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post Jan 9 2008, 08:58 PM

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Here is the list I recommend you should get & do.

- Leash
- Pup food (old & new)
- Air-tight container (to keep puppy food)
- Plates (I already have a few)
- Shampoo
- Conditioner
- Comb
- Pin Brush
- Sccisor
- Nail cutter
- Ear cleaner
- Eye cleaner
- Cotton Bud
- A soft bed/home <--- I saw this at a pet shop in Pyramid, selling at RM90+
- Orgaderm Spray (keep one just in case your pup develop skin problem or injure himself)
- Deworm tablet (1 tablet cost about RM5-RM6) Dontal Plus - 1 tablet equal to 10KG body weight
- Heartworm Tablet (1 box cost about RM65- RM70) Heartgard Plus - 1 box can last you half year for 1 dog.
- Vaccination go for 7in1 cost you about RM40-RM50. You need to go for atleast another 2 vaccination cause I believe the breeder already gave the pup 1st vaccination. After the 3rd vaccination you only bring back to vet annually for annual vaccination cost you about the same RM40-RM50.

- Avoid feeding your pup treats & home cooked food. Once in a blue moon is OK.

- Once the puppy get all the vaccination please bring the puppy out more often to socialise more with strangers & dogs.

- Never too pamper you puppy. You will regret once your pup grow up. Remember this is the right time to housetrain your pup. Never cage your pup train the pup to be free running around your house, that why house train your pup is very important at this stage.

Thats it. Good luck.
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post Jan 12 2008, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:45 AM)
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no eyes to see.. (i'm the king!! looking above the sky)
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Are you a breeder? You breed so many dog breeds for sales?
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 12 2008, 10:50 PM)
not a breeder, only agent. those silky pups are my bf's
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Improve the breed quality not quantity. Your bf's Female Silky is not suitable for breeding.
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:58 AM)
Just wondering, what means by quality?? keeping a whole lot of silkies to experiment which to pick up for breeding?, only champ fur kids can be breed? using human shampoo? or by feeding eukanoba?

The beauty of ur fur kids falls on the eyes of the beholder but on the eyes of others. There are alot of nicer fur kids who doenst join the ring but doesnt means that their fur kids are not preety. Even not nice dogs are dogs too, they have feelings and no one can judge.
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Did I say champ furkid, human shampoo & eukanuba is quality breeding? Did I?

All furkids are beautiful including mongrels. All I want to say here is breeding is to improve not increase the quantity.

Please see below pic of the female silky I am referring. Silky Terrier standard coat color should be blue and tan. The blue may be silver blue, pigeon blue or slate blue, the tan deep and rich. The blue extends from the base of the skull to the tip of the tail, down the forelegs to the elbows, and half way down the outside of the thighs. On the tail the blue should be very dark. Tan appears on muzzle and cheeks, around the base of the ears, on the legs and feet and around the vent. The topknot should be silver or fawn which is lighter than the tan points.

Did the below female Silky meet the above requirement? If not why still use it as breeding machine? Best is the spayed it.


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Request from owner of the picture to not show it but the link will be here for reference.

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post Jan 14 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Jan 14 2008, 10:33 AM)
Just a question...if this female silky coat color quality is not so good, get her mate with a good quality male dog, would it improve the offspring coat color?
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Silky Terrier with a whole body brown color is totally out of the written standard. Why you still want to breed if you know your female Silky have a serius fault. Is best study & understand your Silky bloodline before going into breeding. Study as far as you can about your Silky brother & sister, parent, grandparent & etcs.

A poor quality female mate with good quality male hoping the puppies will come out like the father. You are just trying your luck. Chances are the puppies will follow the mother.


Added on January 14, 2008, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:58 AM)
The beauty of ur fur kids falls on the eyes of the beholder but on the eyes of others. There are alot of nicer fur kids who doenst join the ring but doesnt means that their fur kids are not preety. Even not nice dogs are dogs too, they have feelings and no one can judge.
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The motto of the responsible breeder of purebred dogs is "Breed to Improve."

Every dog is the best dog in the world to its owner. Responsible breeders, however, know to avoid "kennel blindness" -- in other words, they take a step back and honestly evaluate the good and bad points of their dogs before making the decision to breed. The goal of breeding, after all, is to produce a better dog and a quality pet.

