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post Feb 23 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(Yaoni @ Feb 23 2014, 12:42 AM)
When we get accepted into YEAR 1 in IMU, do they show us the list of the PMS straight away and say that they will guarantee that these PMS won't go anywhere and will stay till YEAR 2.5 when we get to choose??

Or some of them will drop one by one and by the end of my 2.5 YEAR only (eg.)2 UK unis may be left???

How can we know when the contract of each uni will end? That way, I can see which uni might not be there by the time I'm in the 2.5th YEAR

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They can't guarantee which universities would remained since its up to the PMS to decide whether to withdraw or still allocate the place for IMU students.

I can say the unis would not drop one by one THAT soon in 2 and a half years until minuscule number of unis are left.

I can't comment on contract as i'm not sure about the existence of it. wink.gif

Btw, my university has withdrawn out as a PMS just recently last year. So, anything can happen in the near future. smile.gif
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post Feb 25 2014, 01:08 AM

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I'll say out that money should the least deciding factor when pursuing medicine overseas, especially in UK. The number of international applicants to places in each medical university is roughly about 20 to 1. The selection process itself is highly evaluated and the decision to select a particular individual has to be reviewed a couple of times before being made.

The typical evaluation includes personal statement, UKCAT (not all), grades and the interviews themselves. In my university, the interview has been recently changed to the newer MMI (multiple-mini interviews), which i found more suitable in deciding one's ability to do medicine. The individual himself is tested upon basic common sense, empathy, passion, arithmetics and communication skills. These are highly important in regarding to being a doctor later.

So, overall the selection is really demanding and I'm really glad to be able to get into one at all. smile.gif

Just my 2 cents. wink.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 04:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 25 2014, 08:43 PM)
I know of cases a typical successful applicant to UK medical schools,say in the last 2 years, only received ONE offer

from  among the Ucas choices of 4 Uni's.

Generally it fits in well with what cckkpr says, i.e "that it can be considered as  a game of chance" , as far as I am

concerned.

Would be glad to hear from you , if yours is another real life case of receiving ONE offer only ..... blush.gif
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Mine was a one offer case BUT it was mostly down to my bad selection of universities, I'm afraid.

I had two interviews, with one successful and the other, a rejection.
For one university, I wasn't able to attend the interview due to the fact that they had change their selection procedure from not interviewing to an MMI in UK itself. At the point when I was applied, the information at which I knew of did not state about the interview but it was recently implemented AFTER the UCAS closing date.

The final university rejected me the earliest, which was about early December. Furthermore, my fellow peers from the same college who applied to the same university were also rejected around the same time. I did not manage to find anyone who went to the university directly. I could only speculate that it was due to the IMU credit transfer which limited the number of places available for direct entry. (Just a guess~)

( I know I shouldn't be lamenting about it but it's not an excuse to deny that it was my incapability which denied me more than one offer. It could be due to chance though but I can only guess)
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post May 6 2014, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ May 6 2014, 01:08 AM)
Even excluding the newly introduced transfer fees of  about RM 4000 per  semester for PMS programs, without a

teaching hospital of its own , IMU is charging higher pre-clinical fees than majority of UK medicine schools who owns

one or more teaching hospitals.

Malaysia truly Asia, and

IMU truly BOLEH! cry.gif

CRONY lagi Boleh! rclxub.gif

Note: Transfer fees of ALL PMS during pre-clinical is RM 4000 per semester x 5 semesters = RM 20000. On top of this,

transfer to Liverpool will incur extra over charge of GBP 3750 per year*
* =per year of preclinical of 2.5  years or Liverpool clinical of 3 years ........ any clue???
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For the transfer to Liverpool, it's 3750 per clinical year for the 2014 intake and subsequently 10k per clinical year for the 2015 intake and so forth. smile.gif
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post May 6 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ May 6 2014, 08:44 PM)
The figure of GBP 158xx per year pre-clinical fees I quoted earlier is for Leicester September 2013 intake.

