by one of the car clubs that I'm a member of. It's a Huper dealer in Puchong.

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Eh, anyone can quote me the best pricing for the below products? Do also let me know the location if it's in KL/Selangor ya..

Btw, nobody mentioned about Raytech?

1. 3M Crystalline 70 for front widescreen + 3M Crystalline 50 for side and rear window?
2. HO Sech 60 for front widescreen + HO Ceramic 50 for side and rear window?
3. Vkool Elite for front widescreen + Vkool Windowshield 50 for side and rear window?

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 08:49 AM)
Eh, anyone can quote me the best pricing for the below products? Do also let me know the location if it's in KL/Selangor ya..

Btw, nobody mentioned about Raytech?

1. 3M Crystalline 70 for front widescreen + 3M Crystalline 50 for side and rear window?
2. HO Sech 60 for front widescreen + HO Ceramic 50 for side and rear window?
3. Vkool Elite for front widescreen + Vkool Windowshield 50 for side and rear window?
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I have llumar in my 12 year old car. Puspakom legal. My new car with HO is not legal, SECH60 and their 40 VLT ting all round. Llumar is cooler than HO.

Driving in both car, when the sun shines on my face from the driver side window, I can feel the sting in my face with HO. Never felt any sting with Llumar.

That being said my HO installer was VERY professional. Authorized dealer in Puchong. 5 star for service. My experience with Llumar HQ in Chan Sow Lin was shit (re-tint my FWS cause broken). Their workmanship was shit, attitude was also shit.

I’d probably won’t use HO next round. Maybe try 3M.

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Just had my 4th car tinted with 3M today

I think on heat resist, 3M CR = VCool. Difference is.. vcool is expensive AF

Llumar.. i think the heat resist is crap. Tried once; expensive and crap (that was bout 5 years ago)

Never tried HO though
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 1 2018, 12:58 AM)
Huper Optik C70 Review:

I just installed HO C70 for my Front wind screen as the old one was removed when I replaced my windscreen. Previously using VKool Elite and all thensode windows are now still using VKool Elite that is already 7 years old. VKool Elite still good and reject heat very well, no discolouration what so ever.

As for HO C70, after 2 days of using and passing 8 toll plazas, initially for the few toll plaza the Smart Tag works, though a bit slowly, but after that it just stopped working under the C70 HO tint, battery life of my Smart Tag still good, so now I have to wind down window and hold up the Smart Tag to make it work. Was really surprised as the reason I opted for HO is for their Ceramic tint which say to work well with Smart Tag, but it’s not the case. Really inconvenient. Even the installer had slight doubt before installing, he told me errrr...HO has upgraded their tint and might not work well with Smart Tag. Too late now.

As for heat rejection, VKool definitely is better and the vision is also clearer compared to HO.

To whoever wanted to install HO C70 for FWS, take note and think twice.
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For forumer sake, I need to update on my situation above.

After 1 week of usage on HO C70 tint which failed at Smart Tag lanes 90% of the time (even after changing to new Energizer batteries). I can't take it anymore and I returned to the installer, who is also as puzzled as me how come HO Ceramic Tint main selling point is for its Smart Tag/electronic friendly characteristic compared to metallic based tint such as VKool. To be fair, only Smart Tag signal was blocked, autogate/condo RFID boom gate/ Phone GPS all works fine.

I took out the HO tint after 1 week usage, though my heart ache like mad as the tint was done perfectly with good workmanship and I got use to the color hue, but had to take it out due to the inconveniences of having to wind down my car window every time I pass the toll. I went back to the installer and claim warranty, they took out the tint, and I top up money to install VKool Elite, as I don't want to take any more chances with HO tint anymore.

VKool works fine with Smart Tag now, but autogate/condo RFID signal got blocked. Well, there is no perfect world I guess. Still like the color hue of VKool, greenish, very pleasing to the eyes.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 18 2018, 11:42 AM)
For forumer sake, I need to update on my situation above.

After 1 week of usage on HO C70 tint which failed at Smart Tag lanes 90% of the time (even after changing to new Energizer batteries). I can't take it anymore and I returned to the installer, who is also as puzzled as me how come HO Ceramic Tint main selling point is for its Smart Tag/electronic friendly characteristic compared to metallic based tint such as VKool. To be fair, only Smart Tag signal was blocked, autogate/condo RFID boom gate/ Phone GPS all works fine.

I took out the HO tint after 1 week usage, though my heart ache like mad as the tint was done perfectly with good workmanship and I got use to the color hue, but had to take it out due to the inconveniences of having to wind down my car window every time I pass the toll. I went back to the installer and claim warranty, they took out the tint, and I top up money to install VKool Elite, as I don't want to take any more chances with HO tint anymore.

VKool works fine with Smart Tag now, but autogate/condo RFID signal got blocked. Well, there is no perfect world I guess. Still like the color hue of VKool, greenish, very pleasing to the eyes.
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Thanks for the update.
I remember you've mentioned that you've sent your car to HO's HQ for testing, what is the outcome of that test?

