zltan, are u sure u know what are u talking about? lol

(IMO) Be it Vista Commonwealth or Savanna, it is not very important, everyone survives vista's wrath even before Savanna was built. It is the friends you made in IMU that made all the differences. It would be the dinners, suppers, outings and group-procrastinations with your friends that you will miss after 2.5 years in BJ.

Your score doesnt mean anything, you still may not qualify if you were to compete fairly with your peers in Malaysia; and selection in IMU is not considered competitive compared to UK or Aus if you were a local student there. Dont brag with your 4 As.

Herballife : I think we have both got each other wrong. What I meant was in UK, Malaysia and Aus if we were local students there. For example, in UK 3 or 4As is a prerequisite for people to enter med school (unless you did exceptionally well that they offer you ABB but it's quite impossible in oxbridge). And in Aus, most locals below 98% couldnt get into med school either. And as for me, if I wasnt able to pay for my med school, I dont think i could join med school either.

Sorry about that. And congrats for getting into a local med school =D

This post has been edited by cygoh9: May 29 2009, 06:19 PM

batch from m206 for EOS3 : 6 failed their first attempt, 0 failed on resit, = ALL PASS.

ECG ----> get the made easy, you should be fine after that, during my time it was TIM SONG that taught us ECG and it was er... **** and we have to rely on ourselves, damn. Not sure about your batch.

GI is the hardest system for me in EOS3, i hate it more than the others lol thanks to parasitology inside.

Justin, why not you just tell me how bad imu is here? what course were u doing in imu before u transferred urself to ucsi?
when ppl are transfering out, many ppl are dying to enter imu anyway. It's true that it is bloodsucking, and it has to be, or else it wont be called a private university. IMU produces good student, the bad ones are kicked out during their first exam.

If u pass ur exam, at least u are a not bad student. Most imu ppl are liddat, lol. When u enter clinical years later, u'll learn much more, then everything will seem to make more sense. Usually ppl dont fail their clinical years.

btw, did any of u attend TDM's talk in IMU BJ? lol

IELTS wasnt compulsory during my time (M206). Most of my friends got accepted with MUET and no IELTS, and most of them are of pms stream.



This post has been edited by cygoh9: Aug 6 2009, 04:57 PM

Most of my friends are matched to pms without IELTS, in my batch it was "stupid to take IELTS", "waste money". I took mine coz i missed the MUET registration date. I think they changed it, i'm deadly sure that MUET was the requirement some time ago, not IELTS. I had to take MUET during sem 3, but apparently those who din take MUET are safe too, they're matched safely.

it's an easy choice. IMU pms

*nodd head 1000 times* agreed.
going to PMC IMO is a waste of money.

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Added on August 20, 2009, 10:27 amPMC = no. Unless u take amc examination, pass it, apply for a job, and they get u in.
IMU-AUS shouldnt be a prob if u start on feb 2010, and dont be too choosy i think lol

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Aug 20 2009, 10:27 AM

unfortunately i'm from nz and the results of 2nd matching for upcoming graduate batch (for international student) is out. I think there's 10-20 percent of them din get a job yet, have to wait for the 3rd round offer....

sad case, most ppl are discussing about oz, no one talks about nz! lol sigh

yea but many of them stays in nz as well, and there lotsa IMG from the UK are coming over to NZ, taking reg and house jobs..

er, i personally have not encountered any open racism yet but i can sense that the angmo consultant are more likely to talk to the angmo students than the asian students (especially IMU ppl who still dont get their european humor). hmm i'm not sure about aussie

oh yea about 30 percent of the my class are asians (non-angmo, probably 20 percent are chinese lol) not many ppl return to seremban as far as i know unless they failed twice lol

erm for the US (thats from hearsay) they dont really have a good medical protection society that safeguard doctors from screwing up, so there's heaps of lawsuits regarding negligence etc for surgical infection blablabla so one has to be really cautious to be a US doctor. No doubt US has the best technology in the world though.

i'm actually looking for a chance for internship in aus as well lol btw, there's 100 percent success rate as far as i know for auckland grad this year (intern 2010) for aussie application (not NSW or VIC) sigh fingers cross there'll be changes in internship placement in aussie. Hmm apparently some states rate NZ equivalent as interstate.

if aus is full, i guess the IMG from aus will have to come to nz then =P lol disastrous

yes u are right, traditionally nobody wants to go to nz to study, so ppl usually put them as 7/8 choice after aussie school. so generally ppl who got matched to nz generally dont have very good results ie the borderline students (of course there're exceptions especially in the last 2 years - when IMU need to balance up good students and bad students in uni, and some dean's list students got matched to their 5-8th unis, and IMU said it's the computer!), and otago has higher failing rate due to their exam system as well (4th year = no exam, 5th year = one exam determines every single thing, and imu students suck in consistency)

but the situation has changed in auckland this year after they reduced the number of seats, nz somehow became really popular, and at least 3 dean's list student are coming over next year.

ppl dont "return" to seremban due to racism, are u joking me lol? spent so much but cannot tahan racism is quite bullshit ler imo. There are so many local asians here (after melbourne, not sure about adelaide or brisbane). I've heard that in the UK the patients wont let u touch them if ur an asian, they prefer european, is that true and is that considered as racism? i think the "racism" they refer to is when an angmo consultant fail them in their runs in a situation if it's in msia they wouldnt have failed (due to not speaking up, yea, thats the true asian culture, we listened silently, and wont speak a word unless we really know the answer, unlike the western culture where ppl speak out louddddd).

btw the nz students are freaking smart, there's only 2 medical schools here with about 160 local intake per year per school. and yea, they're freaking smart and studious and enthusiastic, a deadly combo. Yes i mean the "locals", not the international students.

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Added on September 10, 2009, 12:48 pmabout knowledge gap wise, what i realise is that the local ppl are very creative and think out of the box, and imu students tend to follow the notes. Apparently 50 percent of them think that dissection is a waste of time lol coz they dont know what are they doing.

it's not easy to fail really once u enter medical school in phase II (except for OSCEs lol) unless the person really slacks like hell until final exam and yes it's possible to do that. UoA doesnt have an end of posting exam like in many places, so ppl can slacked off and still pass their whole year, but they would be filtered out if they din manage to pass the year end papers...

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Sep 10 2009, 12:48 PM

some PR ppl abandon their PR to get back to aussie.

if it was a fair play, some of us probably will be able to grab a seat in local govern med school, but yea, u know what happened. Hence alternative was seek. And loopholes always exist when there's an alternative....

all in all, u cant buy a cert from PMS, so if u are able to graduate, probably ur up to the standard, unlike certain other med schools.

I dont think we could take into account our upbringing/abilities to judge whether or not we're eligible for the developed med school, since it's a diff ball game all together (we were brought up differently, we perceive things differently than the europeans, equal rights for PR and citizens regardless of race in aussie, medicine are subsidized, allowance for the elderly, diff education). It's sooooo different.

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Sep 11 2009, 10:29 AM

100% agreed.
It's quite BS to one can be a doctor as long as he works hard enough. He needs sufficient analytical skills before he can get pass his med school. I wouldnt want a dumb person to be my doctor, seriously.

chika, welcome to nz lol, was nz ur first choice?

Why do you need to further your study after getting ur BPharm/MPharm? lol