http://www.themalaymailonline.com/projekmm...MKyQlJZYpy0b.97

KUALA LUMPUR, 28 Feb ― Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) mahu lebih ramai kaum bukan Melayu menyertai organisasi pertahanan itu agar dapat mengukuhkan lagi perpaduan dalam kalangan anggota dan masyarakat.

Panglima ATM Jen Tan Sri Raja Mohamed Affandi Raja Mohamed Noor berkata ATM tidak pernah menutup peluang mana-mana kaum untuk menyertainya.

“Saya menyeru kaum India, Cina, dan lain-lain kaum untuk menceburi bidang ketenteraan,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas merasmikan upacara Perasmian Op Perisai Akidah Peringkat ATM dan Pelancaran Buku Akidah Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah di Auditorium MINDEF, Wisma Pertahanan di sini, semalam.

Beliau mengulas dakwaan Persatuan Veteran Cina Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (MACVA) dalam satu portal berita tempatan Sabtu lepas bahawa kerajaan “terlalu memilih” dalam merekrut kaum Cina yang mahu menyertai bidang ketenteraan dan kepolisan.

Presidennya, Mejar (B) Tan Pau Son dilaporkan berkata lebih 100 anggota kaum Cina mahu menyertai pasukan itu sejak dua tahun lepas tetapi ditolak atas alasan “mereka tidak cukup baik”. ― Bernama

Mostly sked kena bully inside.

after bully = becum stronk, so join now weaklings

Mid career can still join?

desk work and war strategist can?

Fix

can i join as a drone pilot?

when bunch of nerds n scrawnies join its like begging to be bullied

This post has been edited by reed90: Feb 28 2018, 10:54 AM

X mau
Later mcm Yong Kok kena buli

later kena buttsek

i really wanted to become a fighter pilot but signing up for military felt like signing my freedom away coz need to enter camp and let yourself be abused through training and possibly ragging as well so I stayed away.

In the 50s right up to the 70s, the army was like 40-50% non-malays......then you know what happened, that's why no one joined since then. There are so many retired non-malay majors, colonels, captains. You can be qualified but you juniors will overtake you......many left because they couldn't go up further because you know.

Taman Melawati has a lot of these people.

This post has been edited by feynman: Feb 28 2018, 11:12 AM

Tentera and military doesn't mean army (darat) only mah right?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4528980/all

Gaji kecik. Who want?

Ktard standard min rm20k

Most Chinese u can see in Air force and Navy

I believe the same goes to any other government bodies

haha.... most youngster join because want to hold gun shj....

yup...though in other government bodies.....if you're not too ambitious, just goyang kaki and run along with the incompetence. You'll have a steady income and a good pension. It's ok if you don't become a ketua jabatan. steady income, good pension, 8 to 4 work hours....senang

In the army, if you follow an incompetent fool into combat, you'll die......you cannot disobey an order even though the commander is an idiot

It's the same as any job. Where got job so perfect u get promoted like clockwork?

Military, like any job, promotion is given by a board of pipul, not by a computer that automatically levels u up by qualification. When u don't get promoted, u must have done something to piss off the wrong pipul.

ok i'll join.

Ptui, masuk military nak jadi fighter pilot konon. Qualified ke?

Military is the job where they put u where u are suited to do , not by what u want to do.

Konon2 kalau nak join nak jadi fighter pilot la, commado la....qualified ke?

In front of news and media, they will said come come join our forces and get a lot of benefit. After send appilication, behind scene quietly stamping rejected and label you as pendatang.

"Bumi ini Milik Siapa"
You tell us, How to join?

This post has been edited by danielmckey: Feb 28 2018, 11:29 AM

apply tudm then show your skills controlling drone..

why so negative toward non malay ? anyone can become good soldier if there is a will of fire inside.

a joke

a 50+ yrs joke

bm national language

Mau tipu bukan Melayu masuk ATM dan undi BN.

This panglima in this news article sounds like a bangang....is he so ignorant that he doesn't know why non-malays are lukewarm towards pubilc service? Or he is just being a prick by feigning ignorance?

