Off topic, but after seeing posts from this forum I'd like to have some input.

I'm 22, currently a medical student and am thinking of dropping the course. I still have 3 years left and to keep it short, I feel like the lifestyle isn't for me.

Would definitely like some input on some career options where I could start working without a degree. Currently looking for a career where I can progress along the way and have a clear career path.

I appreciate your help. Thanks!

hey, thanks for the advice  I don't really have anything set in mind yet. could I PM you more about COE side of HR if you don't mind?

Just got a new job offer, will sign the offer letter next monday.

old job

Job Title : Hospital Pharmacist
Job Desciption : ask people take drug
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 5
Industry : hospital
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : bachelor
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 6200
Contractual Bonus (months): nil
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4 months

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical

New job

Job Title : Hospital Pharmacist
Job Desciption : Force people take drug
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 0 (New)
Industry : Hospital
Employment Level : Senior executive
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 8000
Contractual Bonus (months): to be updated
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : to be updated

still did not manage to achieve my target salary of 10k by 30y/o.

probably by 32 you will hit, no worries.

now, move on to your next target 15k by 35 and 20k by 40!

I also missed my first milestone by some 2 years, but manage to hit 2nd milestone, thereabouts.

As one who managed to achieve it by being in one company, it all depends on your own initiative. No one will help you chart your path or tell you what to do. You need to know what you want to do, then work it out with your company how you want to achieve it. If you want to aim for a higher salary by being promoted, then its not about being good at your current job. You need to prove that you can already perform at the next level. Document all of your achievements, all of your discussions and target with your line manager/supervisor. Make sure that you yourself chart out a career path you want to achieve and then find validation whether that is achievable internally whether again it is with your supervisor/line manager/HR. If all things seem unlikely, then start building up your personal portfolio of achievements and find out what roles you want to apply for outside. Don't use whatever you have now at your current workplace in terms of achievement because all that shows is that you are just performing at your current level. If the role you want out there is a management role, then start finding as many opportunities to show that your initiative and effort in trying to build your skills in that area. For example, if you dont have a chance to say lead a team at your current role, find out initiatives within your company where you can be the lead (e.g. such as leading a team building event or leading a new initiative).

If you just think of a 5% annual increment, you will wait forever before you reach a RM10k salary.

Do company would want to employ those people without any experience in management?

Job Title :Recruiting Manager
Age : 35
Years spent in company :2 (just got new offer)
Company : 6 +years in an agency, 3 years internal
Industry : Tech
Tenure : 10 years
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Business
Location : KL -  Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 8 hours a day

24 YO - Management Trainee Program, KL. Fresh Grad RM3500 > RM 4500 (second year)
26 YO - Joined a big recruitment firm in KL. Associate Consultant RM5.2K  + (10K commission monthly)
27 YO-  Promoted to Consultant 6.5K + (10K commission monthly)
28 YO - Promoted to Senior Consultant 7.5K (+10K commission monthly)
30 YO  -Promoted to Team Leader 10K (+12K commission monthly + over riding from team); increment 11K base after 10 months.

Agency Recruitment : Averaging RM240-278K take home yearly by billing MYR 1M yearly on average.

... moved to Singapore...
32 YO - Joined in-house Recruiting in Singapore 9K SGD
34 YO - Switched company 12KSGD + 15% bonus + 100K USD equity vested across 4 years
35 YO - New offer at 13K SGD + 15% bonus + 60K USD equity vested across 4 years

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : everything included, 6 months mat leave/4 months paternity, 10K baby bonus, wellness allowance
Transport Benefits :1K yearly
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Free company phone iphone 12, macbook
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : 20 days PTO/year + 6 days childcare leave

Wondering why the move to sg when you’re taking close to 23k myr per month vs only 9k SGD?

Try not to limit yourself to a mindset of RM20k by 40. I had that once and it limited a lot of what I did and mindset. It is very possible to hit more than 20k even when you are 35.

I started my legal career only at 24 years old after having successfully completed all my studies. The legal career remuneration varies between firms, and certainly some pays more, whereas some lesser.

|Age 23: RM3700 - Snr. Exec (Marketing & Sales)
|Age 24: RM2000 - Pupil
|Age 25: RM4200 - 1st Year practice
|Age 26: RM4600 - 2nd Year practice
|Age 27: RM5416 - 3rd Year practice
|Age 28: RM6041 - 4th Year practice
|Age 29: RM7142 - 5th Year practice (see details below on 5th Year)
Job Title : Senior Associate
Job Desciption : Corporate Lawyer
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 2.5 years
Company : Law firm
Industry : Legal services
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 2 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Law Bachelor, Law Master, Practice Certificate, Business Master
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hours and during peak up to 60 hours.

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : Basic RM6500 + Upfront bonus of RM542 = RM7,142
Contractual Bonus (months): Nil.
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 3-4 months (exclude upfront bonuses)

Benefits (where relevant) : Dental & Optical (RM500/year), Work Laptop and Monitor
Health Benefits : Group medical coverage
Transport Benefits : Parking provided.
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : RM200 monthly mobile allowance (on claim-basis)
Flexi Working Hours : -
Other Benefits : Remote Work - I have worked from home for 2 years (due to Covid and permissible to do so)

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[Departing from law practice. The path to a firm's partnership is not meant for everyone. The crux is that even if you have obtained that designation as a Partner, you are still an employee as you are not an 'equity' Partner, and which is another league. Further, there will still be other Partners who are more 'senior' than you. Behold that all wonderful remunerations and bonuses comes with immense performance of KPIs to fulfill which goes without saying. My pursuit, ultimately, is to set up my own practice - to stand on my own feet. For now, I'm taking on an in-house role with supposedly more work-life balance and with this breather time, I'll start to make plans.]

<Accepting a new offer pending letter - expect to serve my notice period of 1/3 month, as new company intends to buyout 2 months.>

Job Title : Legal Manager
Job Desciption : In-house legal - M&A
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0 years
Company : Start-up
Industry : E-commerce
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level / Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 4-5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Law Bachelor, Law Master, Practice Certificate, Business Master
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): Expecting 40-50 hours.

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : Basic RM9,000 [Expected RM9.5-10K, I was low-balled and finally ending with this figure.]
Contractual Bonus (months): Nil.
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 20% of annual salary.

Benefits (where relevant) : Work Laptop
Health Benefits : Group medical coverage
Transport Benefits : Nil.
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Nil.
Flexi Working Hours : -
Other Benefits : Remote Work, ESOP, SGD180 Reimbursements for Remote Work (on claim basis).

Off topic, but after seeing posts from this forum I'd like to have some input.

I'm 22, currently a medical student and am thinking of dropping the course. I still have 3 years left and to keep it short, I feel like the lifestyle isn't for me.

Would definitely like some input on some career options where I could start working without a degree. Currently looking for a career where I can progress along the way and have a clear career path.

I appreciate your help. Thanks!

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My meager journey.