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 Suprima vs Mark X vs Inspira, Suprima vs Mark X vs Inspira

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SleeplessEyes
post Mar 10 2018, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(skrtskrt @ Mar 9 2018, 01:15 AM)
I see, is it better in the suprima? And if I use the shift paddles will it be any different?
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I drive an Exora (same gearbox and engine as Suprima, minus the paddle shifter option)
My dad drives a City Idsi and a HRV. Both also CVTs. I have to admit that Honda CVT are better than Protons.
My dad's City have a paddle shifter but to be honest its better to let your right foot tell the accelerator what you want rather than shifting yourself. The accelerator takes in your command and tells the gearbox what you want. Thats where CVT and most hated Drive-by-Wire accelerator does the job for u.
paddle shifting have fixed gear ratios. Kills the whole purpose of having infinite gear ratio.

For my exora. Sometimes i switch on the SAT mode just to feel the virtual gear shifts and the virtual engine rev up and down. In real life it hampers / slows down the acceleration. (And i have to press harder just to get it moving. Can feel the turbo working harder to push the 1.5 ton MPV with SAT mode on)

Yes i know older CVT makes driving rather boring / souless. But newer CVT nowdays have virtual shifting (like in the HRV) points even without turning on the SAT mode.
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post Mar 12 2018, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(skrtskrt @ Mar 11 2018, 02:43 AM)
Thanks for the insight smile.gif . So I take it the suprima's cvt will be sluggish as well regardless of whether it's the suprima or inspira sad.gif  is your exora the turbo one? If so how's the maintenance of it? Do you have to spend alot to fix parts related to the turbo and how much do spend yearly on maintenance? Very curious. Thanks
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Hi there.
Yup. Mine is turbo version.
In regards to turbo. They call for the usual every 10k / 6 mths for oil change or 5K / 3 months if you are driving mainly around town frequently. Its just like maintaining a regular car although recommended to use semi synthetic oil and above. No special requirements though if the engine oil is too black you better off change it quickly before it damages the turbo.

And if u ask do i spend alot to fix the turbo the answerr is "no" smile.gif. Im still on my original turbo even after 4 yrs later.

To answer your question to ayamxxx whether is it underpower. For my exora turbo , its capable of catching up with 2000cc and above. 205nm of turbo charged torque plus CVT makes it a real challenger. Its not slow either.
The reason why initial acceleration from 0km/h to 20km /h is slow acceleration is because the initial clutch slip . Yes. Suprima / Exora has a maintenance free wet clutch for the CVT. Therefore it will slip first then only it bites around 15km/h.
But once it engages fully with the turbo kick in then you wont say its slow anymore.

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post Mar 15 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(skrtskrt @ Mar 15 2018, 01:02 AM)
Okay thank you for the explanation it really helps. So your average yearly maintenance costs is around 1-2k? Thanks
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Hi skrtskrt,

I found this in Proton website:

http://www.proton-edar.com.my/pdf/service-...vice%20Menu.pdf

This will give a good estimation on how much it costs. But i dont feel it will reach Rm 1k per annum.

It depends on how much you use.

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