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SUSBrookLes
post Mar 2 2022, 05:31 PM

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It's "good" to have 6+ percent in dividends.

Problem is, how much you can actually take out when the time comes.
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post Feb 7 2023, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 7 2023, 06:05 PM)
Those who tempted to buy really weak. Cannot even fight temptation.
I collect 1sen and never buy anything from shitpee
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The time for you to open the app and collect that 1 sen is probably worth more then 1 sen already.
And there are way better ways of collecting coins then that 1 sen.

Buying from shopee is still cheaper then buying outside to be honest.
If you also consider the other benefits.
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post Feb 7 2023, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 6 2023, 10:58 AM)
I am not trying to promote Public Mutual, but there's this agent (well a friend lah) she approached me and promoted me this Public Mutual product where the interest is similar to our EPF, around 5% per annum and she asked me "Why you don't want to withdraw from your EPF to and place into this fund? They are similar in interest and you can take it as a better than FD investment and best of all can take out anytime."

I forgotten the product name, not sure if any of you aware of this or not.

I didn't really told her the reason but I believe because EPF is been guaranteed by government at least 2.5%, meanwhile I am not convince of PM's performance.

So why I mentioned this? Because the EPF withdrawing news has been in the trend again lately and I saw some discussion regarding allowing citizens to withdraw RM 500 monthly from EPF, that's why I am curious if these people better put their money in other avenues where they can withdraw or something?

Note: not a public mutual agent and also not selling or promoting.
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You should ask your friend to sign a guarantee that your returns is higher or equal or even slightly lower then EPF by 0.2%.
Your friend will pay you the difference if it's not.

BTW, is the news allowing withdrawal of 500 monthly from EPF true?
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post Mar 5 2023, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(LazyShopper @ Mar 5 2023, 07:13 PM)
The rate of return mentioned by the unit trust and the insurance company is actually not guaranteed. They are all calculated assuming that the best performance is achieved every year.
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You still dun get my point. But its ok.
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post Mar 5 2023, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ Mar 5 2023, 10:25 PM)
Abt 8 to 10k when I sold off everything. I haven't include the opportunity cost if I didn't withdraw abt 10 years ago.
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I am sure this 8 to 10k did not include the interest you would have gain.

Tells me how unscrupulous banks are to steal money from EPF. They probably have earn lots of fees through this. And the government is obviously encouraging them by allowing them to do this. I bet the government gets a share of the fees as well. Or even corrupted officials that allows this.

So my question is, is EPF really effective as a fund for old age if say government allows people to put their money into those kind of funds? And I am also sure that those funds charge a high service fee. In fact, I am pretty sure their service charges is even higher then non EPF type of funds. Is this even ethical?

One more question. If I think that FD is going to be higher in say 1 -2 years time. Why am I not allowed to put my EPF money into FD. Is it because FD does not charge as much fees as those kind of funds?

And this begs the other question. People here claim that EPF money is used for EPF investments. But if I used my EPF money to buy mutual funds, is it really still part of EPF investments.

So the question is, is EPF really for retirement funds?

This post has been edited by BrookLes: Mar 5 2023, 10:42 PM
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post Mar 6 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Mar 6 2023, 12:03 AM)
i saw someone in /k made a hefty unrealized profit, about 40%, off manulife india tho
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I doubt it's for epf related ut.
Sorry to say. Malaysians has got to be one of the most unsophisticated out there. There was a retirement fund that was advertised that gave very bad returns. Only thing is, they could get tax break. The investment firms would not have tried this in other countries that I have to say
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post Mar 6 2023, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 6 2023, 09:23 PM)
No one forced you to take our your EPF funds and move into a private unit trust. The question is then why u did it?
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Where did I imply that I did it
You have a reading comprehension problem?
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post Mar 6 2023, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Mar 6 2023, 10:53 PM)
he posted a screenshot. it's from i-invest.

hmm.. do elaborate further on the bolded part
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I have already explained in the 2nd part of the post.

You proved my point.
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post Mar 7 2023, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Mar 7 2023, 12:33 AM)
Oh i see. It's just that it's hard to understand what you're trying to convey through your broken English. Oh well...
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Sure it's broken.

Like I said. You proved my point.

All I know is you dunno shame.

So I wonder how broken my English is this time? Hope you can decipher my broken English. But if you can't then you can always take comfort in that. I know how messed up ppl are these days anyway.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: Mar 7 2023, 12:58 AM
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post Mar 7 2023, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Mar 7 2023, 01:30 AM)
lol, remember to take ur pills
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Sure. I am taking lots of them now.
So how is driving grab btw? Fun. I know it does not pay that much but I can probably try. But you probably have fun driving every day right?

 

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