As for the Smartag, were you using the old one (which was quite big in size)?
Mine was the slim type Smartag which worked for me.
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Thanks for the update.
I remember you've mentioned that you've sent your car to HO's HQ for testing, what is the outcome of that test?

As for the Smartag, were you using the old one (which was quite big in size)?
Mine was the slim type Smartag which worked for me.
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I did not send my car to HO HQ which was far away from my office/home. But 2 days after I lodged the complaint to Huper Optik via FB private messaging, they responded and also called the installer, instructing the installer to re-install the tint with different roll, that's when I have decided not to take the risk on HO C70 again, and pay the price difference for VKool Elite.

My Smart Tag is the old type (big), I thought the old one has stronger signal? The installer told me the slim type can work, not sure if that's true.

You are using HO C70 as well?

Credit has to be given to Huper Optik HQ and the installer for listening/attending to the customer need/concern/complaints. I am sure HO is a good tint, but unfortunately it didn't work with my old Smart Tag.

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How is your HO tint performance after 3 years?
Car is still cool under our hot malaysian weather?
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 18 2018, 02:13 PM)
I did not send my car to HO HQ which was far away from my office/home. But 2 days after I lodged the complaint to Huper Optik via FB private messaging, they responded and also called the installer, instructing the installer to re-install the tint with different roll, that's when I have decided not to take the risk on HO C70 again, and pay the price difference for VKool Elite.

My Smart Tag is the old type (big), I thought the old one has stronger signal? The installer told me the slim type can work, not sure if that's true.

You are using HO C70 as well?

Credit has to be given to Huper Optik HQ and the installer for listening/attending to the customer need/concern/complaints. I am sure HO is a good tint, but unfortunately it didn't work with my old Smart Tag.
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Yeah, im currently using C70 front;
My smart tag was the slim type which can be used in all toll's i've drove past.
I'm not sure about the signal strength between the old and new though; I believe majority of the HO users here are using the newer slim type.
Anyhow, I can confirm that the slim type can be used with my C70.

How much did you have to top-up for the VKool Elite?
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Apr 18 2018, 02:38 PM)
Yeah, im currently using C70 front;
My smart tag was the slim type which can be used in all toll's i've drove past.
I'm not sure about the signal strength between the old and new though; I believe majority of the HO users here are using the newer slim type.
Anyhow, I can confirm that the slim type can be used with my C70.

How much did you have to top-up for the VKool Elite?
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Thanks for your feedback. I had to top up RM304 for VKool Elite (inclusive of GST).
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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 14 2018, 10:04 PM)
I have llumar in my 12 year old car. Puspakom legal. My new car with HO is not legal, SECH60 and their 40 VLT ting all round. Llumar is cooler than HO.

Driving in both car, when the sun shines on my face from the driver side window, I can feel the sting in my face with HO. Never felt any sting with Llumar.

That being said my HO installer was VERY professional. Authorized dealer in Puchong. 5 star for service. My experience with Llumar HQ in Chan Sow Lin was shit (re-tint my FWS cause broken). Their workmanship was shit, attitude was also shit.

I’d probably won’t use HO next round. Maybe try 3M.
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Same experience here as well. Same tint Sech60 with front windescreen and C40 with all other windscreens, sides and rear. In my mind the V-kool Elite on my previous car is much cooler than this Huper Optik combination on my current car.

I'll likely not use Huper Optik again if I were getting a new car even though price-wise they are competitive (RM1.5k to 1.6k). Will just need to find alternatives that give better heat rejection that the Sech60/C40 at almost similar VLT. The V-Kool Elite is surely good but the price is close to RM2.5k if not more if i"m not mistaken, which is about RM1k more expensive than the Huper Optik.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 18 2018, 11:42 AM)
For forumer sake, I need to update on my situation above.

After 1 week of usage on HO C70 tint which failed at Smart Tag lanes 90% of the time (even after changing to new Energizer batteries). I can't take it anymore and I returned to the installer, who is also as puzzled as me how come HO Ceramic Tint main selling point is for its Smart Tag/electronic friendly characteristic compared to metallic based tint such as VKool. To be fair, only Smart Tag signal was blocked, autogate/condo RFID boom gate/ Phone GPS all works fine.

I took out the HO tint after 1 week usage, though my heart ache like mad as the tint was done perfectly with good workmanship and I got use to the color hue, but had to take it out due to the inconveniences of having to wind down my car window every time I pass the toll. I went back to the installer and claim warranty, they took out the tint, and I top up money to install VKool Elite, as I don't want to take any more chances with HO tint anymore.

VKool works fine with Smart Tag now, but autogate/condo RFID signal got blocked. Well, there is no perfect world I guess. Still like the color hue of VKool, greenish, very pleasing to the eyes.
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Sorry to hear about your situation but at least you have made up your mind and proceeded with the action. Good to hear it's all settled now and you can put the case to rest.

