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zltan
post Jul 8 2008, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(audio0316 @ Jul 8 2008, 09:53 PM)
I heard IMU trains the PMS option students better, but how true is it? I thought everyone in one intake fits in one class no? It's not lecture theater style is it?
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Students who desire to do twinning with the PMS usually do better in their studies because you need to be good to be selected by most international medical schools. They do not want a half-baked student. Thus, PMS students are usually better.
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post Jul 23 2008, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(�GLyCogEn� @ Jul 21 2008, 05:52 PM)
I wish to go IMU to study Medicine... I wanna ask everyone here... Can i go straight to medicine something like poly ??? If i am damn sure to study medicine ?
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Glycogen is a polymer of glucose, if that is what you're asking...
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post Jul 23 2008, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(�GLyCogEn� @ Jul 23 2008, 02:48 PM)
Sorry , i mean if i confirm to study medicine can i go straight away to study its course ( not sure izzit degree or ...)  without going Pre-U . ??? Or is a must to study Pre U first ?
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What qualifications do you currently have?
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jul 26 2008, 12:29 AM)
yeah they said told me just need 80 for my average since i'm not doing year 12 =/ dunno. but thanks. =)
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Is it most probably 80%, since IMU would not be able to convert 80% to TER because they do not know how well your cohort did. But, 80% is shockingly low....it may most probably mean the minimum score you need to be considered.

May I ask why you are aiming for IMU instead of unis such as Queensland, Deakin, Monash...etc? You are after all doing foundation in Australia, and if you wanted IMU, you should have just stayed back in Malaysia for SAM or something.
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post Jul 28 2008, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(riverslee @ Jul 26 2008, 07:24 PM)
I know this may sound kinda stupid but my definition for good is easy to study and fairly average results to qualify for medicine. I'm just asking , don't feel offended : P
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Don't aim for IMU....aim for Manipal
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post Aug 4 2008, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 1 2008, 04:52 PM)
I seriously doubt that Melbourne U will take in people like you.  doh.gif
Have you been to Manipal? Any evidence from your side to support your claim? You should know what's evidence based medicine right?  shakehead.gif Pls apply this concept before making any claim or statement.
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They did, so deal with it.

I base my argument on the degree of recognition of a university. The more globally recognized it is, the better it is.
Take the Malaysian Matriculation for example, will you agree with me that it is shit compared to something like STPM or A-levels?
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post Nov 1 2008, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(terrabyte @ Nov 1 2008, 08:44 PM)
Hi,I recently got accepted to study medicine (PMS) in IMU, Feb intake. I've got a few inquiries related to the course.

1) Since past year papers are not provided in IMU, are there any other specific papers which students are advised to attempt first before sitting for the exam?Back in high school and college, i realized that i personally would not be able to score if i prepared for the exam by solely reading and obtaining in formations from the book.I personally find it essential to try out papers related to the exam.

2) Is it true that students are booted out from the university straight if they failed any one subject in the exam? Are they not given a chance to retake the papers which they failed?

3) Would studying the notes given by lecturers suffice helping me obtain high marks in the exams?

Thanks.
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1. You could try asking your seniors. Past exam papers are usually supplied...there will be at least a sample paper for you to do. Do note that they will generally not provide the answers (in exception of MCQs) and you would not know how they mark the paper.
2. Those who fail would have to answer to a progress committee and do a supplementary exam, if they fail that exam-they will need to redo the semester or get kicked out
3. Notes by the lecturers would enable you to pass. If you want high marks(80+), you would need to do extra reading.

I'm not from IMU, but my answers can be applied generally to most medical schools

I don't think getting into IMU automatically means getting into the PMS option.
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post May 22 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(bluzstar @ May 22 2009, 03:37 PM)
Oh no, that means no more uni of melbourne
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August 08 will be the last batch being able to twin with Melbourne Uni.