One of the best ways to get an objective opinion of your dog is to test it against others. Consider attending a dog show to determine how your dog measures up against the best specimens of its breed.

To be an effective breeder, you should have a basic understanding of the science of genetics. Everything about your prospective puppies' health, soundness, looks, and temperament will be determined by the genes passed on by their parents, and by their parents before them. Therefore, the selection of a mating pair should not be made solely on the basis of the dog's or b****'s looks (or temperament or soundness, etc.), but should be based on an understanding of how the animal's genes contributed to its looks and of how those genes are passed on and expressed. That is why it is essential to study the pedigrees of your mating pair. The more knowledge you have as you make your selection, the more likely you are to produce a litter with the qualities you desire.


Source: AKC

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post Jan 14 2008, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Jan 14 2008, 01:31 PM)
I have seen one Silky Terrier whole body silky greyish colour, is that also  out of standard and have serious fault too?
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No Tan Color at all? Then the answer is YES.


Added on January 14, 2008, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 14 2008, 02:30 PM)
Thanks dude, already added them into my list. Do you know the rough figure to get all the stuff above? ;S

I have a few questions...

- Leash is something like dog chain ah? I always get confused with this sial.  blush.gif

- For deworm & heartworm tablet, how often should I give the pup? And how do I feed it?  unsure.gif

Dude, can I have a look at your silkies sleeping area?  brows.gif


Leash is dog chain. It come in many meterial. Don't buy metal chain to your dog cause metal chain will break your Silky hair around the neck area worse it will hurt & injured your dog neck.

I guess your pup now is somewhere around 8 weeks old. Deworm your pup at 8weeks, 12weeks, 16weeks then every 3 months. For heartworm prevention you can start giving when your pup reach 5months old (no need do bloodtest).

LOL cool2.gif If I show you my dogs sleeping area that will be my bedroom sweat.gif

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post Jan 15 2008, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(conangirl @ Jan 15 2008, 12:14 AM)
does my Mika looks pure breed?
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sorry, no pic without cloth in this laptop..
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Yes it does look like a pure breed Silky to be based on the photo.


Added on January 15, 2008, 9:44 am
QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jan 14 2008, 10:44 PM)
i think they looked more like yorkies.. went to ikano few times still seeing the same silky puppies. they really dont look like silkies to me. there was once the maltese looked like a westie and its stated there "purebreed".
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You are right.

The Silky puppies that are currently selling at Ikano are way too small in size compare to actual Silky puppy. I think the Silky already mix with yorky then register them as purebreed Silky.

If you guys did follow MKA showring of Silky Terrier Breed. You know who I am talking about. I was so shock to see a Yorkshire Terrier competting with my Silky Terrier for the CC/Best of Breed titled. Only that I refer the show book entries that the Yorkshire Terrier is actually a Silky Terrier. It just show how well & knowledgeable is the participant about Silky Terrier Dog Breed. To my surprise the Silky Terrier look like Yorky is actually own breeding. Can you believe the Silky Terrier (1year+) are smaller in size compare to my puppy Silky (BELLE-7months old).

Before purchasing a Silky Terrier Puppy. Equip yourself with all the knowledge about Silky Terrier Breed thru books, Internet & visit dog show. Talk to the experience Show Breeder. Take your time and do all the research about this wonderful breed.

When come to purchasing a Silky puppy please go direct to breeder. Never go to petshops. Ask the breeder you want see both the parent of the puppy & also the cert (study them). Ask as many questions about his Silky Terrier dog/puppy. This is where your knowledge that you pickup early thru your reading & research come in good. As this will help you to determine whether this breeder know his breed well. Avoid those pushy type breeder want to sell you the puppy.

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post Jan 15 2008, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 15 2008, 10:31 AM)
The pup is not with me yet, still less than 8 weeks old. ;S

Ok, will get a soft leash.  biggrin.gif

You leave them running in your bed room? Won't they simply pee & poo ah?  unsure.gif

More to learn from you.  cool.gif
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Let me take some photo of the leash and show you.