With the ketuanan narrative since the 70s, how would it look if you have multiple platoons, companies, batallions, regiments, head by non-malays.......how would it go down with the politics?

Later open for foreigners from Bangladesh and Nepal. Haha.

They mental. Always like this one.

Today lets unite
Tomolo lu tak suka lu keluar.
And repeat ....

This post has been edited by D10yrspain: Feb 28 2018, 11:32 AM

im third class citizen for what die for country

go do it yourself

Of course.....

Pengarah Komunikasi Strategik ATM adalah chinese....

Bear in mind, strategic comms tu tahu everything about military movement

Inspector Jeneral TLDM adalah indian

This post has been edited by LTZ: Feb 28 2018, 11:35 AM

i hope more indians and chinese join the force. always MS88 users on the road here in kch.

i don't know what happened. care to explain?

You guys can do it!!! We all lurve our country

Tell us which race on top of them?

Go & check....

Pengarah Komunikasi Strategik ATM sape...

Inspektor Jeneral TLDM sape.....

Panglima brigade sape....

They are non-malay

how to qualify? strategic comms interests me although i don't think i'm qualified.
interest alone is not enough, that's for sure

Kau ade bukti...pm me klu kau ade bukti. Aku boleh refer Jabatanarah

Kerja IT ada tak? Maybe fly combat drone?

U are saying panglima ATM bangang..... haha....ok

Perkhidmatan Seri Paduka Baginda...kau jgn simply look down on the taat setia that we are doing right now

Or you just got the wrong kulitfication

This

In ATM.... kau bangsa ape agama ape tak kisah.... sini la aku rase the only organization yg everybody work really close to each other..... muntah, makan taik sama2

Hidup Espirit De Corps

And Budaya Rejimental

This post has been edited by JohnKekHow: Feb 28 2018, 11:44 AM

Most pipul want to join for sake of some pipe dream of becoming only high-class job like ship captain, fighter pilot and commando. Qualified ke in the first place?

Infantryman grunt job takde pulak nak join? "malas lah, kerja susah biar melayu je la buat, aku nak join untuk jadi fighter pilot je". Pastu komplen takde non-malay higher officers.

Nak masuk start dari bawah la. Ingat masuk ko terus jadi Mejar?

Go read history

One or two token non-malays don't mean it's inclusive..........

I can put one or two black people and say my company is diverse.

The army by virtue of it being the defenders of he country should reflect the ethnic makeup of the country but clearly, that is not teh case, and there was never a willpower to encourage so.

Tak suruh kau masuk pun.... volunteerily basis. Tp klu x nak join jgn rendah2kan angkatan tentera sendiri. Masing2 ade tugas utk pembangunan & keamanan negara

Y'all taat setia is aint to king nor to the ppl but to the elected government

Never seen me Chinese/Indian NCOs before only encountered from Sabah/Sarawak during my training before

Malay.....look la..... 110 000 personnel pas tu 5000 chinese kau nk expect chinese jadi jeneral. Be logic la.... kt singapore kau x komplen plak.

Pengarah Stratcomms tu gile kau.... dia control satellite lagi. Compare ngn singapore bg malay 1 bintang tp jaga human resource pastu kecoh kata bg peluang sama rata

tajuk besar2 suruh join jd aku jawap la

manada kutuk tentera.. tenkiu for service

Just because one is sitting on top doesn't stop that person from being a bangang..........look at trump. Look at the multitude of cabinet ministers and deputy ministers, look at the sabri fool.

Ok...ikut kau la

No thank you. As advise from my decease dad in Tudm, he do not wish his generation onwards got anything to do with gov body organizations .

Jgn marah. Lol.

You know what is mean by behind the scene?

yang penting harapnya ATM taat setia bukan kpd PM selama-lamanya

tu sahaja sudah syukur takbir alhamdullillah

Panglima ATM....I mean military general....go google and see why they are generals. Why this appointment so important seen long time ago.

