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post Jul 10 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 10 2018, 12:22 PM)
They really "small gas" and can't accept comments complaints. They deactivated my account after being complained why they can't disclose the reason why they rejected to accept my own account transfer from SGD to their TW SGD.

This is worst and it is hard to get support or complaint to FCA or whatever since email communication is not the good way to do so. Unlike bank, we can do it physically to the branch or Bank Negara.
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Can disclose your email between you and them ?
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post Jul 10 2018, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 10 2018, 02:58 PM)

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And their reply to you ?

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post Jul 10 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 10 2018, 05:11 PM)
No reply and terus deactivate.
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Walao...bad customer service. Better don't use them.

If you want, email complain to authority in Sg, like CASE and CCCS

Make TransferrWise work a bit. Let them answerable. Teach them a lesson...
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 9 2018, 11:44 PM)
I will trust it more than I trust a bank. Bank loan your money out. They don't.
Secondly, they are gearing up towards the "international nomad community"
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I will not leave my money with someone who treat customer service like rubbish.

Banks are regulated by governments. While these fintech have free hand to manage their business.

It just take a very aggressive CEO to screw things up. And your money with them is gone for good
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post Jul 10 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 10 2018, 08:32 PM)
Keep in mind that Jack is involved with cryptocurrencies.
Actually fintech are regulated by central banks. No license cannot operate.

For me I have very good experience with TW. Told them I will be very busy for the week. I am only free for 30 minutes and I was going  to sleep. They call me back in that 30 minutes to reset my password.

Never seen such efficiency. Call me from UK!!!

I have been dealing with customer service from western companies for 4 years +  one thing I am sure is they are more efficient compare to Asians (Malaysia &  SG)
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jack2, looks like you have to go all the way to complain to them / authorities (if what you said in this forum so far is true)

The supporters here are disputing your side of story. Do update us so we know the whole story biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2018, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 10 2018, 09:50 PM)

That is OK who supports who and I don't care. They restricted my USD account to receive funds without informing and what about if I transferred my own USD balance from DBS to there? The fund get returned?

I prefer to spend more to DBS or other fintech provided I do not need to wait for clearance and hassles free.
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This is the typical malaysian/asian attitude --> do not defend what is right, and accuse them what is wrong. In other words, no principle

Polite or not, the customer service has to be professional and not emotional. They cannot suspend your account just because customer is impolite.

And to be fair to you, I don't think what your email is impolite at all. You are just angry, which you have all the rights to be. They should be grateful you didn't use 4 letter words.

If I am in your situation, I will follow up right until the end, for them to honour my request. And restore my account. Whether to use them in the future that's up to me.

Of course, unless it is my wrong not providing enough documentation to them, then I will back off because I have no case....

Just for fun, I will try to register and transfer a small amount to see how is their service biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2018, 11:14 PM

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Done ! Impressed !

Just verify email, upload ID document and utility bill. I have all these documents in soft copy so very smooth.

UI is very clean and simple. No connection hiccup.

For local fintech, the KYC process is longer. Need to make appointment to either video call or meet in person. Maybe that's BNM rules. This one is very simple.

Receive email for confirmation also very quick. Now see if my money appears in my bank tomorrow as promised.

The only thing I don't like is payment is not linked to my bank. Have to log in separately and make a transfer

Everything kaotim in 15-20 minutes I think.

The nett rates is just under 0.8xx% over XE.com middle rate. Good for small amount. Comparable to local fintech. I think there is no bank charges at receiving bank. So rates is better compare to banks

Fintech is great for us thumbup.gif

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post Jul 10 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 10 2018, 10:41 PM)
Never mind la.... No problem as I seldom transfer.

Just sometimes I need to exchange USD from DBS back to MYR and I am looking to receive more MYR.

But still, I scare my USD when remit from DBS to their bank in USD, they slow to credit me and I will marah again. Huhu

I sent IDR from DBS using SGD convertion and they have good rate too. I thought to do this from DBS to TW then to Indo but just noted it was deactivated. So, just let it goes...nothing to worry....

Marilah menari dan kuda terus lompak
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If you let them off the hook, they can't improve. You are not helping the future consumers

Unless of course you did not tell us other things transpired between you and them....
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post Jul 11 2018, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 12:09 AM)
Welcome to the world of fintech. At least you are open minded biggrin.gif

Another way you can save tone of money on exchange is via interactive broker. They let you convert currency at almost spot rate (differences is negligible).  The con is need to keep USD100k inside there in cash or stock and you won't get charged USD10/month.
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As an old unker, I am more open minded than you as a youngman biggrin.gif

You are too engrossed in cost side. Most probably due to your upbringing so it's very difficult to change

I had IB years ago. But I cancel the account because the UI is so complicated. Anyway, I am out of stock market since mid last year
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post Jul 11 2018, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 11 2018, 09:54 AM)
Them young 'uns will evolve / adapt OR DIE - like us dinos  laugh.gif

i used to focus only on offence.. until i tried both defence & offence.. holy smokes.. turbo!

edit: PS - WORTHWHILE defences, not the dimes & quarters.. else lost of time & focus cost more
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Like a true sifu thumbup.gif

A miser might save dimes & quarters, but loses opportunities.

By opportunities I mean technical KnowWho, human relationship, reputation, track records....

I think it is safe to say nobody likes to be a close friend with a miser. A person who is not cincai. A person who reminds you 1 week later you still owe him RM2.65 from the last dinner.

Career wise, colleagues and bosses will not think of him if there is an opportunity.

In business, build up relationship and track records with the customer, suppliers and banks. Share profits with them. So next time you expand business they will also look at you positively.

These are things not quantifiable in numbers.
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post Jul 11 2018, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Jul 11 2018, 02:50 PM)
While what you said is generally accepted true, no challenge to that, I would like to share the story of the founder of Ikea:

Ingvar Kamprad
There is no one-size-fit-all method to find success, everyone has to figure out which way work best for himself/herself.
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Yea always there are exceptions.

While you can quote me one super wealthy miser, I can quote you 10. Just do a research on the wealthiest people in the world and how they live
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post Jul 11 2018, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 04:00 PM)
Banks are not your best friend. Never will and will never be. In times of your need they don't help you. In good time, they try to profit from you.

Are you willing to share your profit with people like them?  Not me. Sorry.
Warren buffet also another one. He have resources to live like a king but yet he stayed down to earth. Same goes with Bill D gates.
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Bro, not trying to convince you actually. I know you will always be a miser....nothing can change that probably due to your upbringing

If you read back, I am just saying I am more open minded than you as a young man biggrin.gif
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post Jul 17 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 17 2018, 02:25 PM)
That's good, bro,... then just leave it and stay far away from them from now,... it's good that you broadcast this information here.

Whether people listen or intended to take a contrarian view is not our concern anymore,.... but thank you for this information,.....
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Bro, only jack2 has problem with TransferWise biggrin.gif Others here including me is impressed with this fintech

I have continued to use it. For major currencies (USD, GBP, AUD), the spread is excellent ! About 0.3xx% over XE middle rate. That is the rate local bank quote me for transferring a big amount (6 figures). But TW rate applies even it if it just S$10k. Strangely there is not much difference if you transfer S$10k or S$50k (my bank limit)

Opening account is very quick and simple also. Speed of transfer is also excellent.

You should try and compare with your DBS. I bet TW will be beat it


 

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