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post May 14 2007, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(~hunter~ @ May 13 2007, 07:30 PM)
Can i ask some question here..

Does an OEM proc of 3800 sc939 must put a thermaltake if i'm changing a proc.. icon_question.gif

Hope didn't need to put since running out of cash.. cry.gif

If need then hav to borrow from brthr.. brows.gif
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If you're not overclocking, then the stock heatsink is adequate.

If you want to overclock, then it is better to buy a third-party heatsink.

Note : Thermaltake is only one of the many choices you can find.....
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post May 16 2007, 09:44 PM

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I've never encountered this (but I had to reinstall my whole windows!! BSOD!)

Have you reset your bios?
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post Jun 2 2007, 08:10 PM

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Looks ok to me. However, you're supposed to disable the new performance state policy behaviour by putting a "0" (Zero) rather than "1"

You can read the microsoft guide again. The following is what they say:

Note : This solution favors performance gains over power savings (when you disable the new performance state policy behaviour). Although benchmark performance scores may improve, battery life could be negatively affected. Accordingly, this kernel policy change may be disabled by a registry key to allow for maximum flexibility. (I guess this is for notebooks, then can put "1")

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post Jun 3 2007, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Jun 3 2007, 12:47 AM)
But according quite alot peeps in http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...?t=81429&page=2

Saying its "1" to enable mah... "0" kinda defeats the purpose... no?.. rolleyes.gif

Btw, even the peeps there saying that MS making ppl confused abt it.

Anywayz, heres another proof to put "1".
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modl...rticle&sid=3964

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Edit DWORD Value box, type 1. In the Value data box, make sure that Hexadecimal is selected, and then click OK.
8. Quit Registry Editor.


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I know what you mean. You have to realise that the post was posted by somebody. I'm just following microsofts website's guide:

"7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.

Note You can type 1 in the Value data box to enable the new performance state policy behavior."

After I've read many enquiries on this function, I also did notice that many people were confused on whether to set it to 0 or 1.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 3 2007, 12:58 AM)
i use one too. not sure wat it does tho. cant notice much difference. lol...
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Ya, it's true that there may not be a difference. I found out about all these guides/hotfixes when I had the speedups/lags. Only after following all those steps did I managed to fix my problems.... thumbup.gif
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post Jun 9 2007, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(vixxiee @ Jun 8 2007, 11:12 AM)
Things to do when X2 CPU installed
1) Reset your bios on boot-up

as i'm using a8n mobo...the board will automatically reset BIOS CPU and Memory timings to default...so just plug and skip this option rite??

just start reinstall windows..
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Yup. Don't have to reset the BIOS if it automatically resets for you. Nice feature thought.... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(XOFJ @ Jun 9 2007, 02:44 AM)
Thanks for the guide!  notworthy.gif My X2 system are running fine and smooth right now! Going to enjoy it for a few next years before doing a major upgrade!  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Ya lo. I'm thinking of whether my upgraded rig can last another few years. I think not as I want to play DX10 games when it comes out......
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QUOTE(normaron @ Aug 20 2007, 11:04 PM)
I have problem with the driver, after downloaded, i can't install because it is asking me uninstall the old driver of my cpu. If i try uninstall my old cpu driver, it will ask me to restart my comp and after restart it will auto install the driver but not the latest 1. So i keep cannot install the latest driver downloaded from the link that u have posted.

Can any1 help me?
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Which driver are you talking about? From my limited experience, I didn't face such problems..... hmm.gif

QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 21 2007, 12:13 AM)
reading all this making me scared... i'm gonna get my x2 n mobo within a week...

ATHLON 64 X2 DUAL 3.0Ghz 6000+
Abit NF-M2S

am i gonna face the same prob?
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New rig or upgrading from single-core to dual-core?

If it is new rig, then the process should be easy..... smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2007, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Aug 21 2007, 05:47 PM)
it's a new rig...
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OIC. I'm not too sure about new rig as my experience with the X2 was from upgrading single-core to dual-core.

However, I think the installation of the newest AMD CPU driver together with the hotfixes and optimiser should apply to all X2. Unless of course, microsoft has updated their windows patches.... hmm.gif
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post Nov 2 2007, 08:17 PM

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All the details is in the first page. If you're using vista, shouldn't be a problem.... smile.gif
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post Nov 2 2007, 10:04 PM

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Yup. smile.gif

Pls note that this is quite old info, maybe there is newer info smile.gif
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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Nov 2 2007, 10:26 PM)
just that AMD released a newer version of dual core driver
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I see. I checked the link, luckily it is still the same site with the updated driver. smile.gif
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Nov 3 2007, 08:24 AM)
How much can i sell my 3000+ now.. rm 80-100..? coz if can sell at that price means i can get a dual core 360+ already.. XD..
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Yeah, probably around that much.... you can try your luck in garage sales.... smile.gif

