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post Mar 13 2018, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(zhiyonng @ Mar 7 2018, 11:42 AM)
Hi guys,

Been looking around lately at tyres for my Myvi as i'm planning on changing my stock tyres soon and mostly because i just changed my rims haha. Currently on 185 55 15 Goodyear TMA and i'm planning to go to 195 55's.

So, I came across this tyre Yokohama BluEarth ES32 after looking around alot and there are less reviews in Malaysia but based on reviews from Tyre Reviews UK, it's overall a great tyre. Not noisy, great handling in both wet and dry conditions, great fuel effienciency and long lasting but i would like to hear more from users who have used these tyres in Malaysia.

My choices currently is

1). Yokohama BluEarth ES32

2) Viking Protech PT5 (tempting as its reviews has been good too for cheap tyres but i don't want my tyres to be too noisy)

3) Continental CC6

4) Westlake RP18

5) Michelin PS3

Hope i get the answers i'm looking for  biggrin.gif  icon_idea.gif
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If you're planning to go with 195/55/15 and since you're looking for great handling AND quietness, then I'd suggest to get the Hankook V12 Evo 2. If you want great handling in both dry & wet, all the tires in your list except PS3 would not be really in that category, while PS3 even though great handling especially in the wet but to some people it's a bit noisy (even though to me it's still fine), and of course very expensive. Now this V12E2 is on the same level of performance as PS3, maybe even better in the dry with just slightly less in the aquaplaning resistance BUT it also has the rare combination of being relatively quiet for UHP tire category, plus it's way much cheaper too (only around rm170-180/pc for this size), hence best value for money as of now. FYI, in the latest test in the US, this V12E2 was compared to the big 4 top performance tires of the world: PS4S (not just PS4 ya), Continental Extreme Contact Sport (similar to CSC6), the latest Pirelli P Zero PZ4, and Goodyear F1A3. Surprisingly at least this humble much cheaper V12E2 can beat the F1A3 even though not the other big 3 (but it's in the ball park already)! Note also in that test, this V12E2 came out as the most silent, only registering a very low 66db which is extraordinary even if for mid range comfort level tires, never mind UHP tires! I'm also currently using both V12E2 and PS3, and I can concur with that test finding that at least this V12E2 is a very good tire indeed!

Below is the link of the test result done by the popular Car & Driver magazine in the US:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

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post Mar 18 2018, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(regnox @ Mar 16 2018, 09:07 AM)
This tire got three speed rating rated for 195/65r15
T,H,V
T 190
H 210
V 240
How they make it diff anyone can shed some light on this
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Probably the construction and materials is made to withstand higher load and temperature that can be reached as the speed gets higher.
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post Mar 22 2018, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Mar 22 2018, 02:21 PM)
can try kumho ps31, got it for 120 per pcs on lazada, grip level feels like ps3 to me (just changed from ps3 few days ago)

i bought this es32 for my gf's myvi, can't really tell the performance because i have it on the rear only
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Kumho PS31 is not that good actually, not even true UHP tire (despite Kumho claiming it to be). PS3 is no doubt way much better. Also sometimes Kumho in general got quality issues, already seen a few reports of Kumho getting pregnant/bulging. Hopefully won't happen on yours.
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post Mar 24 2018, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Mar 24 2018, 12:19 PM)
well i have personally tried it in genting, i guess for less than half the price i could just get another pair if anything happens

considering my ps3s grip fell dramtically after 50%
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If anything happens then just buy different tires la. laugh.gif
Once tires is below 50% of course the grip will drop, that happens for all tires.
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post Sep 12 2018, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 2 2018, 12:45 AM)
Original size will always bring the best balance between fuel economy & comfort, if the owner is not doing high speed corners 175/65/R15 should be no issue.
Besides that, original rim width may not be suitable to install wider tires; if tires too wide compare to the rim also will impact the car handling.
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QUOTE(chezza @ Sep 4 2018, 09:37 PM)
I’m using my original rim, i am also no expert in tyres, it’s better i stick to the original size to avoid any unnecessary issues. But in future when i change my rims and tyres, i will definitely consider getting wider width, bigger rim size and lower profile tyres.
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QUOTE(AlittleCb @ Sep 11 2018, 08:58 PM)
I'm using stock rim and tyre too for my honda city. Before this was considering between es32 , cc6 and xm2. But ofcuz due to the price i giv a pass for xm2 and es32 is kinda hard to find too. So at the end i bought cc6 4 pcs at size 195/55/r15... Will be installing this coming sat... lets exchg our review maybe i might consider es32 back the next time =)
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This is the fourth gen Honda City right (year 2002-2008)? If that's the case, actually can use 195/55/15 and best to buy the Hankook V12 Evo2, much better than all those tires you have mentioned and bought while being about the same price or even cheaper! I bought exactly that same size for only rm170/pc just over a month ago.

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post Sep 12 2018, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 12 2018, 09:43 AM)
Bro, you are comparing 2 different tire category.

Hankook V12 Evo 2 is UHP Summer tire
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Hankook/...us-V12-evo2.htm

Yokohama BluEarth ES32 is Premium Touring Summer tire
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Yokohama...rth-Es-ES32.htm

Not all people are like you going around fast corners or performance orientated.
If normal person like me who enjoy comfort drive with good fuel efficiency i will always choose the tire range that suit me.

