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post Apr 25 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Medico @ Apr 25 2011, 04:23 PM)
Hey guys, thanks for your prompt replies, it really clears up some of my doubts.

I'm sorry that I forgot to mention that I dont plan to work in UK, as for now my ideal plan is to settle in Australia after graduation.
-My main concern now is still about choosing between these 2 schools, ideally I would like to settle in Australia, but then at this time I feel that getting the best degree and training out of these 2 is more important than PR.
-Honestly I still cant see how different they are. I asked my lecturers and apparently specialty is not affected by this also. But what if I really would like to "dream big"-John Hopkins(IMU does have an alumnus who made it there from Jefferson) are my chances different with an Edinburgh or ANU degree?
-Or Specialty differs among countries? Say, US will be dependent on USMLE scores(from what I heard) while in UK(I'm not sure myself...)
-Job prospects in Australia should be better(at least easier) if I graduate from ANU as compared to Edinburgh I suppose?

So in UK, you're allowed 4 months to find a job and to get a tier 2 visa, but then to get a PR there is really hard?

Again I sincerely thank you guys for your feedback.
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You don't really have to worry about your prospects after graduation. Just do your best in medical school and you will be head hunted by hospitals. And if you're really good, they'll somehow find some way to circumvent the immigration obstacles so that you may settle in the country (UK or Aus) permanently. In terms of career advancement, I would say US is probably the best for overseas doctors simply because of the USMLE. Generally a score of >230 on Step 1 will get you into most residency programs but for competitive ones will require 250 and above.

If you're expecting a smooth ride after graduation, you can forget about it. It's the same case for any field - I don't see why it should be any different for doctors. Survival of the fittest smile.gif

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post Apr 25 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(tqeh @ Apr 25 2011, 04:48 PM)
Just bear in mind by the time you graduate there might be no more internship places left for you in Australia and you have to cry back to singapore.

And if you want to go to the US your best bet is Thomas Jefferson, otherwise they do not discriminate overseas degree, ie a degree from bangladesh is no different from a degree from cambridge, if their USMLE score and CV are comparable. BUT most training hospitals have SPECIFIC NUMBER OF PLACES for TJU so if you graduate from TJU you wont take the leftovers, you take the reserved places instead.

While studying in the UK guarantees you 2 years of work, and possibility of going to Australia as a 2nd year or 3rd year doctor.

And hey, really, unless your from oxbridge, all degrees are essentially the same. This is speaking from experience wise. And "getting the best degree", "graduating from Edinburgh owns those graduates from Liverpool big time" are not true, but most of us probably underwent the same phase of life, lol.


Added on April 25, 2011, 4:50 pm

Sorry mate hospital dont headhunt you eventhough you are the creme de la creme, you have to go through a centralised process and some top students may still ended up jobless in first round if they didnt put the selection wisely

No it's not easy to settle in UK permanently.
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Well, if a country doesn't want the best graduate produced from its system, it's their own loss. Plus, if you can afford the tuition fees in say, Australia, then taking an extra exam on your own (e.g. USMLE) shouldn't be a financial obstacle at all. If you truly are the creme de la creme, you'll find success in any field you enter - simple as that.
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post Apr 25 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Angela Lee @ Apr 25 2011, 05:19 PM)
Sadly too, examples of these cases are plenty. One of my friends just finished her MBBS in Sydney but didn't get an internship in an Australian hospital as they were all reserved for the locals. She had to apply to do her internship in America instead. Another friend of mine whose about 1 month through the Melbourne MD but he was refused to attend the any metropolitan hospital-based clinical attachments (which the locals are entitled to). But he was only given the rural attachments. International students are quite disadvantaged in Australia although these concerns have been raised by many committees but there's nothing that can be done.

Yes. Hospitals don't usually look for candidates unless if you have a very close relationship with the people in the hospital.
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I trust doctors and specialists will be able to spot a true talent when they see one, but that's besides the point.

Nobody actually forced any of your friends to study medicine in Australia, they did it out of their own free will. There's no point blaming the system - when has life been fair? Besides, they should have done some research on the market situation PRIOR to starting medical school in Australia (or for this matter IMU). While I agree that the treatment of international students in Australia has been somewhat unethical, you can't expect the Australian government to shake things up for non-citizens. They don't conform to your needs, it is and always has been the other way round.

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post Jun 1 2011, 11:37 PM

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Thought you guys might be interested to know that the Malaysian government is planning to sue JPA scholars staying overseas after their course, ESPECIALLY medical students...I think this is the first time the government has ever acknowledged the non-return of most JPA scholars. This after all the millions of dollars spent...what a great country

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4508&sec=nation

Any JPA-sponsored IMU-PMS students out there planning to flee after graduation, better think twice now...

 

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