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TSinvest2229
post Mar 4 2018, 03:31 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi,

Looking a property but concern about the TNB power cable distance just about 80 meters away. This safe to the health or what is the recommended distance from this TNB power cable?

The high tension cable is I'm refer to following type :

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post Mar 4 2018, 04:17 PM

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If u r concerned....already bad feng shui for tis property....
Dun buy.

Safety measure some ppl said 150mtr some said no sciemtific found bla bla bla.....


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post Mar 4 2018, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 4 2018, 04:17 PM)
If u r concerned....already bad feng shui for tis property....
Dun buy.

Safety measure some ppl said 150mtr some said no sciemtific found bla bla bla.....
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Thanks Feng Shui master for advise.. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2018, 09:16 PM

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As long you see it as eyesore, don't buy as the subsale buyers ll hiam in future.

There r just aplenty options out there, need not lock ourselves into potential difficult situation.
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post Mar 4 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Mar 4 2018, 09:16 PM)
As long you see it as eyesore, don't buy as the subsale buyers ll hiam in future.

There r just aplenty options out there, need not lock ourselves into potential difficult situation.
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The reason I'm looking for this property is because of good price at good location. I plan this for rent.
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post Mar 4 2018, 09:24 PM

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Got some organisations that say it is very bad for your health, but based on their own definition of bad health, 95% of the world is over exposed to em(the rays from power cable)

So... take it with a grain of salt.

You should worry more about the negative placebo effect. Its very potent one, so dont underestimate that.
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post Mar 4 2018, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 4 2018, 09:22 PM)
The reason I'm looking for this property is because of good price at good location. I plan this for rent.
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Exactly why seller sell cheap?
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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 4 2018, 09:22 PM)
The reason I'm looking for this property is because of good price at good location. I plan this for rent.
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Is the same bro. People has higher awareness / tend to compare nowadays, be it rent or stay. A good investment needs to be good for stay as well, and vice versa.
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post Mar 5 2018, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 4 2018, 03:31 PM)
Hi,

Looking a property but concern about the TNB power cable distance just about 80 meters away. This safe to the health or what is the recommended distance from this TNB power cable?

The high tension cable is I'm refer to following type :

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Recommended distance is 2km

Health concern will be cancer especially in children as they are at home most of the time.

Property within 2km radius are usually sold for industrial use, that is why all property within 2km radius are service apartment as they cannot be approved under residential title



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post Mar 5 2018, 09:49 AM

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Property within 2km radius are usually sold for industrial use, that is why all property within 2km radius are service apartment as they cannot be approved under residential title
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Dude, wtf you talking about? whistling.gif
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post Mar 5 2018, 10:32 AM

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maybe not answering your question but good info also

http://www.st.gov.my/index.php/download-pa...nlalu-reprint02
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post Mar 5 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 4 2018, 09:22 PM)
The reason I'm looking for this property is because of good price at good location. I plan this for rent.
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Cheap is because of the Tenaga Nasional HTC.. Many people don't want the property.. Thus owner desperate to sell cheap..
Simple as that..
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post Mar 5 2018, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Mar 5 2018, 12:05 AM)
Recommended distance is 2km

Health concern will be cancer especially in children as they are at home most of the time.

Property within 2km radius are usually sold for industrial use, that is why all property within 2km radius are service apartment as they cannot be approved under residential title
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Hmm sure 2KM??

Have seen houses (landed) just 500m beside only.. Heck its double storey house leh 😕
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post Mar 5 2018, 02:09 PM

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There is no guidelines that I can find regarding safe distance.

A high voltage transmission line can theoretically pose 3 types of hazards - the electric current, magnetic field and electric field. (of course you can include falling over due to tornado, earthquake, ultraman etc.)

The first one, the electric current, is usually taken care of by putting the wires at least 10 m from the ground. So the current will not 'jump' from wire to ground.
As long as the furthest point of the house structure is 10 m away, should be safe from electric shocks. Unless you like fireworks.
This is why houses, trees, cars etc should not be directly under a tower, unless you install a safety wire net.

For magnetic and electric fields, all measurement so far indicate low values, and lead to conclusion that these two are not issues. You probably get more exposure from your computer, tv and frigde, all which have powerful magnets.

The claim that high voltage wires are danger is due to a couple of observations that the incidence of one type of childhood leukemia is higher in population residing close to high voltage poles. These are associative studies, and are difficult to replicate or proved.

The most comprehensive meta-study that I found (sorry, forgot the link) has these points to offer:
From 0 to 50m, there appears to be a statistically significant link between childhood leukemia n high voltage
Between 50 to 150 m, the data is inconsistent, no pattern can be seen
Above 150m, there is no effect

Again, the data is associative. There can be other confounding factors that were not obvious. This sort of analysis are designed to find 'effect' and are not good to show " no effect"

Some high- end residental areas in klang valley are built near HTC, but still BBB. Matter of perception. I do agree that a large portion of us will tend to avoid HTC due to perception.




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post Mar 5 2018, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Shir L @ Mar 4 2018, 11:09 PM)
i have been hearing from a lot of ppl to not buy any property which is near to any power station or tat photo tat u show~
with that, i dun think anybody will rent the unit from you though..

u probably wanna check on the occupancy of tat project n see wat those ppl staying there feel about it. project/market research required  unsure.gif
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There is the prime area, old house build more than 20 years ago. The distance to power station is about 80 meters away. Still can see many peoples staying there even nearest (40 meters) to high tension cable.
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post Mar 5 2018, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Fazab @ Mar 5 2018, 02:09 PM)
There is no guidelines that I can find regarding safe distance.