Same experience with the greenish hue with Vkool Elite which is more pleasing to the eye when compared to the brownish hue of the Huper Optik Sech60 in my case. I also did not have problems with Smart Tag when on Vkool Elite. My only problem with Vkool Elite is with GPS. Can you try enabling your Drive navigation app on your smartphone and see if it works inside the car? I cannot get a GPS signal inside the car with Vkool Elite previously, 50% of the time. Even though a signal is locked, the navigation on the Drive app will stop working after several minutes as it will give a message "Signal Lost", or "Searching for Signal", something like that.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 20 2018, 08:05 AM)
Sorry to hear about your situation but at least you have made up your mind and proceeded with the action. Good to hear it's all settled now and you can put the case to rest.

Same experience with the greenish hue with Vkool Elite which is more pleasing to the eye when compared to the brownish hue of the Huper Optik Sech60 in my case. I also did not have problems with Smart Tag when on Vkool Elite. My only problem with Vkool Elite is with GPS. Can you try enabling your Drive navigation app on your smartphone and see if it works inside the car? I cannot get a GPS signal inside the car with Vkool Elite previously, 50% of the time. Even though a signal is locked, the navigation on the Drive app will stop working after several minutes as it will give a message "Signal Lost", or "Searching for Signal", something like that.
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With the installation of VKool Elite on my front wind screen, now my entire car is with VKool Elite (the side windows and back windscreen was installed with VKool Elite since 8 years ago). I can confirmed that Drive Navigation App (I only use Google Map) works inside my car. I do not use Garmin GPS device or similar. My brother tinted his entire Vellfire with Vkool Elite recently told me the GPS in his Garmin works as well. The only downside is autogate remote signal is slow, sometimes blocked completely. RFID card remote with boom gate (in Gated and Guarded) also got blocked completely.
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 20 2018, 09:31 AM)
With the installation of VKool Elite on my front wind screen, now my entire car is with VKool Elite (the side windows and back windscreen was installed with VKool Elite since 8 years ago). I can confirmed that Drive Navigation App (I only use Google Map) works inside my car. I do not  use Garmin GPS device or similar. My brother tinted his entire Vellfire with Vkool Elite recently told me the GPS in his Garmin works as well. The only downside is autogate remote signal is slow, sometimes blocked completely. RFID card remote with boom gate (in Gated and Guarded) also got blocked completely.
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It is good to hear that the Drive navigation app is able to work inside the car with Vkool Elite all round. I'm not sure on the Vkool tint that was on the side and rear windscreens as I didn't really bother to find out at that time (installed on my previous car 10 years ago). Vkool Elite's VLT is rather high, 70% VLT if I'm not mistaken as it is meant for the front windscreen. I'm not sure if there are other Vkool tints that are in lower VLT so that the heat rejection (TSER) is higher which can be used for the sides and rear windscreens. The side rear and rear windscreens can go up to 30% VLT so it's pretty dark behind there.

Yes, I too recall a slow response of the autogate remote. It works but you would have to press more than once, and you can't press it too soon before your car reaches the gate. I usually press the remote 2 to 3 houses away and the gate will still open, though it's the Huper Optik tint. As for the access card through the boom gate, it's good that the system is remote and you don't have wind down the windscreen but too bad you need to do so to pass through the boom gate. Our system here is not remote so everyone has to wind down the windscreen and swipe the access card on the sensor pad to go through the boom gate.
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really unfortunate to heard about your incident. anyhow, my experience with HO was far more merier & happy i would said. Mine was quote for C40 Front & Back WS, HS40S 6Mil Passenger Windows on my Honda Civic FC 2.2k and it has been almost 2 weeks since applied, has been doing pretty good job against heat rejection & smart tag friendly. Overall, the workmanship was pretty great as i assess them while along the way when putting the film on. I even get additional for the head lamp protection film with the workshop. even there was an small issue at the back of the break light where the most difficult reaching edge of the film pop with bubble, but the branch manager taking the initiative to offer me come to the workshop to fix it immediately without questioning much.
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QUOTE(stanley984 @ May 4 2018, 03:15 PM)
really unfortunate to heard about your incident. anyhow, my experience with HO was far more merier & happy i would said. Mine was quote for C40 Front & Back WS, HS40S 6Mil Passenger Windows on my Honda Civic FC 2.2k and it has been almost 2 weeks since applied, has been doing pretty good job against heat rejection & smart tag friendly. Overall, the workmanship was pretty great as i assess them while along the way when putting the film on. I even get additional for the head lamp protection film with the workshop. even there was an small issue at the back of the break light where the most difficult reaching edge of the film pop with bubble, but the branch manager taking the initiative to offer me come to the workshop to fix it immediately without questioning much.
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Haha bro.. If have time, share with us how dark it is ok? Interested to see more
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QUOTE(vivian1979 @ May 15 2018, 05:53 PM)
Finally i chose 3M, i took the higher grade Crystallize after a comparing few brands in market. Installed mine at kuchai lama branch, very satisfied with the workmanship. Very friendly owner and got quoted good price from the boss also.
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May I know what combination of VLT you opted for your 3M Tint?

