Find a shaman with more spell dmg? Any shaman on this forum in pve gear has close to 800 spell dmg or even close pls speak up. That is rare. And mage is wearing pvp gear? Respecced for pvp? U by just saying that i know u LACK INSIGHT. gratz on ur cluelessness. lol ur just a tool laughable at best. Again l2p. Dude its 5man. U dun need to tank n spank trash mobs pls. Get it out of ur big fat moronic head. MOB DIE IN 5SECS TANK WHAT? LOL. And i brought ur guild progression to show UR LACK OF EXPERIENCE in any form of raiding which ur lacking hence ur stubborness. Ya n u speak u dun do kara and in some other post u talk of ur curator fights being 5-6mins long? Again quit trying to brag or as a maater of fact save face. Sure find me 1million guilds that are on my guild progression. And besides its urs against mine. U might as well bring nihilium into ey? Grow a pair of balls and use urself as an eg. Ur server for 1 has only 2? lol. And again my guild only raid 3 days a week and we're casual wif most members working full time jobs. That alone shows the amount of quality we have. U being w/o any real hand experience on what raiding is trying to chalk up claims of what-not hahahaha seriously is funny. And stop using ppl kill this and blah blah blah when ur not doing it. Saying personaly kara is not hard but u cant find 9ppl who has ur vision is just shifting the blame. U have 3 protection tanks at least so far LOL. Still tryin to gear themselves up? hahahaha. Seriously ur digging urself deeper into shame. Maybe u run ur heroics with other ppl rather ur guild that's y u "claim" u can do everything. But in all seriousness, gear plays a shitload in heroics, and judging from ur guild's gear or just urs alone compared to mine its simply LOL? But maybe u fully raid buff urself just for heroics hahaha. I most definitely can tank while eating fried rice if i have u as my dps. If u dun have anything to back urself u just need to stfu n be quiet cos again ur talk has nothing to show for. U have no gear to show for. U have no guild to show for. Therefore u have nothing to prove for. If any1 has a clue on who to believe, its pretty damn obvious aint it. lol.

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Added on May 9, 2007, 10:44 amNo my healer is a druid. Yes i'm glad finally someone agreed. Healing one person is way simpler than healing 2. The whole idea is to create easeness n simplicity running 5mans. And u get that if u optimise what the other classes can do with their skills n dmg. Y couldnt quazacolt just reply in a frenly manner is beyond me.


This post has been edited by Kurei: May 9 2007, 10:44 AM

i dont think you sounded friendly too =)

Well he decided to start lashing out at me so hell y not be as frank as we can about one another right? If my earlier opinions provoked him to do so, it was nvr meant to. but now, hmmm the posts speaks for itself.

GIEF POPCORN!

Actually i don't know what the fight is about so I'll just throw in with a random comment

Seriously though, why try tanking everything when they can be CC/Kited/dance. Tanking these days is not about keeping aggro on every single mob, it's about trusting your team mates to do more than just pressing 1 button to dps in an instance. Some heroic mobs will 2 shot you if you try taking more than 1 on at a time. So don't.

It's easier healing one target, it's also easier healing one target that's not getting damaged by every single mob in the pull.

edit: I play minesweeper, drink beer, eat soup noodles, smoke and multibox while tanking !

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: May 9 2007, 12:16 PM

get hit every hit then GG eidi la.. it's so true, a favour to both priest n tank actually.. plate repair n hard time + population of the priest.

best rogue are known as mt assist, but some of them love to kie kiang tank solo mob. demand heal summore, die or vanish bring trouble to tank or party or raid.

lock solo different story, they dot dot dot fear dot dot dot fear, 4eva the best cc ~ yayaya

y no more drama? post some make some noise..

=.= if i let my tank see i pm-ing or daydreaming, i sure kena poke right away b4/after he die...

This post has been edited by Gladys: May 9 2007, 12:48 PM

Glad there are ppl who share my point of view. =p

touche!

yeah true. although sometimes no choice. i'm stuck in a dilemma of not bringing too many melee players and having to be one of the few guild healers who are on most of the time. want time to rest also cannot. pugging isn't so nice lately.

although, kurei, do you reckon that players will be geared enough one day that it's possible to have tank + melee DPS + healer group for heroics?

it is not to say impossible.... even with blues u still can do heroics with melees, but its hell of hard. i did heroics with an enhance shaman and a rogue together before, where i am the healer. it's really challenging

y not possible?

have 2 melee are always great like clearning totem or stun da fella let tank taunt back when mage GG crit 10k..stunlock even great + blackout

my party always have a picklock rogue or hybrid druid.. <3

manage to get a prot paladin in our guild to spec holy... from useless turn to friggin godlike... lolz...

wa ur at port klang so far? lol... why no supermarket le, they seem to be anywhere nowdays, maybe except for those really remote kampungs... what about cinema? just go buy 1 pack lolz.