If you want a direct competition against your tire choice, Yokohama Advan (Neova/Fleva) range should be suitable for that.
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I know those are 2 different categories. The thing is the V12E2 is also comfortable with soft sidewall and silent (tested 67db noise level only), just like those mid-range touring tires. So with this tire you have better performance grip while not sacrificing those comfort criteria, plus the durability is also pretty good. That's why it's the better option even for those who prioritize comfort.
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post Sep 12 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 12 2018, 02:34 PM)
Bro, performance tire sure got better grip but still you will still loss in term of fuel efficiency & comfort as V12E2 is built for performance at first.

Lets compare 195/50/R15 via blackcircles website

https://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/h...-v12-evo-2-k120

Hankook Euro Tyre Label Rating

Fuel Efficiency - E , Wet Grip - B, Noise - 71Db

https://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/y...a/bluearth-es32

Yokohama Euro Tyre Label Rating

Fuel Efficiency - C , Wet Grip - B, Noise - 68Db

For other size Hankook V12E2 can get better wet grip, but still fuel efficiency rating & noise level still unable to compete againts Yokohama as Yokohama design this tire for fuel efficiency & comfort.
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As I said, the V12E2 actually has been tested to just produce 67db noise level instead of the rating of 71db that you stated above. That 67db puts it on par with most mid-range silent tires already. Even though maybe still a tad more noisy and maybe consume a bit more fuel but the difference should be marginal compared to noticeably higher performance grip that it provides, hence IMO give & take, the V12E2 provides the better balance of all criteria while costing as cheap if not cheaper too. Anyway different people may have different views on what is the better "balance" of those criteria, so yeah can be subjective too.
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 12 2018, 10:41 PM)
I am not sure how you get your noise level, but from my experience these noise level provided by tire makers are taken in lab test and consider external noise not in car environment.
If the tire noise at outside is louder, for sure in car environment is more quieter due to noise insulation.
Anyway you do have your opinion in term of hankook tires, but take note that not all people are fancy about performance tire as each tire type also got their pro & con.
In the end is about the owner want to choose more comfort, fuel efficient base tire or performance type tires, there is no single tire model which can satisfy all people.
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That one was tested last year by Car & Driver magazine. I'm also using that tire now and I do concur that it's pretty silent.
Yes there's always pro & con, nothing is perfect but we try to get the most balanced criteria for street tires. I do admit that I focus a lot more on performance aspect but if we can get noticeably higher performance with marginal sacrifice in comfort then that should be like an icing on the cake already, especially since performance is more about grip and grip is the main function of tires as it provides extra safety margin, hence why I prioritize this aspect more than the others.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 13 2018, 02:04 PM)
just sit my colleague's car with Yokohama Advan Fleva. That tyre is so unbearable noisy even on 20km/h gliding, it's like car without sound insulation. He said it's already noisy like this since new.
I would've choose silent comfort low performance tyre over high performance noisy tyre, unless drive with ear buds, lol.
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Well I'm not sure about the Fleva and I never recommended that also since there is the V12E2. smile.gif The V12E2 on the other hand is silent to me.
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post Sep 25 2018, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(chezza @ Sep 20 2018, 07:50 PM)
...Wasn’t looking for performance tyre as i don’t really speed nor harsh cornering. Even though i do speed from time to time but nothing extreme, I’m mostly a well behaved and responsible driver on the road.
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It's not so much speeding or being irresponsible driver but a good set of high performance tires actually brings up the level of safety margin by providing more grip in the wet and dry while being more controllable as well when approaching and over the limit of grip (which you may have to face when faced with emergency maneuver situations). smile.gif
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QUOTE(free2d @ Mar 5 2021, 12:36 AM)
Driving W204 C-class with front 225/45R17 and rear 245/40R17.
Rear size a bit difficult to find. Was planning for Primacy4 but rear no such size.
So a few choices here. What are the reviews for these?
RE003 scare noisy n hard,
PS4 expensive,
Yoko ES32 maybe?
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That size still pretty common actually.
Get Goodyear F1 Sport, better in the wet, last longer and should be more silent than RE003, cheaper than PS4, surely better overall than ES32 or Primacy 4.
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post Apr 9 2021, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Apr 9 2021, 12:07 PM)
Better in term of performance as F1 sport is under UHP tire, if about comfort or silent it will be another story.
Different tires model got different purpose to suit different driver needs.
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Many UHP tires now can already closely match comfort and silence of touring tires. Based on what I heard, the F1S is entry level UHP which is softer and more silent than PS4 so should be pretty close to touring tires too. My experience with the higher UHP and older F1A2 was already pretty comfortable and silent.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Apr 9 2021, 01:17 PM)
UHP tires tend to have stiffer sidewall & rubber compound which is more sticky or grip on the road.
These 2 will impact comfort, fuel economy and also the tire noise especially on bad road condition.
Even with new treads design in reducing tire noise, still it will got some gap between UHP & comfort base tires which are design purposely for different group of people.

If you want to go more towards all rounder the suitable model from Goodyear should be Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 or comfort base like EfficientGrip model.
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F1A5 is a half a class higher than F1S! F1A5 is line ball match up with PS4. Not all UHP have stiff sidewall, some actually a bit soft too like V12E2 and some actually matching the silence of touring category like V12E2 and F1A2/3. Fuel economy differences is negligible.

 

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