Can share the Kuchai Lama Branch Manager contact with me? Thanks.
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My new beemer is fitted with 3M Crystaline and being using it for 4 days now. Under not sun it performed really well, can't feel the heat at all. For Smart Tag, they cut a neat hole near the back view mirror where it can't being seen so it's working well passing tolls.

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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Jun 17 2018, 04:39 PM)
My new beemer is fitted with 3M Crystaline and being using it for 4 days now. Under not sun it performed really well, can't feel the heat at all. For Smart Tag, they cut a neat hole near the back view mirror where it can't being seen so it's working well passing tolls.
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Hi bro,

Mind to share the 3m spec for winshield, side n rear?
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Hi bro,

Mind to share the 3m spec for winshield, side n rear?
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Sure seem darker than front, sorry I don't have the specs with me but was assured it's JPJ compliance
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3M, CRYSTAL 70 - 50 - 40 with safety film 4 windows RM 2350
GOOD PRICE?
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3M Crystaline 90 the remote control and phone GPS can work perfect or not?
I used v-kool the remote control can't even pass, need open windows.. GPS is only passable thru the un tinted top, which is replaced with the dark cheap tint.. just to let GPS pass.. so the GPS is very delay and retarted... always missed a corner.. more worse when raining,,,

Please advice if 3M Crystaline 90 also have this issue???? I am planning to change after near 7 years using... might want change the windscreen and driver side + passenger side only.. for the GPS and remote control.

Cheers. I never heard of this Huper Optic brand in northern malaysia.. hrmm....
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i asked quotation form huper optik they quote me 2550 for c70/c40. 3m quote me 2200 for the same. nowadays 3m is cheaper than huper?
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QUOTE(kahwei2408 @ Jul 26 2018, 02:10 PM)
i asked quotation form huper optik they quote me 2550 for c70/c40. 3m quote me 2200 for the same. nowadays 3m is cheaper than huper?
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Hmm... 2550 seems a bit high for that combo of Huper Optik. I think other installers can quote lower.
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QUOTE(popopi @ Jul 25 2018, 04:29 PM)
3M Crystaline 90 the remote control and phone GPS can work perfect or not?
I used v-kool the remote control can't even pass, need open windows.. GPS is only passable thru the un tinted top, which is replaced with the dark cheap tint.. just to let GPS pass.. so the GPS is very delay and retarted... always missed a corner.. more worse when raining,,,

Please advice if 3M Crystaline 90 also have this issue???? I am planning to change after near 7 years using... might want change the windscreen and driver side + passenger side only.. for the GPS and remote control.

Cheers. I never heard of this Huper Optic brand in northern malaysia.. hrmm....
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from my experience, VKOOL i will have waze gps issue, i need wind down window to get signals. For 3M crystalline series, will have smart tag issue. can check out Rayno, not bad either too.
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Never try Huper Optik, but I am very satisfied with 3M.
1.5k for:
Window: scotchshield 50
Back WindScreen: ebony 40
Front Windscreen: crystalline 70
Can't feel the heat much if not at all.

The issue I have is it blocks smart tag.

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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Jun 17 2018, 04:39 PM)
My new beemer is fitted with 3M Crystaline and being using it for 4 days now. Under not sun it performed really well, can't feel the heat at all. For Smart Tag, they cut a neat hole near the back view mirror where it can't being seen so it's working well passing tolls.
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So, do you need to hold the smart tag and place it behind the rear view mirror to pass the gantry? Or it can detect normally, as in when you just anyhow leave it on the dashboard or place near the windscreen at driver's side?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 26 2018, 09:33 PM)
So, do you need to hold the smart tag and place it behind the rear view mirror to pass the gantry? Or it can detect normally, as in when you just anyhow leave it on the dashboard or place near the windscreen at driver's side?
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Near the rear view mirror, they've cut a section for me to stick my smartag holder and it's working perfectly fine. It looks ok as the cut section is at where the printed dotted antenna is so it's hidden well
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Jul 26 2018, 10:46 PM)
Near the rear view mirror, they've cut a section for me to stick my smartag holder and it's working perfectly fine. It looks ok as the cut section is at where the printed dotted antenna is so it's hidden well
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OIC, that means if I'm going for 3M Crystalline, I'd probably have to get them to cut a hole near driver's side sun visor, where I'll hold the smart tag as I near the gantry. I don't like to stick the smart tag reader on the windscreen.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 26 2018, 10:52 PM)
OIC, that means if I'm going for 3M Crystalline, I'd probably have to get them to cut a hole near driver's side sun visor, where I'll hold the smart tag as I near the gantry. I don't like to stick the smart tag reader on the windscreen.
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Yup. Why not stick it? It's so much more convenient

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hi guys, what is the price range for huper optik c70 windscreen/ c40 rest combo on a c segment suv??

i got a shop quote me around 1.9k? reasonable?
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Jul 28 2018, 07:13 PM)
hi guys, what is the price range for huper optik c70 windscreen/ c40 rest combo on a c segment suv??

i got a shop quote me around 1.9k? reasonable?
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I think 1.9k falls within the acceptable price range. Which Huper Optik dealer quoted you this?

