Hey guys! I'm a SPM graduate and will be studying Diploma of CS in TARUC in May 2018.

The problem is, I'm not quite sure what to do after finishing my 2nd year diploma. My questions is, should I stay and pursue a degree at TARUC....or should I move to UTAR instead?

I know it's still too early to panic, but I feel like taking everything into consideration is quite important when it comes to making decisions like this.....Not a big fan of regrets either.

Since I can't afford any other well known unis like APU,MMU and others..(I'm BROKE)..I'm only choosing between those two that I mentioned which is TARUC or UTAR.

I've heard some rumors against both unis i.e:

1.( 'TARUC's degree is relatively new, so the degree structure won't be as solid as others' ) or ( 'TARUC's cert isn't as valuable when you're searching for jobs as a fresh grad' )

2. ( 'UTAR has a much higher fail rate and students there have a really hard time trying to pass certain subjects' )


I'm writing this hoping to find out some information and comparisons between the degree in CS offered by both TARUC and UTAR.

I hope this post will finally solve my issue and perhaps help out others too

BIG thanks to anybody who are willing to spend time and kind enough to share their opinion on this topic!!

Well, enough said, let the debates begin!!

WHICH ONE OF THE UNIS IS MORE SUPERIOR WHEN IT COMES TO DEGREE IN COMPUTER SCIENCE?? TARUC / UTAR

This post has been edited by Je Ping: Mar 1 2018, 01:08 AM

Admission
TARC to utar requires to go through credits transfer. A common term uses to determine how many subjects u get exempted from diploma's subject syllabus. (you won't graduate less than 3 years)

TARC to TARC straight forward as 2nd year student to study 2 more years to graduate, simple as that.

Course Strcture
From what I can tell, the both course structures pretty same (not sure about syllabus though).
CS in utar allows you to determine the specialist pathway even you want to mix these subjects anyhow you like, e.g. ai, software engineering or networking. (You get to bid what subjects to study for coming semester)

TARC don't allow you to do so, as they fixed you to one direction (software engineering), that is the reason you will have S.E in your CS graduate title from tarc, instead of general CS title from utar. (They arranged subject and class schedule, just like high school and element school )

Examination Policy
Both coursework and final exam components must be 50% or more.
TARC requires student to achieve at least 50% of coursework mark in order to attend final examination.
Fail to achieve the coursework = see you next semester, best quote from lecturer.
Final examination needs to achieve at least 50% mark in order to pass the subject.
Fail to achieve, you get 1 chance to resit for examination coming semester. If fail this time mean you retake the subject.

40% minimum mark from final to pass, both combine must be more than 50.
Utar requires student to have both coursework and final combined must be more than 50%. (You get to attend the final exam no matter how low your mark is)
Regardless how high your coursework mark is, you still need to have 40% of final exam in order to pass.
Fail to achieve, straight retake, no resit.

Timetable
Copy paste from my previous post.


There are many pretty girls in utar and high fail rate as students cannot concentrate to study, both statements are true.

I would say not to worry about the exams. Should pass if you put in a bit of effort unless you're really not suited for CS. It's a common phenomenon that CS usually produces double hump distributions in terms of examination results. You'll score if you get it or you'll do badly if you don't.

Saying that, universities in Malaysia are geared to help students pass these days. You really don't deserve a degree if you fail.

Yes, what I can tell is, effort does matter, but not die die memorizing, this doesn’t work in problem solving.

For real?! From my perspective, most people seem like don’t paying effort to study.
So far I know that Malaysia university’s syllabus isn’t as depth as western countries, where there is so called as “average standard”. E.g. data structure subject.

Data structures should be a very basic subject.

The problem in Malaysia is that many courses are watered-down to help students pass.

https://retrosnob.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/...he-double-hump/

how much does it cost you to take CS degree in UTAR and TARC ? I have few TARC CS student doing their internship in my company.
Honestly, TARC's course structure is not that up-to-date and "close to working environment". The interns are struggling to pass test and copying each other's work. Whereby, interns from Sunway Uni and Nottingham are doing quite well as they have experience from coursework offered subject.
If the cost does not have much difference compared to INTI's University of Wollongong degree, then I suggest you to consider UOW in INTI or Sun-U, or UTAR.

TARC or UTAR's tuition fees cost around 40K/3 years...Almost 25K cheaper than most private unis like INTI, Sunway, MMU which has an average tuition fees of 60+K...

Realistically saying, if my family's financial situation would allow me to go to unis with higher cost, I wouldn't even think about names like TARC while picking where to study ( That's why I only included TARC and UTAR in the title..)

25K might not sounds a lot to some people, I know people who would spend 10K in one round of gambling...But that's a really huge amount of money to me. So, it is what it is.

This post has been edited by Je Ping: Mar 1 2018, 09:28 PM

Go for UTAR

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This post has been edited by Wan goh: Mar 3 2018, 02:30 AM

Although many students failed in exam but Utar is still in a top ranking in Malaysia university... Which part im dont understand 😅

Any reason??

I make some simple comparison between this TARUC and UTAR:
1) Tuition Fee: Not much difference
2) Teaching Quality: Not much difference
3) Student Poppulation: Majority Chinese, same for both
4) Research Capability: UTAR better (TARUC not yet have PhD graduate until today)
5) Reputation: UTAR better (More well-known in industry)

If you are prospective student not yet apply for both uni, which one you will prefer?

So if i want to join intake for foundation courses, Utar is better than Taruc?

I wouldn't think that research would be an important component unless most of what the lecturers are doing is applied research within a scientific field. TARUC is a teaching university and i would go for a teaching university more than a research-based one. Research in Malaysia is over-rated with majority of the people publishing in less than reputable journals and conferences just to meet their research requirements.

And i would think TARUC has a higher reputation than UTAR as it is older and more established. Don't forget UTAR was created for TARUC students to feed into but along the way changed it's manifest. TARUC will eventually be a university too.

In terms of price - TARUC is cheaper since it's subsidised while UTAR is NOT subsidised. Both are under the umbrella of MCA.

As far as I know, UTAR Foundation is harder than TARUC Foundation

Yes, I agreed with your point.

But, if I am prospestive students that going for continue postgraduate studies after completion of degree, then UTAR is better place. Since the research environment is there.

Anyway, the student need to choose which one is suit better himself.

I don’t see student’s fail rate has anything to do with university ranking.

Students have their own responsibility to study as well, instead of solely depends on lecture note and tutor.

For some reasons, I’m just grateful that I could step into university to study and appreciate the opportunity I have, I never bother about ranking that much, seriously.

On the other hand, some people tend to complain this and that. Somewhat they don’t even really study, but just expect to see “ideal questions” in either mid term or final.

May i know something, what the main language used in utar or taruc. Especially while the lecturer was teaching n their exam papers are fully english or dwi languages? Meanwhile malay n english.

Both institutions use English as content delivery language.

Except some MPUs (Mata Pelajaran Umum) subjects such as TITAS and Hubungan Etnik. These subjects use Malay language.

There is no multilingual.

Totally agree with this!

What are the coursework subjects you mean? could you give some examples??

For example, consultant wise : Software Project Management, Software Engineering Principles, SDLC, Professional Management Level A;
Technical wise (Team lead and developer/programmer) : Java and some other OO language, Mobile Computing, Database Design, Software Project Management, SDLC, Software Engineering Principles; Algorithms; Distributed System;

Interns from MSU are weaker when compared with TARU and UTAR