No No No. I let them run freely inside my house when I am not around. I will place a tray & newspaper on top letting them pee & poo. If I am around I let them inside my room (sleep & play), they will never pee & poo inside my room during the night.

Know your furkid by using the correct way in training & be patience.


Added on January 15, 2008, 12:09 pm
QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jan 15 2008, 11:36 AM)
is it?? then show us ur bedroom then, haha............
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If you can get a copy of Pets Magazine I think is June or August 2007 issue. There you can see my bedroom & house with Silkys cool2.gif


Added on January 15, 2008, 12:13 pm
QUOTE(herzeleid @ Jan 15 2008, 11:30 AM)
errr.. maybe the silkies are 11xx each .. maybe i mistaken it for 13xx

erm.. most unlikely the pet shop in ikano will lie rite?
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The petshop will not lie to the customer. They just brought the puppies from those backyard/commercial dog breeder and sell at their petshop. The petshop don't care whether the puppy are pure/unhealthy, they just care about how much they can earn $$$$$ from the puppy. The younger the puppy they can get from the breeder the better their chances the they can sell off the puppy in higher price.

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post Jan 15 2008, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 15 2008, 02:10 PM)
If it is the case then why didnt you told me at the first place when i 1st breed the dog and i even posted in your silky and frends forum and you even congradulate my litters....sigh..and if i am not mistaken some1 is using pantene for his silkies and he thinks that eukanuba is the best dog food in the world to feed his fur kids. Most important is where did you copied the photo above from? did you ask for permision? swt...cmon la even if ikano or any other pet shop is selling their pups expensive do you have to mention that they are cheating $$$. No need pay rental izzit? feed eukanuba or feed air?? If there are no pet shop people wont even know what silky is...
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What can I say. Your female already pregnant & gave birth to a pup. Sure I have to congrat you wat. If I know you are breeder at first place I straight away gave you my comment not to breed ur female again cause it is not suitable even if you are my close friend I also will talk the samething. At SNF Club forum you are not that active member. For me you are just an ordinary dog owner that have a female dog gave birth to a puppy wanted to keep the pup & I never think you are a breeder at first place. If you breed again the female second time and post up in SNF Club forum I surely will say the samething at you.

My advice to you is stop breeding but I didn't shoot & insult you? If you don't want listen to my advice that fine for me. At the end of the day ppls only know alvin86 breed poor quality Silky Terrier puppies.

Not some1 using Pantene. Is me that I use Pantene on my Silkys. Not only me but reputable & well know Silky Terrier Breeders from State, Europe & OZ also using human shampoo & conditioner on their dogs. Result speak for it self. At first I also no confident & don't believe this breeders told me. Due to many try & error on pet shampoo that gave me no result on my Silkys I gave human product a try & from that day onward there is no turning back.

I say Eukanuba is one of the best dog food available. I didn't say is the best dog food in the world. Don't twist & turn my statement there is a different. Currently I feeding my Silkys California & Innova.

In this thread I didn't say Ikano or petshop cheat ppls money? Please read carefully before shooting me.

Why you not proud me showing off your female Silky? If you not happy I can delete it. Just tell me I have no problem. This picture I copy from junnie thread selling puppy.

alvin86, at the end its all up to you. I just give you a short advice without shooting & insult you. But you feel offended.

If you love Silky Terrier Breed. Know the breed well & breed to improve this Silky Terrier in Malaysia. Be responsible.


Added on January 15, 2008, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 15 2008, 10:31 AM)
The pup is not with me yet, still less than 8 weeks old. ;S

Ok, will get a soft leash.  biggrin.gif

You leave them running in your bed room? Won't they simply pee & poo ah?  unsure.gif

More to learn from you.  cool.gif
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Below is the leash you should get for your Silky. First leash is those normal leash you can easy buy from petshop (abit thicker) suitable for dog that like to pull you for a walk. Second leash is a Show Leash (for dog show purpose) suitable for dog that follow your command and tag along you while you walk.

