For producers, musicians, audiophiles or anyone who is aware of these reference frequencies, what are your thoughts on this and which one do you prefer (or any other reference pitch aside from these two)?

For those who are missing out:

440hz is the modern standard frequency reference for the pitch A4 (A above the middle C). this has been classified as ISO 16. most of modern pop music is in tune with this pitch reference.
432hz is obviously a slightly lower pitch than the standard, but there are claims that this pitch reference is "the natural pitch", and that it is "softer and brighter, giving greater clarity and is easier on the ears"

i've heard of this before...
but i think it only applies in the standard tuning we all are familiar with?

so would a 432hz 'A' still sound 'easier on the ears' compared to a 440hz Ab?
seeing as a 1/2 step down from 440hz is around 415hz...so 432hz would probably be somewhere in between a 1/4 step and the standard we all are familiar with...so a 1/2 step down would be even 'easier on the ears'?

would this then mean tuning 1/2 step down is better? like all the classical guys before?

but i guess in the end, tuning is relative...and as long as the whole band is in tune...no harm trying...
just that in future should someone else try to dictate ur stuff, they would just say u are slightly flat

it doesnt matter, thats like saying if i play anything in G# it would be better.

these days you are also able to configure the timbre (or tone) of the sound to make it more pleasing to the ear

it's convenience and less hassle to record with 440hz since all modern music instruments/samples/keyboard were build this way, unless you wanna do manual recording, detune all instruments and such

whew. left this thread for awhile. got busy.

while i do not entirely agree on some things being said about 432hz, i think this has benefits (with matching cons as well).

as a listener, you don't pull out your tuners and check how these songs are tuned. so on the listener's point of view, it doesn't really matter. anyone would enjoy the music first before anything else.

i remember several occasions when i was younger (when i had no idea or concept of reference pitches). all i know is i used tuners, or if i have no tuner within reach, i would use particular songs for my reference for tuning. and there were times that there were some songs that didn't really "fit like a glove" when i tried playing along with them, that i had to resort to re-tuning my guitar in reference to that particular song. what's worse was i couldn't re-tune my acoustic piano (obviously). so i was puzzled and sometimes disappointed in such a predicament.

on the producing side of things, this would be a major hassle particularly on retuning instruments, especially on pianos and harps (though a workaround would be shifting a sound down by roughly 31 or 32 cents, though that would take away a bit of being "organic" of any sound). if i am not mistaken, i think most of the keyboards / digital pianos have tuning capabilities (mine can do it). i just don't know for MIDI - but i am sure there is a way. but i think most of the advantages lie on the vocalist. it doesn't seem to be much of a difference numerically, but i've worked with several singers who have delivered better on a slightly lower pitch than the standard - this mainly depends on they key of the song and the range of their vocals. and for me it certainly spells the difference between singing at A = 432hz and at G# = 415hz (standard) that i would really take note of.

now that i have been aware of this, i admit that i enjoy hearing some songs at different reference pitches. and i am actually in the middle of producing a song in my band's album at A = 432hz (amidst of everything else recorded at A440), but it does not work on everything. heck some songs would be sounding better at an even lower reference pitch, or maybe a higher one. i don't know if you guys would agree with me but i think we are just clamped down to this standard A440 for the sake of convenience (well the way how most popular instruments are designed - a standard would be a need at some point). as Everdying has mentioned, tuning is relative - and that includes also all frequencies in between the standards.

if you're talking about the 12-tone equal temperament (standard chromatic?), then i'd say yes it applies to that

hope they bring their tuners with them

lol.. how'bout alfarabi with 24 tone instead
p.s ..sorry for the interruption .just read this thread .. this subject used to complicated me once upon a time ago lol... well then..carry on

Haha no worries bro!

Ive briefly read about such scales apart from the modern 12 tones, but i forgot what they are called and im just not too well versed with them

Do you play any instruments that is readily capable of playing such scales? I guess the fretless instruments can easily do this.

what is seems like some baseless mumbo jumbo to you?

wow long vids! but il check these out! thanks for the links

This post has been edited by brownman90561495: Aug 20 2018, 03:07 PM