It's a case of l2p my dear. tank+healer+randoms. Just take people you enjoy playing with. In the case of a dr00d healer bring someone else who can res ^^

supermarket pun taklak di where to find cinema.. apasal u also go suft sggirl.com now brain koyak eh?

edited for greater justice.

no nid la, mimi good healing, no one will die. brez also no nid.

No comment

ya it is possible for certain heroics even now. Just more difficult but it is a nice challenge.

your the one that link the profile, if anyone's lacking insight, its you for not forseeing this. and that mage in pvp spec? grats on being even clueless for linking that friend of yours then lmao.

and sure, dont tank and spank then. go kite bosses or w/e. im sure that really worked out for you as you 2 shot heroic bosses. damn pro right here
/lolsarcasmlol

and sorry, guild progression when your not at the top of the list doesnt mean shit, everything is been done and strats are all over the net. if you think it does mean anything, good for you, but honestly, you'll just get laughed at when ur trying to bring it into any sort of measurement.

whats even worse is claiming people that dont have decent progression or whatever lacks experience is even laughable. if thats the case, then pretty much a HUGE majority of lyn people dont have experience at all? i think not. imho the higher end raiding is not much of a difference in the basic wow game play anyways. with the strats of each fights being different and different mechanic here and there.

and wow... when did i EVER said i dun do kara? seriously, quote that shit to me, including date and post url, i REALLY wanna see that.

and am i bringing other guilds progression in to the picture? dont think so, i didnt even bring my own guild's progression into the picture. you have 10 people, or 25 people that are good, good for you, you make progression. not everyone can bring together 10/25 good and dedicated people together. until you start forming your own guild, you have no say in this. hell, many people/guilds including some in lyn also face the same problem. so if you really think its you doing it all, think again.

and pretty sure i dont go around claiming who kills what. theres someone that does that around this forum but im not naming names.

i wont deny im shifting the blame, i really am. but again, until your in charge of guilds and raids, you really have no say in this, thank you. and oh wow you suddenly know how many prot tanks i have... 3 right? ill tell you how many prot tanks we have right now, 1. way to f***ing lose that one.

and ill be honest, i dont run all my heroics with my guildies. they either dont show when there isnt raid or they dont go heroics. thats their choice, while i can just pug it up and do it anyways. not really a big deal.

if you really want proof that bad, ill just screenshot my dps for you this coming friday. no big deal. after all nothing can deny hard numbers.

kidi: not to say that everything has to be tanked and not cc/kite etc. theres always an option and every group has their preference and advantage in certain methods.

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Added on May 9, 2007, 5:04 pmnever go port klang how to know lol... and i dunno what site is that, prolly best to not open... very busy at work today... kena tembak by boss too QQ

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 9 2007, 05:04 PM

somoene figured it out.
hope it still works after patch

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well. most ppl have different opinions about effective heroic instance parties. usually my party consists of warrior, mage, warlock/hunter,holy priest and rogue(me, and i don't share the loots from chests i lockpick /gg). i don't think i'm a mana drain to the healer cos i'm more focused on stun locking than dps. its either i'm assisting the tank or range assist me while my target stay stunned for 10 secs( mutilate rogues generate combopoints fast) and if i get hit, its usually 1 hit KO crit anyway, meaning i don't get heal at all.

mage threat> rogue, so if it get released from stunlock, it'll b running towards the mage 20-30 yards away and die before it reaches anyone.(i use crippling poison to play extra safe, but usually i don't)

anyway, most parties are still going to bring at least 1 rogue for chest loot and shattered halls locked door b4 the first boss i rkn, cos back in the day i get b****ed at so often cos of having <100 skill in lockpicking and couldn't unlock chests(didn't have the time cos i reached lvl 60 just b4 BC)

an observation from my guildie who was pugging a group through normal SL. might work in heroics.

3 pallys together. 1 tank + 2 healing him. that tank was holding 5-6 mobs at one time. remaining party spots were taking by a rogue + mage. free run.

high dps team right there, but i guess ur on the cc'ing role to ease off the healer...

i usually run with 2 healers to be on the safer side, and less stress for that one healer too anyways. (everyone gotta have some fun right? )

and thats an interesting point, especially if ur mutilate/assassination, you get QR, and healers LOVES QR lol... renews on me are usually 800-900/tick... and good priests do it for over 1k/tick... really not hard to heal. and the healers get to have their occassion epeen flaring with QR (or lock fel armor anyways) highest heals i got is 999x, almost 10k... from a druid healing touch crit. dont even have that much hp

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Added on May 9, 2007, 8:43 pmthat is like one disgusting male orgy fest...

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 9 2007, 08:43 PM

well, still makes it an interesting read. i like hearing of different styles.

another i heard was that a mage tanking and a rogue DPSing from behind, running around as well. they were running instances like this in Frostmourne. had problems finding a tank so they did it this way.

least they are running instances, better than nothing

still 3 pala in a group makes a very gay image in my head

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 10 2007, 08:52 AM