Melbourne Uni is transitioning into its M.D medical course, with its first intake in 2011.
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post May 23 2009, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 23 2009, 03:52 AM)
lots of people will disagree with you, and certainly unis like edinburgh, uq, , even unsw will beg to differ.....

melb's 'prestige' is all about branding, rather than actually being significantly better, and they flogged their ranking status (once the highest ranked oz uni) to death by charging significantly more fees from international students, who, the majority it seems, are willing to part with their money just so they have the dubious prestige of having a melb degree...........
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Not really. Melbourne Uni's current medical course is probably the best in Australia. Some universities have approached Melbourne to 'borrow' our PBL cases and train their tutors.

The branding probably comes with the other courses like Commerce or Engineering.

But, then again, I may be bias.

So, its up to you to decide.

CR7: If you ever come here, our semester 2 mean was about 70%.
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post May 26 2009, 09:16 AM

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What amuses me about IMU is how they name their exams.

1. OSPE

Conventional: OSCE (Objective Structured Clinical Examination)

2. OBA

Conventional: MCQ (Multiple choice questions)

It just makes it a bit confusing when people twin with other unis.




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post May 27 2009, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 27 2009, 09:18 AM)
Agree on what Limeuu said on the last part, I have a few friends who're looking to cheaper institute just because they cannot affort, for me I think they deserve better.

btw limeuu, I got rejected for Feb intake in IMU. Reason? They said that my academic score is too low. 4 of my friends from the same school applied. All got rejected. Not to brag, but we're considerably high in terms of academic scoring in our syllabus. Reason? IMU takes for granted of the scoring and doesnt care bout the different marking schemes of each institute. (example, most foundations here use top 3 marks from the best 3 subjects for an average, then converts to TER, + scaling of course, but ours' dont =( they have their own marking scheme and syllabus, system that is designed just for a particular university.) Was a bit angry with them on selection process really. If you said I failed the interview I don't mind. But yeah. just my 2 cents, got over it. =)
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The thing about foundation courses is that they don't rank you, but you get a guaranteed entry into university if you make a certain grade.

For Australian Medical Schools, you'll probably not get in if you score anything below 92%.

IMU probably doesn't want to take in anything below 90%, as it is already a ridiculously easy score to achieve. Remember, there are other foundation courses in Australia and a lot of people want to do med, but can't make the score.

IMU will give preference to those with a higher average before considering the rest.

Out of curiosity, what was your average mark and what subjects did you take?




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post May 28 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Gorila_ @ May 28 2009, 04:37 PM)
Let me tell you this, MOST of IMU student dont want lectures to be more than 2 hours a day... Reasons, I dont know, maybe they missed their family that much???

I have a pharmacology lecturer who is very dedicated to his job... Knowing that he may not be able to finish his lectures in time, he asked us wether to find another time slot for extra lecture... Guess what, more than half of the class dont want it... In the end, he has to rush the lecture... Then he asked us again, do we want an Q&A session for the extra time slot since we booked the lecture hall... Again, Majority dont want it... Some of them even curses that he dont know how to manage his time!!!!!

Its the mentality of the students, they think they are smarter than the lecturer... In the end who looses, us. Since I'm here, I can tell you that even those who studied form 6 also rejects the class... Form 6 makes one more mature, I doubt it... This is sad case for M'sia student...
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If I were the lecturer, I'll just go through the lecture quickly in 1 hour and on my final slide, I'll put up a note saying Read Rang and Dale Chapter X.

For the exam, I'll make them do a whole mechanism of something I only mentioned once in the lecture.
And for MCQs, its gonna be a whole lot of tiny tiny detailed questions.

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post Jun 30 2009, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Jun 30 2009, 02:26 AM)
wait, on the site melbourne is still listed as a PMS?? and according to zltan, the incoming batch will be joining up with his batch after they have completed the research stint.

any tips for sem 3?? pretty long semester in my opinion. and quite tough too.
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That would seem logical, but you still need to confirm with IMU.

For Sem 3:

Cardio should be quite straight forward.
Resp is probably the hardest system.
Haematology is easy.
GI should be pretty straight forward too.
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post Jul 24 2009, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(herbalifemalaysia @ Jul 24 2009, 04:16 PM)
guys i just read the documents they sent us *_* i want elaboration on the 'hair-do' section....CANT YOU WEAR your long hair wth? you have to tie it up at all times? OMG I CAN SHOOT MYSELF RIGHT NOW*_* this is by far the corniest rule there can ever be *_* urgh
they can't force me to chop my hair off to 'collar length' right?
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No, cause they totally love it when your hair drops all over when you bend to examine a patient.