A high voltage transmission line can theoretically pose 3 types of hazards - the electric current, magnetic field and electric field. (of course you can include falling over due to tornado, earthquake, ultraman etc.)

The first one, the electric current, is usually taken care of by putting the wires at least 10 m from the ground. So the current will not 'jump' from wire to ground.
As long as the furthest point of the house structure is 10 m away, should be safe from electric shocks. Unless you like fireworks.
This is why houses, trees, cars etc should not be directly under a tower, unless you install a safety wire net.

For magnetic and electric fields, all measurement so far indicate low values, and lead to conclusion that these two are not issues. You probably get more exposure from your computer, tv and frigde, all which have powerful magnets.

The claim that high voltage wires are danger is due to a couple of observations that the incidence of one type of childhood leukemia is higher in population residing close to high voltage poles. These are associative studies, and are difficult to replicate or proved.

The most comprehensive meta-study that I found (sorry, forgot the link) has these points to offer:
From 0 to 50m, there appears to be a statistically significant link between childhood leukemia n high voltage
Between 50 to 150 m, the data is inconsistent, no pattern can be seen
Above 150m, there is no effect

Again, the data is associative. There can be other confounding factors that were not obvious. This sort of analysis are designed to find 'effect' and are not good to show " no effect"

Some high- end residental areas in klang valley are built near HTC, but still BBB. Matter of perception. I do agree that a large portion of us will tend to avoid HTC due to perception.
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Thanks for your analysis. The distance is about 80 meters away from high tension cable. So per the guideline that you shared is almost no effect?


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post Mar 6 2018, 12:38 AM

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80 m will be in the 50 to 150 m grey zone 'unknown', 'not enuf data'.
If for rent, I will consider what the target tenant. Workers, students will probably dun care, as long as cheap.
Families with young children might think twice n do research.
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post Mar 6 2018, 12:44 AM

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for rent, i think its ok. dont think so much.
the house/condo have metal in the middle of wall, and act as a barrier/faraday cage

if paranoid, this is what you can do:

1. all window should have metalilic tint, connect to ground.
2. connect the structure reebar to ground
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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Mar 5 2018, 12:05 AM)
Recommended distance is 2km

Health concern will be cancer especially in children as they are at home most of the time.

Property within 2km radius are usually sold for industrial use, that is why all property within 2km radius are service apartment as they cannot be approved under residential title
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Huh?

Service apartment residents less valuable tham resi title residents?
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post Mar 6 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Mar 6 2018, 12:44 AM)
for rent, i think its ok. dont think so much.
the house/condo have metal in the middle of wall, and act as a barrier/faraday cage

if paranoid, this is what you can do:

1. all window should have metalilic tint, connect to ground.
2. connect the structure reebar to ground
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When owner want to sell the property future on..
Its gonna be problems.. Must think about that too 😑
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post Mar 6 2018, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Mar 6 2018, 12:44 AM)
for rent, i think its ok. dont think so much.
the house/condo have metal in the middle of wall, and act as a barrier/faraday cage

if paranoid, this is what you can do:

1. all window should have metalilic tint, connect to ground.
2. connect the structure reebar to ground
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Thanks for your sharing. Look like you have such experience to manage your property under this environment?
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post Mar 6 2018, 01:59 PM

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How about those shoplot/office which nearby HTC? Ppl work there 8-10 hours a day...
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post Mar 6 2018, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 6 2018, 08:10 AM)
When owner want to sell the property future on..
Its gonna be problems.. Must think about that too 😑
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Agreed with your opinion. That will be potential difficulty in future if want to sell. cry.gif

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post Mar 6 2018, 02:06 PM

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I'm still in the junction of making decision.

This is double storey terest, main purpose is to buy for rental investment .

To buy :
- Good location
- Reasonable good price
- Future growth. In another 3-4 years, the huge shopping complex will be ready. It just 500 meters away.

Why not buy :
- 80 meters away from high tension cable
- Old house (20 - 25 years)

If you were me, will you consider this property and why?

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 6 2018, 02:06 PM)
I'm still in the junction of making decision.

This is double storey terest, main purpose is to buy for rental investment .

To buy :
- Good location
- Reasonable good price
- Future growth. In another 3-4 years, the huge shopping complex will be ready. It just 500 meters away.

Why not buy :
- 80 meters away from high tension cable
- Old house (20 - 25 years)

If you were me, will you consider this property and why?
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HTC + Old house = Confirmed BIG NO

reason:

Old house = high maintenances..

HTC = well u know health risk


if house less then 10yo & HTC like around 500m away, maybe can consider to buy sweat.gif
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post Mar 6 2018, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 6 2018, 06:20 PM)
HTC + Old house = Confirmed BIG NO

reason:

Old house = high maintenances..

HTC = well u know health risk
if house less then 10yo & HTC like around 500m away, maybe can consider to buy  sweat.gif
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What if the projection the house appreciation up 50% over 5 years time exclude rental collection. Will you consider?

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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Mar 6 2018, 06:52 PM)
What if the projection the house appreciation up 50% over 5 years time exclude rental collection.  Will you consider?
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this only on projection or prediction NOT based on real data.
for me i will not consider

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Seberang jaya has multiple htc network. i guess if want to find house there, i have no choice.

 

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