The work from home is a good benefit. The pay is quite competitive. I assume your work is not really impacted by Covid then, given the nature of the job itself.

I hear you, bro. As evidenced in my updated post, this pandemic has affected great swathes of people across all industries in almost every country.

Cheers up guys. I'm 33 and not even 4K yet. Worked for 10 years already with few different companies but without any clear career direction. I was aware of this thread and read some of the post few years ago but didn't motivate me to do anything.

But come this year, I start to realise that I've pretty much work most of that 10 years for nothing (in terms of experience/work knowledge). I notice that a lot of high earner here are pretty focus or perhaps they know what they want from the start of their career. Asked for some opinions on this thread and got meaningful advices. And I started working on areas that I can improve.

My advice, don't compare what the others earn but maybe you can get some helps/tips. Maybe share your current situation and ask what improvement can be done.

I’m not from the IT field but I’ve been based in Singapore for the past 30 years, so I can offer a local perspective on the job environment at the moment: and it’s bad. Officially, tens of thousands of locals have been let go, and 3 times the number of foreigners. Unofficially, who knows.

It might be hard to for a fresh grad to look for a job as employees are pressured to hire locals.

Just to let you know so you can make a balanced decision. Good luck!

Impossible to get this kind of pay working as a salary man in malaysia at that age in my opinion..

Hi all, would RM16K be considered just average or above average pay for a 35 year old? Professional services line

Just changed jobs so update:

Job Title : Consulting Manager
Job Description : Make Powerpoint slides
Age : 34
Years spent in company : 1st year
Company : MNC
Industry : Consulting
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 11 Yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): estimate 50-60 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 19k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : No idea yet

Benefits (where relevant) : Medical, Optical, Dental, etc.
Health Benefits : Medical card
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Flexi Working Hours :
Other Benefits : Got but can't remember

What kind of Consulting? Enterprise solutions like ERP systems, or IT systems?

i remember u make decent money with ur current role right? why decide to switch to consulting?

Wat industry u working in now? IT?

Wat u making now? I think some of the PM (senior ones),  seems to be making decent money, like 15k or more.

Who do you report to? Head of PMO?

Honestly, ur pay is considered on the mid-senior level already. In big banks, probably higher end of mid but in smaller banks, considered senior. Ur rank may not be, and that is likely a product of ur performance and ur boss takes a liking to u.

If I remember, u are also young right? Can take time to switch laterally, but likely need to stagnate at current level for a bit

Found ur previous post, u just changed job?

35 is still young, not even half way into ur career.

Ur pay is definitely not AVP pay (I have seen AVP with close to ur pay before, but those have been stuck at AVP for a long time, and I don't think u want to compare to them), more like VP pay (what most banks call VP anyway). Trust me, some of the directors also around ur pay only.

Also, this is the first I heard, pay increased 3 times in a year? How does that work?

Yes and no.

After going around for a bit, I realised that not everything can be learnt easily, even generic skills like stakeholder management or project management.  Of course, it is easier to learn those than technical skills like IT or Portfolio Management or Treasury or Risk, but it is still a skill that not many has.

U can look around u, how many Project Owners or HoD has good stakeholder management or timeline management skill? In project implementation, it is possible to do away with the PMO role, but how many Project Directors are capable of dual-hatting as PMO as well? Probably 1 or 2 out of 10? And those are usually outstanding HoDs themselves as well.

So I think ur situation is not as dire as u made it out of, but I wouldn't say that u don't have a point.

Edit: forgot to mention, process knowledge is also a skill which despite being easy to learn, still takes time

one more thing, since u were recently promoted, why are u looking out so soon? i know ur anxiety, but i think there is still some room to grow in terms of salary.

Why not try internal job posting? You mentioned that you currently work in a bank doing projects, if you have done projects for other countries before, I am sure it will be easier to look for a job in another country internally as you have the network rather than looking externally.

Just for reference, not sure if my pay fits my role

Job Title : Project Manager
Job Description : Manage internal projects for APAC region, mainly China/HK
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 1+ years, with 2+ years of experience as external consultant to the company.
Company : Bank
Industry : Financial
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years of project management, 4 years of developer
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree with PMP
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM9700
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-3 months, subject to performance

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medicard, dental, optical
Other Benefits : 3 days work from home per week

Wow that is a very nice offer you got there. Mind to share if it is a local bank?