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post Jan 16 2008, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 16 2008, 12:05 AM)
Once I used human shampoo, tearless baby shampoo.... the foam got into my dog's eyes when she was giving me a hard time cleaning her face. Then her eyes turn cloudy grey, I thought blind. Went to vet, they told me that we should not use human shampoo coz the ph is not the same, so it results in hurting the eyes and giving skin allergies to some. Now I never use human shampoo anymore.... but conditioner got lah.
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LOL sweat.gif You must be using J&J baby shampoo. In fact, I many time advice ppls don't use J&J baby shampoo. This shampoo is too strong for our furkid skin & hair. First I thought baby shampoo should be mild and gentle but in other way round.


Added on January 16, 2008, 8:58 am
QUOTE(Juztiny @ Jan 15 2008, 11:39 PM)
Actually I don't see anything wrong with using human shampoo on pet  or feeding Eukanuba.  As long as the dog's gene is good, it won't have allergy problem etc.  Only those dogs genetically sensitive will have impactful skin allergy problem towards any kind of products.  I did feed Eukanuba and use human conditioner on my dogs too.
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Yes you are right. There is nothing wrong.



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post Jan 16 2008, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 16 2008, 09:40 AM)
No wor... Not J&J... it was another brand. J&J didn't give her problems but Anaku did.... now I use tearless doggy shampoo..... scared liao  sweat.gif
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LOL sweat.gif Anaku LOL sweat.gif


Added on January 16, 2008, 10:41 am
QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 15 2008, 02:10 PM)
If it is the case then why didnt you told me at the first place when i 1st breed the dog and i even posted in your silky and frends forum and you even congradulate my litters....sigh
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Just curious. How many time do you breed your female Silky in a year?

When I check back at SNF Club Forum thread. You posted your female silky gave birth on 16 June 2007 & now your Female Silky gave birth again?!!!.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 16 2008, 11:16 AM)
Thanks for the pics. Now I know what leash is.  rolleyes.gif

Is the thing adjustable ah?  tongue.gif

Dude, you got PM.  cool.gif
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Yes is adjustable nod.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 16 2008, 01:36 PM)
Chun sial.  biggrin.gif

Regarding shampoo, other than Pantene, what other shampoo brand can we use?  rolleyes.gif
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Sensetive issue recommending product in the forum. Afriad ppl think I am crazy. Anyway here goes.......

Human Product - Pantene, Sunsilk, Dove, Clairo, Chalton(Spa) & Fudge(Saloon).

Pet Product - 1# All System & Biogroom

I always dilute the shampoo & conditioner before applying on my dogs.

Ratio Shampoo/Conditioner:Clean Water - 1 : 10

Always use conditioner after shampoo. Conditioner is a MUST in every bath. You can leave the conditioner on the dog for few minute before rinse. When using Shampoo just pour into your dog fur and lightly rub onto the fur & quickly rinse well. Don't rub & leave the shampoo too long onto your dog fur cause shampoo will clean & dry your dog fur making your dog fur easy to break. RINSE WELL on every shampoo & conditioner.

One more thing. Use cold/clean water bath your dog. No need use warm water. Cold water can help reduce itching.


Note: Above just a recommendation based on my personal experience. If any individual have problem excepting the above recommendation you can alway choose not to listen and do what you think best for your furkid.
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post Jan 17 2008, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(conangirl @ Jan 16 2008, 09:42 PM)
when I bath my puppy, i apply the shampoo like human;
get wet, rub the shampoo all over, rinse. If i want to use human conditioner, can I do like this as well?
can use cold water for puppy too? (2+months old only)won't get sick?
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Whether you are using human product or pet product. Dilute the Shampoo & Conditioner first before applying onto your dog.

2 months old still young for bathing. At the moment use wet towel to clean the pup up & use hair dry to blow dry (cold air). Wait till your pup is about 3 months old then only bath your pup using warm water. After your pup getting all the vaccination you can bath your pup using cold water.
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post Jan 18 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 18 2008, 01:52 PM)
Nice info. dude. Wanna ask, why did you dilute the shampoo & conditioner?  rolleyes.gif

"Quickly rinse" <--- How fast should I immediately do? I think I will do part by part, the legs first, then body then... Ok ah?  rolleyes.gif


Added on January 18, 2008, 1:53 pm

Another nice info.  biggrin.gif
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Using Shampoo or Conditioner without diluting, chances that Shampoo & conditioner can't be rinse off cleanly & it may leave some on your dog skin & coat. That will cause some skin itching.

