yes. same job scope and position. one level below c-suite. will try as i am not sure what is the pay scale in singapore.

i will choose 22k instead. why?
family, friends, your country.

highcost in sg too

22k myr of course. You can live comfortably in Malaysia with that salary.

Don't be shy, be frank to them why you want to come back, this company nicer, etc etc, not sure what is your personal issues. I hope you didn't actually burn your bridge back there. From my experience, even if you reject their counter offer 3 times, they will most probably still be happy to have you back.

sgd if u plan to further your career outside asia. myr for family and comfort

That's underpaid... Try nego to get SGD13-15k...

Regarding your question, depends on age and status...

If youre single, by all means go..

If youre married with kids, RM22k is comfortable..

don't man, never look back

What's an acceptable increment for someone earning ~4k, mid 20s, 2 yr experience, within the financial industry?

I got 8% but not sure what to make of this. Previously company didn't get increment as I jumped ship just before.

8% is pretty standard in the industry nowadays. If you work in banks you get only 4-6% but the bonus will be better than yours (in general).

Does your company make it clear the increment is from market adjustment or is it your real increment?

You can't just put the word 'acceptable increment' for what age and how many years of experience.

It boils down to your line of expertise, performance, job scope, whether you're in the revenue generating department, your profession / certification, your skill set and so much more. There's literally no acceptable increment. Some people may feel 8% is acceptable, some may say otherwise. There isn't any clearly defined benchmark on this.

Coming from FI background maybe I could share a word or two. I'm in the backend / operations department, and typical increment is about 6%. In fact, 4-6% is a number pretty standard everywhere in the world, regardless of your field. However the best increment I've got back then is 16%, and that's largely because I was involved in some spotlight projects with high interest from key stakeholders, and had to clock numerous hours for several months. I was 25 back then.

If you're in the actuary department and a top performer, you will notice >15% increment is a normal occurrence.

I don't have a view on your performance and your job scope, but 8% is honestly beyond OK. Not great, but not bad either.

No, this is just the "increment". I've not been told it is market adjustment.

If you ever go back, don't ever think about getting any new offer outside in the future. Why? Because HR will definitely ask you why you work only 3mths in new company before jumping back to your previous company. And you will have to answer the second question from them which is "How can we be sure that you will not do the same thing again after we hired you?"


ooii..mana urs?

Many people choose not to disclose their unpleasant work experience in their resume. For example, promised upon ABC job scope during interview but ended up doing XYZ, or some unprofessional work ethics was uncovered only after started working, and had to leave within few months for own good.

Like a friend of mine, was promised to work on some mobile app but ended up coding illegal gambling systems and he left and joined a new company.

You can either be honest and tell your new employer about your experience, or just tell them you took a break in between, or even make it like it never happened.

I guess, is time to move on. Been searching for new careers for the past week.

BTW, no other departments, just a small firm with 8 people.

Your friend case is different cause its illegal work.

Making it like it never happened works for small company or when you went from A->B->C. Going from A->blank->A in that short period makes no sense no matter how honest you want to be simply because you think what you want to think and HR and the hiring manager has the right to think what they want to think. Also if its same industry, its much easier to get the news. Plus, there are enough threads in the forum itself that tells you the reality that its not going to work unless you ada cable or rich.

hi unker party. where's what mine? my salary post?

dont want la. shy. i am kecik miao only...

Hmm I don't get it when you quoted "don't ever think about getting any new offer outside in the future".

Let's say he went from A -> B (3 months) -> A (for a few years maybe) -> C

How is C going to know the existence of B if you don't say anything at all?

of course, possible to check with EPF if they want to be stringent in checking.

actually other than that, i don't think it's possible to check. unless you submit those documents.

Aiya...5 figure d still kecik meh.

If you small kuli and C is small company, C wont know.
If you small kuli and C is big company and same indutry, they can know
If you big kuli and C is big company, defi will know

For Financial industry, it has become mandatory to share as they need to check your previous employment. Effective last year july if not wrong.

For others, I am not HR so not exactly sure but big company has it ways. Of course, not all things are wonderful and sometimes you can escape from it.

But for big salary, its easy to know because you have to submit documents in order HR to assist you for income tax monthly deduction (PCB) unless you report wrong amount intentionally.