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Yup. Why not stick it? It's so much more convenient
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1. I lost the holder for my smart tag
2. I am reluctant to display the device in case it tempts anyone. Very troublesome to replace window or windscreen.
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I have installed Huper Optik for 2 months now, very satisfied with the heat rejection and the look of my car with the darker tint.
I chose Sech60 for the front windscreen, C40 for front side windows, and C20 for the rear windows and rear windscreen.
I don't face any problem at all with smart tag, GPS or auto gate remote.
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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Jul 29 2018, 07:43 PM)
I have installed Huper Optik for 2 months now, very satisfied with the heat rejection and the look of my car with the darker tint.
I chose Sech60 for the front windscreen, C40 for front side windows, and C20 for the rear windows and rear windscreen.
I don't face any problem at all with smart tag, GPS or auto gate remote.
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You get your huper optik done at which installer?
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At their authorized installer Smart Tint in Johor Bahru.
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I think 1.9k falls within the acceptable price range. Which Huper Optik dealer quoted you this?
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The guys who tinted with 3M here - which 3M outlets did you use?

Any review of those who used 3M Kuchai Lama or 3M Kepong perhaps? Any reason to choose one over the other?
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QUOTE(whitegoh @ Jul 26 2018, 09:04 PM)
Never try Huper Optik, but I am very satisfied with 3M.
1.5k for:
Window: scotchshield 50
Back WindScreen: ebony 40
Front Windscreen: crystalline 70
Can't feel the heat much if not at all.

The issue I have is it blocks smart tag.
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Bro can share contact for 3M agent?
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Besides reported problems with smart tag on 3M tint, there are several YouTube videos comparing 3M vs Huper Optik




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QUOTE(kevin20916 @ Mar 22 2018, 10:18 PM)
Both tinted film brand I installed to my car before, one was installed on vios and another kia forte. crystalline in fact still reject heat better. I know a 3m films owner offered me good price and i am very satisfied with his workmanship also. If you need his contact, can pm me
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Can u give me the contact no?tq
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Apr 5 2018, 06:24 PM)
Did this 3M tint block your Smart Tag signal?

Doesn't 3M Tint come with 3M logo on the tint itself? I find it annoying as it might appear right in front of my wind screen, right?

Have you tried using Vkool Elite? 3M heat rejection can be better than VKool Elite or not?

What is the color of 3M tint? I think VKool Elite is greenish right?

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The 3M logo still on film?? I found it extremely annoying. Because of it I think go for any other brands to have 3M in front.

Can't help my eye too sensitive to impurities of view.


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QUOTE(candidman78 @ Oct 1 2018, 04:54 PM)
The 3M logo still on film?? I found it extremely annoying.  Because of it I think go for any other brands to have 3M in front.

Can't help my eye too sensitive to impurities of view.
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The logo can be removed. If you ask the installer, they would remove it for you.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 29 2018, 03:52 PM)
1. I lost the holder for my smart tag
2. I am reluctant to display the  device in case it tempts anyone. Very troublesome to replace window or windscreen.
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I can understand. There are many places still, in Malaysia, where there would break into your car to take the smart tag. That is y when we pass by tolls, many cars you can see through their window, one hand hold smart tag, another hand hold steering wheel. Some cars even have to juggle their manual car’s gears. 😂

I also know in the old days, when we park cars, some also remove their radio as it is just a panel, to prevent theft.

I also have friends who had their cars broken into just to steal the road tax, if the road tax sticker has a separate film/sticker to prevent it from marring your windscreen.

I guess i’m slightly fortunate to stay / park in areas where I can permanently install my smart tag.
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Hi all,

Anyone of u using 3m crystalline?

My front and rear windscreen with 3m crystalline, and there is a row of “3m” logo on the tint film.

Quite ugly and affect my vision, is it the same to other users here?
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QUOTE(alexkoi @ Oct 8 2018, 07:51 PM)
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Anyone of u using 3m crystalline?

My front and rear windscreen with 3m crystalline, and there is a row of “3m” logo on the tint film.

Quite ugly and affect my vision, is it the same to other users here?
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Mine does not have. Get your installer to remove the logo.
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QUOTE(alexkoi @ Oct 8 2018, 07:51 PM)
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Anyone of u using 3m crystalline?