When you pour the Shampoo onto your dog. Rub into the Skin & Coat about 2 minute then rinse off. As for conditioner you can leave it onto your dog MAX 5 minute. REMEMBER RINSE WELL.


Added on January 18, 2008, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(babymiki @ Jan 18 2008, 02:02 PM)
when i shower Germaine..I tried my best to rinse off shampoo as fast as I could and then apply conditioner next. Before even applyingfor conditioner sometimes she's already shaking -.-
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Why need to rinse off shampoo as fast as you can? Just take your time to rinse off just make sure its clean then only apply conditioner.

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post Jan 18 2008, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(conangirl @ Jan 17 2008, 08:53 PM)
thanks for your advice... nod.gif
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One more thing, since you own a young pup now.

Check & Clean her ears more frequently.

Usually puppies brought from breeder/petshop have ears infection problem. Due to lack of paying attention on the puppies hygine. Check for excess ears wax on the pup. Clean daily if neccessary & gradually make it weekly basis after bath. Use ears drop & cotton bud for cleaning. Don't use ears powder cause it will block & buildup more wax inside your dog/pup ears.


Added on January 18, 2008, 2:28 pm
QUOTE(babymiki @ Jan 18 2008, 02:22 PM)
no i mean i wanna do it fast so dat she wont be trembling so much.

or is it cause the water i use is too warm? i got mix with cold water de..
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cool2.gif I think is too cold not warm.

Dog are very healthy, using cold water bathing them is no problem due to our Malaysia weather are so HOT.

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QUOTE(babymiki @ Jan 18 2008, 02:30 PM)
lol i use water from heater then i mix with cold water

wut i tot is the water is too warm then when their skin get in touch with the environment's air..which is cooler than the water's temp..dats why trembled
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Jan 18 2008, 02:34 PM)
chris..u no intro lanolin oil to them ka?
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No need lah. Simple can liao. Later everyone pening kepala.

Better keep some secret.
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Date : January 20, 2008
Venue : South City Plaza, Concourse B - Lower groud floor
Silky Terrier Breed Result

255th MKA All Breed Championship Show
Judge: Mr. Imran Husain (Pakistan)

Best of Breed
Woody Otomo - Chong Kok Lee
(Mal. Ch. Prince Cravia EX Cravia Love Jasmine)

Reserve Best of Breed
Mal. Ch. Peekaboo Heart's Desire - Christopher Ong Yew Sime
(Mal. Ch. Terrierslodge TLK Star Of Orion EX Mal. Ch. Casa D'amor Summer Mist)

256th MKA All Breed Championship Show
Judge: Mrs. Valie Carter (South Australia)

Best of Breed
Mal. Ch. Peekaboo Heart's Desire - Christopher Ong Yew Sime
(Mal. Ch. Terrierslodge TLK Star Of Orion EX Mal. Ch. Casa D'amor Summer Mist)

Reserve Best of Breed
Weishill's My Girl - Siew Jin Khen
(Benjoy Augustine EX Benjoy Endorphine)


All the photos taken are Silky breed :muhahah: Sorry not much photos to share with all members oops.gif

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 21 2008, 10:16 AM)
Wanna ask, why people always hold the tail ah?  tongue.gif
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Nothing. For presentation only.

Best of Breed & Reserve Best of Breed Winner dog & owner photos blush.gif

Woody Otomo - Chong Kok Lee
(Mal. Ch. Prince Cravia EX Cravia Love Jasmine)
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Mal. Ch. Peekaboo Heart's Desire - Christopher Ong Yew Sime
(Mal. Ch. Terrierslodge TLK Star Of Orion EX Mal. Ch. Casa D'amor Summer Mist)
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Mal. Ch. Peekaboo Heart's Desire - Christopher Ong Yew Sime
(Mal. Ch. Terrierslodge TLK Star Of Orion EX Mal. Ch. Casa D'amor Summer Mist)
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Weishill's My Girl - Siew Jin Khen
(Benjoy Augustine EX Benjoy Endorphine)
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