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post Sep 11 2009, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Sep 11 2009, 12:00 PM)
so i guess, if anybody has the will, they can become a doctor, regardless of their academic achievement. they just have to work hard for it.
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I disagree. You need to be of a certain caliber to be accepted into medical schools. You need to be naturally smart.

Its the same as any other thing in real life.

You need to be a good at art to be a visual artist.
You need to be strong and agile to win the olympic gold medal.

This is the reason why Russian medical schools fail terribly.

Being hardworking is also essential, but you really do need that baseline academic mark. I've spoken to numerous Australian Medical Students (Melbourne Uni) and they are all mostly duxes of their schools.

The amazing thing is that a very large percentage of them are also very involved in community service, music and sports.

Perfection much?

Sadly, this case is not the case in Malaysian public examinations, where straight As are obtained by perfecting the exam techniques, reliance on 'leaked/spot' questions and the blur delineation between good and average students.

I think an A1 for any subject should be >90% (>95% for maths and add maths).

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post Sep 16 2009, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Sep 16 2009, 01:02 AM)
if melbourne still affiliated with IMU? cause the last i checked, melb wasn't listed as one of the PMS choices for the m207 batch.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 16 2009, 08:20 AM)
the graduate entry programme is under a separate stream now.....but, under the new arrangements, i really do not see anyone wanting to partner to melbourne or sydney.........or even anu........
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Its 3 1/2 + 4 for melbourne.

The Melbourne MD is actually 4 years on its own, so I don't see the point of actually going through IMU to get into Melbourne when you could just do a 3 year degree and apply for admission to Melbourne anyway.

Does the IMU stream exempt them from doing the GAMSAT or the interview? If it is, then it'll be a backdoor entry at the expense of wasting a year.


The BMedSci year *might* be useful depending on how much effort you put in + how well your research goes. Always aim for a publication.

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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Nov 2 2009, 01:47 AM)
i didn't notice if all the meqs are from PBLs. and i can't remember any of the meq qws i got last time :/ (i got one on crohn's disease)
as for the bs and cm qws... i honestly just tembak most of them. yes, some are just common sense, but some are really specific and weird (i think i had one oba where they asked which emotion would a patient feel after he/she had a heart attack. or some weird crap like that. and the answers were really close to each other (anxiety, anger, sadness, can't remember the other options)).
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You can best describe the emotion after a heart attack as a 'sense of impending doom'. (also used for pulsatile release of cathecholamines...but thats another story) Ie. The patient will feel very very very scared that they are about to die. This is a very important point in history taking.
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I have no idea how people cope with 8 hours worth of lectures everyday. I have 6 lectures A WEEK and I'm already killing myself studying for the exam. My notes (already condensed) are as thick as a textbook. And thats for 1 subject! (We have 2)

Those are just lecture materials, not including tute and prac stuff rclxub.gif

But of course, I have been very dedicated in re-listening to the recorded lecture and looking up textbooks/internet to compile those notes. + the colourful layout makes it interesting to read. I'm proud of my notes wub.gif

CyberSetan, how many hours or lectures do you have during your pre-clinicals?

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Nov 12 2009, 02:33 AM)
neuroanatomy and MSK go to through?
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I think its universal that neuroscience and anatomy will turn your brain inside out rclxub.gif , especially when cranial nerves are taught in 2 lectures
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I can see their reluctance to include Melbourne for final MBBS intake. (commencing 2011)

The lucky few will be spending one semester of pre-clinicals with grad students before joining the rest of the undergrads in clinicals.

There is a clear disadvantage for IMU students. Although you have probably already know the contents of semester 5 (immunology, microbiology, oncology, public health etc.), it'll still be a struggle. Most grads have a few years of hospital and work experience as well as previous knowledge from their undergrad degree.

Being new to Australia and well as the Australian health system, it will most likely be a pretty hard.

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