My front and rear windscreen with 3m crystalline, and there is a row of “3m” logo on the tint film.

Quite ugly and affect my vision, is it the same to other users here?
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That mark is a way to know the film is authentic.

How ever the installer should 'clean' that mark at the end of the installation process.

Just go back to the shop and asked them to 'clean' it.
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Using rubbing alcohol on a q-tip can remove the logo.
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Just wondering what specs do you all tint for huper optik? Will fully c40 be too dark for a black interior car?
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Just wondering what specs do you all tint for huper optik? Will fully c40 be too dark for a black interior car?
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Nope. c70 for front screen and c40 for the rest. Should have gone for c30
Cost 1.8k for my camry
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Hai. anyone ever install full 3M ebony40? can review? Thanks. Want to know is it fast too cool down after park under hot sun once we enter the car n on low speed aircon? Tq.
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hi guys good to have found this thread.. a bit off from the title.. I am not sure which brand to choose for lexus nx... vkool 3m Hüper optic or llumar or solar gard..my main concern is the heat rejection and durability over time aside from the basic smarttag n jpj compliance/compatibility.

which brand shouldi go for and I will not go wrong with?

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Based on JPJ Malaysia Installation of Tinted Glass Rules, none of the above product including Crystalline 70 has visible light transmittance of 70% on front windscreen. How can it be compliant with JPJ guidelines?
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QUOTE(huhh @ Oct 11 2018, 10:57 PM)
Nope. c70 for front screen and c40 for the rest. Should have gone for c30
Cost 1.8k for my camry
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yes... should have gone for c30.. i recently did the same 70/40, just feel its not dark enough.. easily see thru
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Oct 25 2018, 05:16 PM)
hi guys good to have found this thread.. a bit off from the title.. I am not sure which brand to choose for lexus nx... vkool 3m Hüper optic or llumar or solar gard..my main concern is the heat rejection and durability over time aside from the basic smarttag n jpj compliance/compatibility.

which  brand shouldi go for and  I will not go wrong with?

additionalinfo:
Based on JPJ Malaysia Installation of Tinted Glass Rules, none of the above product including Crystalline 70 has visible light transmittance of 70% on front windscreen. How can it be compliant with JPJ guidelines?
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regarding vlt 70% compliance, some companies will give assurance that they will cover the summon.. like i recently did with HO c70/40, was told if kena summon.. jz take the summon to them.
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Oct 25 2018, 05:16 PM)
hi guys good to have found this thread.. a bit off from the title.. I am not sure which brand to choose for lexus nx... vkool 3m Hüper optic or llumar or solar gard..my main concern is the heat rejection and durability over time aside from the basic smarttag n jpj compliance/compatibility.

which  brand shouldi go for and  I will not go wrong with?

additionalinfo:
Based on JPJ Malaysia Installation of Tinted Glass Rules, none of the above product including Crystalline 70 has visible light transmittance of 70% on front windscreen. How can it be compliant with JPJ guidelines?
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If you insist on film that can pass Puspakom, your best bet would be films with 90%, 70% and 50%VLT for fws, front side windows, and rear windows/rws - respectively.
Then, you will be jealous of your friend's ride with lower VLT films.

QUOTE(limys89 @ Oct 25 2018, 05:33 PM)
regarding vlt 70% compliance, some companies will give assurance that they will cover the summon.. like i recently did with HO c70/40, was told if kena summon.. jz take the summon to them.
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Do they cover the cost to send to puspakom and to re-tint?
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QUOTE(limys89 @ Oct 25 2018, 05:30 PM)
yes... should have gone for c30.. i recently did the same 70/40, just feel its not dark enough.. easily see thru
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Hi bro, can I know wats your interior color with 70/40?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 27 2018, 11:46 AM)
If you insist on film that can pass Puspakom, your best bet would be films with 90%, 70% and 50%VLT for fws, front side windows, and rear windows/rws - respectively.
Then, you will be jealous of your friend's ride with lower VLT films.
Do they cover the cost to send to puspakom and to re-tint?
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nop, they said cover everything except going to puspakom. basically summons.
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Hi bro, can I know wats your interior color with 70/40?
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my ride is cx5, basically interior is all black.. inside doesnt feel too dark or claustrophobic as the front 70 let in a good amount of light. brightens the car alot. only at noon, its hard to make out the inside from outside as there is a decent amount of glare n reflection. apart from that, anyone standing beside can easily make out what u keep inside.
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QUOTE(limys89 @ Nov 15 2018, 04:54 PM)
nop, they said cover everything except going to puspakom. basically summons.
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So, if kena tear out b4 sending to Puspakom, will they re-tint for you FOC?
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So, if kena tear out b4 sending to Puspakom, will they re-tint for you FOC?
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No, wont get free re-tint.
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Guys. Anybody has contact for good 3M installer with great price? Thnx
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Which branch of HO or 3M give better price? Was quoted rm2.6k for HO while rm2.2k for 3M, HO seems like more expensive than 3M now
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I installed 3m cr for all windows on my serena for 2.7k
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don't go for 3M unless u wanna get cheated. use other brands. i have been cheated by 3M
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B1 tech shop in Puchong quoted RM1900 for installing Crystalline on Proton Iriz and Proton Persona. Is this price normal?
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Anyone tinted with Huper Optik at Kepong branch?
Hows the workmanship?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jan 7 2019, 11:59 PM)
Anyone tinted with Huper Optik at Kepong branch?
Hows the workmanship?