I wasn't aware Leicester pre-clinicals fees is the cheapest in UK in 2013. smile.gif

For September 2014 intake, it's GBP 16525.

http://www2.le.ac.uk/study/international/n...al-tuition-fees
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Hmm.. I wonder for the 158xx..is it constant for the 2013 intake per year till clinical years or there will be a constant rise in fees each year.
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post May 7 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ May 6 2014, 11:27 PM)
Hey Jckc , how are you preparing for the coming exam ? Not sure whether my friend is well prepared for it. blush.gif

My limited understanding is, for September 2013 Leicester intake, the GBP 15815 applies for both pre-clinicals

academic years i.e 2013/14 and 2014/15.

So, by September 2014, I expect fees payable would still maitain at GBP 15815.

Though clinicals fees for years commencing September 2013 is GBP 27710 and for years commencing September

2014 is GBP 30820, these fee amount would probably not apply to those of you commencing clinical years in

September 2015.

Correct me if I am wrong.tongue.gif
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Haha. Preparing quite well I guess with three more weeks of lectures to go. :/ your friend is doing just fine. smile.gif

Ah, I see. We are still unable to confirm how would the fee structure be like for the next year.
(Time to hit the reception sooner or later sweat.gif )
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post May 8 2014, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ May 8 2014, 12:32 AM)
Unlike Oz med schools generally charging through 5-year fixed fees,quite a substantial number of UK med schools

are still charging through  'traditional' differential fees sort of system, though it appears the trend is changing. cry.gif

IIRC Aberdeen med school changes from differential fee system to 5-year fixed fee system for years commencing

September 2013. sweat.gif
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According to the leicester fees for international students, the pre-clinical years fees are locked for the first two years.
However, for clinical years, the fees are not fixed since it was not given an asterisk as below.
Ah.. Clinical years would definitely reach 30k soon. :/

* Fees are fixed for each year of your degree programme, allowing you to plan your finances for the duration of your studies.

http://www2.le.ac.uk/study/international/n...al-tuition-fees

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post May 8 2014, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ May 8 2014, 02:33 PM)
Wow, 10% per year increase is real high and by the third year will be in excess of 41k pounds.

This Intercalated Degree, just curious to know why a lot of internationals do this degree. fy1 and fy2 is more less assured after graduation, assuming no unforeseen changes. Or it will make a difference to those who wanted to go for specialisation later on?
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To my knowledge, not many internationals would do an intercalating degree due to financial issue and longer time to graduate. Doing an intercalated degree would help add an addition two points for application in fy1 deanery as I could remember, which could or may not help depending on how competitive it is. Most do it for the sake of pursuing their interests in a particular field.
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post Aug 29 2015, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 29 2015, 12:13 AM)
Wow, IMU-PMS students transferring to Uni of Liverpool are paying £40k fees a year?
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Yeah. They are charging extra 10k a year for fees for Imu students. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 27 2015, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 27 2015, 06:14 PM)
yes....

it appears we are now training doctors for singapore....free....all paid by mapa scholarship....
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With the current issue regarding junior doctor contract in the uk, I wouldn't be surprised if more international students from the uk are flooding back to sg/Australia.
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post Sep 28 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Sep 28 2015, 08:05 AM)
So they've voted for strike action, if necessary?  Guess ball is in NHS's court now?
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The BMA has already voted for industrial actions so I guess necessary or not, it will come sooner or later.
I don't think the government and the NHS will back off though. We will just have to see how the future goes. :/
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post Sep 28 2015, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Sep 28 2015, 11:40 AM)
Your UK cert will not indicate it unless you are proud enough to tell them laugh.gif

