nope....only working day is counted
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EPF SELF-CONTRIBUTION
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Nov 24 2019, 01:13 PM
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nope....only working day is counted
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Dec 17 2019, 03:01 PM
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If I had contributed max 60k today. Is it I'm able to contribute again 60k in january 2020? Or have to wait 1 year until dec 2020?
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Dec 18 2019, 03:45 PM
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Dec 18 2019, 08:35 PM
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Dec 19 2019, 03:46 PM
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Dec 20 2019, 12:30 PM
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Question.
Let's say self contribute 60k per year and below retirement age. Is it possible to withdraw 60k? Or must wait till retire /1m inside epf? |
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Dec 22 2019, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Dec 20 2019, 12:30 PM) Question. All the details here: https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawalsLet's say self contribute 60k per year and below retirement age. Is it possible to withdraw 60k? Or must wait till retire /1m inside epf? |
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Dec 23 2019, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Feb 14 2018, 07:51 PM) @AznRicy Create stories kot.. This has been taken from an old thread which has been closed. You gave your girlfriend excellent advice. I have been telling my nephew, as well as those in the Fixed Deposits forum, to do the same, but they can't see very far and don't seem to realize how important our EPF will be in old age. Like your girlfriend, my nephew and those in the FD forum listened to silly rumors from their friends : " Government is cheating us. EPF very hard to take out. " " My friend's father said very hard to take out EPF. They give him all kinds of reasons. " " Goverment is going bankrupt. They are using our EPF. " " EPF is a ticking time bomb. " Did your read the papers ? 70 PERCENT of those reaching 55 have less then $ 50,000 in their EPF. EPF sounds alarm as most contributors have less than RM50,000 at 54. http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...n-rm50000-at-54 There are over 4 million people hitting 55 and over in the country now. This means that at least 3 million have less than $ 50,000 in their EPF. Like this woman in my ex-office. She said her brother, single, an engineer, is now in his 60s with just $ 15,000 in his EPF. If you are married, your children may not bother about you in old age. Like my aunt in her 80s - I had to use my EPF to take her see the doctor at the hospital just two months ago. EPF is FORCED savings. EPF is the only GUARANTEED support you will have in old age. Nobody else is going to take care of you. If you put everything in an FD, chances are you'll spent most of it away by 55. I told my nephew, either : Direct his employer to deduct extra, say $ 500, to his EPF every month, and/or : Pump in yourself, as and when you can, up to the $ 60,000 limit EPF allows per year. EPF interest has remained relatively stable between 4.25 and 8.50 percent for the last 50 years. Take an average of 6.375 percent. If you have the money, put in $ 10,000 in the EPF for a start, rather than any of the fixed deposits. Then fill in the required EPF form to direct your employer to deduct an extra $ 500 from your salary every month. If you are 30 now, you'll have over $ 400,000 by 55. http://www.calculator.net/interest-calcula...it=0&x=106&y=13 Compounding interest separates the rich from the broke. The great Albert Einstein once said “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn't … pays it.” http://www.thepennieswesaved.com/compound-...-eighth-wonder/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7iadUBPWw/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7iadUBPWw This post has been edited by Daily11: Dec 23 2019, 09:29 AM |
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Dec 23 2019, 10:10 AM
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Dec 23 2019, 06:50 PM
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Dec 23 2019, 07:21 PM
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This is solid advise..
Just like Americans, they always say max out your 401k contributions.. which is the same as EPF. |
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Dec 25 2019, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(Daily11 @ Dec 23 2019, 10:50 AM) That's the problem with advising local kids will little IQ ona "kopitiam" forum. If your dinosaur brain think these are all "fables", then ignore my advice AT YOUR OWN PERIL. You will realize what a complete fool you have been, when you are in your 60s, alone, the rest of your family members all passed away, with no savings and maybe $ 500 left in EPF. Tell me, who is going to help you then ? Your generous, caring, Malaysian Welfare Department ? You can talk, shout, plea, cry till the end of time. Nobody will come to help you. |
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Dec 25 2019, 05:30 PM
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Learn to pay yourself first before anything else.