Thanks.
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Rainbow Kepong?

My cars tinted at their shop, good workmanship thumbup.gif
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Rainbow Kepong?

My cars tinted at their shop, good workmanship thumbup.gif
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Good to hear that, Quazacolt.
What is your spec?

C70+C40?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jan 8 2019, 09:43 AM)
Good to hear that, Quazacolt.
What is your spec?

C70+C40?

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C40 + C30
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 8 2019, 03:11 PM)
C40 + C30
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Any picture ? Will it cause JPJ issue?
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Anyone tinted with Huper Optik at Kepong branch?
Hows the workmanship?

Thanks.
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I tinted my car with Huper Optik at SS2 PJ.. Coming to 7 years, no problem with the workmanship
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Any one have used 3M and HO before? I'm currently using 3M crystalline CR40 for all my except CR50 on front.. For my new car thinking of HO C30 on windows and C40 for front.. Will the heat rejection same as Crystalline? Or should I stick with 3M
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Jan 9 2019, 12:12 AM)
I tinted my car with Huper Optik at SS2 PJ.. Coming to 7 years, no problem with the workmanship
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I did my Huper tint in Ipoh; 6-1/2 years now and no issues with workmanship.
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I'm looking at Huper Optik tint too

C50 for front windscreen
C30 for the rest

Can anyone quote me?
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QUOTE(winron @ Jan 17 2019, 10:25 AM)
I'm looking at Huper Optik tint too

C50 for front windscreen
C30 for the rest

Can anyone quote me?
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I wan too...
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i m planning to use HO C30 all round for honda city 2018.
only 1 or 2 thing holding me back;
1. might be too dark and doesnt pass JPJ's criteria
2. night light might be bad for Front Wind screen causing bad visibility
any advice?
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QUOTE(Ekash @ Jan 17 2019, 08:55 PM)
I wan too...
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I found a very good quote. You can PM me if you want the contact details
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Currently surveying these 2 brands. 3M or Huper Optik film is smart tag friendly? Without the need to cut holes, etc..

Want to tint my mum's old car. Don't want her to get stuck at the smart tag lane.

My own car is using Raytech RX now. But I feel the heat rejection is bad.
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QUOTE(winron @ Jan 18 2019, 07:33 PM)
I found a very good quote. You can PM me if you want the contact details
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QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 24 2019, 10:59 AM)
Currently surveying these 2 brands. 3M or Huper Optik film is smart tag friendly? Without the need to cut holes, etc..

Want to tint my mum's old car. Don't want her to get stuck at the smart tag lane.

My own car is using Raytech RX now. But I feel the heat rejection is bad.
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Same question +1

Planning to replace front windscreen of my new CX5 but am very concerned if GPS and Smart Tag will be blocked if go for 3M or HO? what is the specific model that both will passthru....?

I'm staying at PJ by the way, so if there is any shop around here with good workmanship, please share with me. Much appreciated! smile.gif
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any recommendations place to install 3m tint around Puchong or subway area?
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QUOTE(spaceman @ Mar 2 2019, 06:27 PM)
Same question +1

Planning to replace front windscreen of my new CX5 but am very concerned if GPS and Smart Tag will be blocked if go for 3M or HO? what is the specific model that both will passthru....?

I'm staying at PJ by the way, so if there is any shop around here with good workmanship, please share with me. Much appreciated! smile.gif
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You try to get a small sample put over your smart tag and go through tolls and see if it blocks the reading.
If can pass, then proceed with that film. If fails, then look for other brand/series.
If you have auto gate, try that remote control too.

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I decided to go for llumar
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Anyone please share HO agent contact with me! Just now being quoted RM2900, stunned!! Prius.
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QUOTE(spaceman @ Mar 2 2019, 06:27 PM)
Same question +1

Planning to replace front windscreen of my new CX5 but am very concerned if GPS and Smart Tag will be blocked if go for 3M or HO? what is the specific model that both will passthru....?