Pastu nk compare dgn politicians yg bekas cikgu sekolah...mmg la bangang diorng tu

Ramai pandan...

some Got Sandhurst, Westpoint, Royal Naval Dartmouth military college background

This post has been edited by JohnKekHow: Feb 28 2018, 11:54 AM

my late father once kena hold promotion. someone sabotaged him. one magazine of bullets going missing under his watch. had to go to military court to clear his name.

Governments change but the military will still be here.

Unless PH want to gut the military into irrelevance, which is what their "Budget Alternatif" stands to do.

ouchhh

Hnnnggghhh

Adui...

100 000 malay... 1000 chinese kau nk expect chinese tu jadi jeneral mmg mangkuk la..... bagi la join byk2 dulu pastu citer lain

LOWER rank accept non bumi la , no hope non bumi can pomote to high ranking

Shit happen. He had to stay on Staff Sargeant for 5 years iinm. But his rezeki got special promotion jump straight to be Regiment Sergeant Major. If you have the chance you can check it. Idk where to check it but my late father name is PW1 Md Radzi Yahya. His last regiment is 11RGK.

join baru 10 org, pastu nak 10 tu jawatan tinggi

pegi mati plis, dont join

Shud emulate patriot general Yue Fei la, enlisted in the lower rank then become General

takyah layan la bro, depa ni keja nak troll je

join tak nak, tapi high ranking post mau

Join to help protect the country or just nak pangkat tinggi?

i think most DAP will fail the baby boot camp. u think they can survive a real adult boot camp?

Join 30days of Wataniah Boot camp

Just to make money out of the profession la me think so. If that is the case, military is not just a profession it is a way of life

sumua keyboard warrior mana ada telur nak jadi polis/bomba/askar

Indeed. Even my father's friend who was ex-navy think that non-bumi shouldn't join the armies if they can't handle the fact their junior will be their senior one day.

Going to good schools don't mean one cannot be bangang. Good schools do not disqualify one from critical thinking.

Geez...people here are so ignorant


So it's about numbers now?

in the 70's, the army was mixed, but people were bypassed because of colour.

pretend ignorance

nothing new...

many Ibans dayaks in army too


seldom see they promote to high rank

Prolly need to tie hand or leg. You know i know la

I am waiting some smart people come out and correct people by showing some facts.

It's okay even if it's self-create list/index, as long as i see /hear i will praise and persuade the younger to go.

Thought that counts

Kau je pandai...malas nk layan. Baik aku sambung keje aku ni

OK la i accept your argument. Got good example like Ahmad Maslan and Nazri Aziz

This is what nerdy ketard cannot understand.

Sekarang army x mixed ke?? Baru aku tau dulu mixed skarng x de.... btw kau ade statistik ke skarng pecahan tentera kita? Aku ade.....

Sbb diorng join lain-lain pangkat byk. Anak buah aku 2 org Iban pegawai waran I lg... x de diskriminasi pun

boss


saya cakap pasal major and above lol

The facts is....setiap kali pusat pemilihan buka....yg dtg bukan melayu amat menyedihkan. Sbb tu PAT buat statement camtu. Klu dah dari awal x tunjuk minat tp kata2 mcm sebab...dengar org kata....dengar camtu camni.... tp x penah cuba.

Semua org kena bai....esprit de corps

X ramai join.... tp klu kau boleh tgk CO RRD mmg ade bangsa sarawak or sabah.

CO BM5....Iban. komander Banggau.

This post has been edited by LTZ: Feb 28 2018, 12:25 PM

Mostly don’t want to join because working hard enough in this country is not enough to secure a good life and position. Unless u convert to ..

My unker was in army, no future n he left.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Feb 28 2018, 12:26 PM

Askar Bukan Melayu Di Raja Malaysia?

the article is specifically talking about ATM. not air force.

air force and navy got many non malay. just ATM dont have, strange phenomena.

Walaowei

Chinese n indian masuk Call Of Duty...

because navy and air force has load of high tech element

and apparently they pay well too


ATM ayam don't know lah lol

wondering between cainis and yindian which group has more presence in military

Lel this keyboard warrior, pathetic as usual