As for the junior doctor proposed pay cut, doing your foundation years in Scotland will possibly avoid that.
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They say it's a conspiracy theory to promote more fys to go to Scotland and Wales hahaha.
(I've heard the fps there are not that good, especially when it comes to the academic foundation programmes.)
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post Sep 28 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kokhoong0624 @ Sep 28 2015, 12:59 PM)
I'm actually planning to work in Malaysia/Singapore only.. So I didn't really focus on the UK medical stuffs or working there...
I wanted to go Australia but my parents say UK...
Just need the cert to be recognized by SMC
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You need to be flexible in your options. smile.gif
Give yourself a chance to work outside your comfort zone and you may realized that you may even like it there.
All the best for your application and make sure you're doing it because you generally like it overall.
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post Sep 28 2015, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(indycolt @ Sep 28 2015, 05:32 PM)
Yep! Very odd decision by the SMC...in fact theirs is the strictest I've seen in terms of recognition of qualifications. I mean come on, TWO schools only for Malaysia? Two? Almost every other country seems to follow the IMED list.
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Lol, looking at the number of private medical schools in Malaysia, I am not surprised by the slightest.
Other countries have more tighter regulations towards building a new medical school but for Malaysia, it doesn't seem to happen. hmm.gif
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post Sep 29 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(wingy @ Sep 29 2015, 05:18 PM)
In fact we are lucky to have still public medical schools still recognised by the SMC. Do you know that UM medics who graduated after December 1989 are no longer recognised by the GMC UK ?

The private medical schools in Malaysia are money making businesses. Many might have thought that NUMED is part of Newcastle University UK - it is not.
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Yea, our universities are sadly no longer recognised by the gmc, hence the majority of Malaysians will try to aim to get to a uk medical school instead for recognition and speciality training.

I would have to agree and disagree with your statement there though. The Numed campus is indeed part of Newcastle university and students who graduated there are eligible for gmc registration and even for gmc recognised fy training in Malaysia as well just recently. However, the immigration law stands in the way of gaining entry to competitive cmt, cst, GP and etc training. With limited places even for their local graduates, what are the chances for graduates from Malaysia.
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post Sep 30 2015, 12:45 AM

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Just a gmc report about its visit to numed last year.
http://www.gmc-uk.org/NUMed_2013_14_report.pdf_60845154.pdf


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post Sep 30 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Sep 30 2015, 09:00 AM)
It is good if the graduates can secure training in UK. Then we will have more UK universities setting up base here. But if its only a few manage to get training, it wont make a big difference.

IMU pms is still the best bet.
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Yeah, it would stop the influx of international students into the uk for medical education if speciality training was offered.
Cross your fingers and hope the imu pms programme is able to last as long as possible.
As limeuu said about the vacancies due to the new junior doc contract, I wonder How many would still want to pursue their training there regarding removal of banding, increase in hours of work and etc.
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QUOTE(Wing:) @ Oct 1 2015, 06:33 PM)
omg I don't know where I can do the internship then
I guess there's no points worrying now
I hope international graduates can stay in the UK and work 6 years later
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International students graduating from the uk are allowed to stay in uk as long you get your speciality posting.
Since the resident labour market test doesn't not apply anymore, the chances are significantly higher compared to previous years.
However, the competition gets tougher each year with plenty of applicants with additional Degrees, publications, conference presentations and etc together with reapplicants.
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post Oct 1 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Wing:) @ Oct 1 2015, 07:15 PM)
Do you know is it easy for uk graduates to stay there for foundation years?
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Currently now about 300 graduates don't get a position but the NHS will try to sort them out somewhere.
But otherwise, if you're foundation year score isn't bad, you will definitely get a place somewhere for now.
90% of graduates get their top 5 places so it's not too bad.
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post Oct 2 2015, 12:21 AM

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http://www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/news...programme-2015-

But overall, the reserve places could be not permanent. You could have 6 months contract in a hospital up north and then another 6 months down south. its not ideal in terms of lifestyle.

So it's better off doing well and secure a good deanery with the jobs you want.

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