QUOTE(Amal @ Nov 3 2007, 03:18 PM)
i juz upgraded to the new x2 3800 from 3000+..
my system kept on restarting while i benchmark my system by using 3dmark05 or 06..
when i change to x2, i did not install the hotfix, but it automatically update the driver itself.. after restart, then i can see there's 2 graph on the cpu taskmanager..
already installed the dual core optimizer, but still the same..

do i really need to install the hotfix? afraid it will get worst such as BSOD or OS hang.. sad.gif
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By right, even if you do not install any hotfix or updates, your computer shouldn't restart or BSOD. It must be something else. Did you reset the bios? What vcore is your x2 running at now (and what's the stock vcore)?
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QUOTE(Amal @ Nov 3 2007, 07:52 PM)
yup, already reset the bios by removing the batt..
my current vcore is at  1.35 same as stock..

i do notice a bit that my gc temperature rise high a bit faster than usual since i installed the x2..
could it be my mobo is faulty?
already update the bios to the latest one..
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You don't have to remove battery to reset the bios/cmos. Just need to short the jumpers only. Look at the mobo manual.

Nope. The X2 is hotter and thus your system will be slightly hotter.

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 3 2007, 11:45 PM)
if AM2 single core upgrade to dual core need to follow the step ?
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Dunno. Never used AM2. Should be the same as 939.....
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QUOTE(Amal @ Nov 4 2007, 08:20 AM)
finally problem resolve with my x2..
what i did was i decrease the voltage for the vcore on my cpu to a very low voltage 1.25v.. then i manage to oc my x2 to 2.4ghz easily.. and can run all of the 3dmark smoothly.. smile.gif
will try to oc more later..

do u think it will effect the cpu in the future if i use a low voltage??
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Weird. Was your initial vcore at auto (1.35v) or did you put it at 1.35v exactly?

No, no problems in the long run, in fact, if your rig is stable, undervolting the CPU is better! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Amal @ Nov 4 2007, 04:15 PM)
i set it to auto inside the bios.. so it set it at 1.35 as default.. then i install an application to detect the vcore of my cpu..
the vcore were not stable, sometimes it goes to 1.45 from 1.35..
that's y i lower the voltage..

tried oc it more to 2.6ghz.. seems stable for a while, but then shut down..
i lowered the voltage more to 1.225v.. now its very stable as normal..  biggrin.gif

will oc it more later on..  tongue.gif

conclusion: issue solved because of the voltage.. does anyone face this kinda problem before?
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Eh! If that is the case, your system is not stable because of the high fluctuation in voltage. The vcore shouldn't fluctuate so much. Must be either your mobo or your PSU.

Normally, if you set 1.35v, the vcore will be slightly lower at load, usually - this is called vdroop. I've never seen a rig that has higher vcore on load!!! rclxub.gif

Well, if it is stable at 1.225v, then by all means, run it at that vcore.... would be good for your system too! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Nov 4 2007, 09:50 PM)
im very noob in this BIOS stuff so if i dun dare do it can send to shop and do right..? do they know these procedures..? laugh.gif
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Should be. Ask them and see. Some of them also noob in software.... smile.gif
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That's the CPU driver. It's different from the optimizer. Look in the first page, the links are provided..... smile.gif You need to install all of them....
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Should be. As long as your mobo supports it, just follow the instructions and you'll get dual core capabilities! rclxms.gif Make sure you fit the heatsink back properly....
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QUOTE(akachester @ Nov 5 2007, 09:52 PM)
Any idea what might be the safe range for voltage on the NB and how to raise the HTT? Sorry quite noob in this..LOL..

Was having problem with my Opty and my DFI. Thanks..
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Haha, long time no talk. Eh, I thought you know such things?

Anyway, I never played with the NB voltage for my 939 so I don't really know either.

What do you mean by increasing the HTT? Is it the multiplier or the frequency? In general, you don't overclock the HTT, especially not more than 1000mhz. Usually reduced the multiplier as you increase the fsb. smile.gif
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I see. So what's the problem and what is your rig's setting (FSB, HTT multiplier, CPU speed)? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(InnerMax @ Nov 26 2007, 07:33 PM)
Anybody got any ideas if x2 AM2 got the same problem also??
And is there any diff if using x2 proc with vista? I'm using it right now.
This is interesting issue here, really good work guys.
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AM2 also has the same problem if you upgrade from a single-core to a dual-core.

However, this problems only applies to XP. No worries if you're using Vista.

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:55 PM)
me really want to know also ....because using am2 ..the guide very complicated?how to reset bios ?noob here
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Errr..... I've made the guide as simple as possible wor...... wink.gif

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