I'm staying at PJ by the way, so if there is any shop around here with good workmanship, please share with me. Much appreciated! smile.gif
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never try 3m before, cannot advice much. Just tinted my car with HO for below spec, so far no issue on smart tag, GPS signal or card entrance scanning system (apartment guard house)

FWS: Ceramic 70
side: shield 40 6mil
RWS: Ceramic 30 + original Skytink (not sure the spec for skytint, my car is CX5)
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QUOTE(spaceman @ Mar 2 2019, 06:27 PM)
Same question +1

Planning to replace front windscreen of my new CX5 but am very concerned if GPS and Smart Tag will be blocked if go for 3M or HO? what is the specific model that both will passthru....?

I'm staying at PJ by the way, so if there is any shop around here with good workmanship, please share with me. Much appreciated! smile.gif
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Mine also CX5, tinted 3M CR60, GPS no problem, BUT smart tag failed. Drive slow (failed), Smart tag touch on windscreen corner side (failed), Change new battery (failed)

End up I open a hole, ugly but I live with it, and it reminds me I made a mistake bruce.gif
If you really want, you can ask them open a hole on top of the windscreen and put the dark visor stipe, and you wont notice it anymore.
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Mar 17 2018, 12:49 AM)
I can vouch for ho as well. A very happy user. My last experience with another brand was very dissapointing.

Like others I won't go for other brand anymore. Doesn't pay to be adventoruous. Wasted 3k on a so called branded tint based on paper spec.
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What is the branded tint 3k?
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Mar 13 2019, 11:16 AM)
What is the branded tint 3k?
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the one always give out vouchers when u buy cars

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any good contact for HO or 3M?
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Anyone got contact for 3m crystalline for a reasonable price?
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ May 10 2019, 12:36 AM)
any good contact for HO or 3M?
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if no one gives you a contact, you can just go to HO official websites.. there are lists of address of HO authorized installer all over malaysia..
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QUOTE(zeese @ May 10 2019, 02:49 PM)
if no one gives you a contact, you can just go to HO official websites.. there are lists of address of HO authorized installer all over malaysia..
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Thanks. I was thinking if anyone has good recommendation
But you are right. Huper has those reseller details online
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QUOTE(viper1912 @ Apr 5 2018, 02:03 PM)
I will fully support 3M Crystalline for the whole car.

Front CR50, rest CR40.
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where did you tinted your car?
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QUOTE(RisingTide @ Mar 26 2018, 12:54 AM)
You're right; In fact I just got my car tinted yesterday, C70 front and C40 side/rear; I saw C50 and was surprised that it was quite lightly tinted; hence I went for the C40, which turned out to be a slight shade darker than C50 and quite hard to differentiate in normal conditions.

Although, I did notice that my front windscreen C70 does make my front view looked a bit hazy, like there is a slight oil smear on your glasses, it makes the entire view looked a bit foggy and hazy; did you experience this with your SECH60?
I tinted mine for RM1,800 flat; including removal, installation and GST; workmanship was top notch; just the slight hazy front view is quite irritating, planning to follow-up with the installer next weekend.
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HO dealer recommendation?

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Why not try the new transition technology film, Hamel? So it will get dark when under the sun but will get lighter when dark. I'm curious to try it myself actually.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 7 2019, 11:21 PM)
Why not try the new transition technology film, Hamel? So it will get dark when under the sun but will get lighter when dark. I'm curious to try it myself actually.
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This film can transition from how clear to how dark?

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This film can transition from how clear to how dark?
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It has some grade/level also with different prices. If not mistaken the cheapest one goes up to max 50%.

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 8 2019, 09:36 AM)
It has some grade/level also with different prices. If not mistaken the cheapest one goes up to max 50%.
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Worth considering if they have different VLT especially for the front windows.
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I have 3M Crystalline installed across my F30. Front windscreen CR70, rear windscreen CR40, 4 windows SCR40 (Scothshield smash proof). So far the heat rejection has been quite impressive. Wished the visible light could be lower though but unfortunately for scothshield they only have SCR40 which is 40% VLT.
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QUOTE(budang @ Aug 8 2019, 05:13 PM)
I have 3M Crystalline installed across my F30. Front windscreen CR70, rear windscreen CR40, 4 windows SCR40 (Scothshield smash proof). So far the heat rejection has been quite impressive. Wished the visible light could be lower though but unfortunately for scothshield they only have SCR40 which is 40% VLT.
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How much you got charged?
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Btw I have installed Hamel photocromic tint on all 3 cars of mine and I like it. The tint can be up to 50% dark during the sun and enough to make your eyes comfortable without wearing sunglasses while at night it turns clear enough not to hamper your vision, probably around 25-30% dark only. I wouldn't bother trying other tints now that there's this type of tints.
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How much you got charged?
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I got a discount from one of the forummer here, and paid total 2k. Walk in customer would be around 2.8 for my configuration.
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QUOTE(budang @ Oct 2 2019, 08:07 PM)
I got a discount from one of the forummer here, and paid total 2k. Walk in customer would be around 2.8 for my configuration.
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Great price. I paid 2.7k for same configuration (except front is CR60) for City.

 

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