I have max my EPF contribution as an employee at 35%, then add in my own self-contribution. I must say it's rather satisfying to see the money grows every year. I wish I know it earlier but rather a little late than never. Cheers to all. Make RM1 million your goal for EPF saving |
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Dec 25 2019, 05:35 PM
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Dec 26 2019, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Dec 25 2019, 12:45 AM) That's the problem with advising local kids will little IQ on a "kopitiam" forum. If your dinosaur brain think these are all "fables", then ignore my advice AT YOUR OWN PERIL. You will realize what a complete fool you have been, when you are in your 60s, alone, the rest of your family members all passed away, with no savings and maybe $ 500 left in EPF. Tell me, who is going to help you then ? Your generous, caring, Malaysian Welfare Department ? You can talk, shout, plea, cry till the end of time. Nobody will come to help you. |
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Dec 29 2019, 07:14 AM
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Dec 29 2019, 07:19 AM
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Dec 29 2019, 11:10 AM
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I have an unpopular opinion.
EPF is a forced ponzi scheme unto the working masses. Your monthly contributions is enough to pay the small 5~6% yearly. Like the banks, if too many people withdraw, a situation similar to a bank run will happen. The fund managers of EPF and KWAP at the top do the investing and does lots of shitty investments. Giving out RM 55billion in unsecured loans (https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/179848) to RM 4 billion giving to 1mdb and gone (http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/najib-setuju-src-pinjam-rm3-95b-duit-kwap-208809). From bond scams and then to KWSP catching fire and coincidentally the documents were lost. (http://www.sarawakreport.org/2018/02/ten-billion-in-bonds-looted-from-epf-to-raise-four-billion-dollars-for-najib-explosive-exclusive-2/) And the list just continues.. These are just assumptions as EPF do not show to the public their statement of where exactly each ringgit of the contributor's money is being invested yearly. Yearly financial reports are very brief and just highlights of which sector etc. Any Tom Dick and Harry can create those reports like in University coursework presentations. Lacks of information exactly where each ringgit go to, which company and how much etc. This post has been edited by Fanvil1534: Dec 29 2019, 11:25 AM |
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Dec 30 2019, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Dec 29 2019, 11:10 AM) I have an unpopular opinion. Short answer :EPF is a forced ponzi scheme unto the working masses. Your monthly contributions is enough to pay the small 5~6% yearly. Like the banks, if too many people withdraw, a situation similar to a bank run will happen. The fund managers of EPF and KWAP at the top do the investing and does lots of shitty investments. Giving out RM 55billion in unsecured loans (https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/179848) to RM 4 billion giving to 1mdb and gone (http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/najib-setuju-src-pinjam-rm3-95b-duit-kwap-208809). From bond scams and then to KWSP catching fire and coincidentally the documents were lost. (http://www.sarawakreport.org/2018/02/ten-billion-in-bonds-looted-from-epf-to-raise-four-billion-dollars-for-najib-explosive-exclusive-2/) And the list just continues.. These are just assumptions as EPF do not show to the public their statement of where exactly each ringgit of the contributor's money is being invested yearly. Yearly financial reports are very brief and just highlights of which sector etc. Any Tom Dick and Harry can create those reports like in University coursework presentations. Lacks of information exactly where each ringgit go to, which company and how much etc. The masses wants a forced saving scheme. Msia fidiuciary governance is very strict (compare to our u counterparts in the region, also 1MDB isolated case lulz) So the event of a bank run in the near future is highly unlikely Gua respect lu opinion But gua just remind lu EPF lu so pessimistic aledy There is no financial product in the world can satisfy lu |
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Jan 2 2020, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 25 2019, 05:30 PM) Learn to pay yourself first before anything else. good info.I have max my EPF contribution as an employee at 35%, then add in my own self-contribution. I must say it's rather satisfying to see the money grows every year. I wish I know it earlier but rather a little late than never. Cheers to all. Make RM1 million your goal for EPF saving so what is the maximum EPF contribution beyond statutory ? 100% ? |
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