It's quite sad actually. The prospect of transferring to Australian universities isn't that great because no international students is guaranteed any internship positions in Australia. Securing an internship in Australia would be even more difficult in the near future due to the shortage of Australian doctors. What this means is that even after many years of studying one may not be registered as a doctor in the country. Given that is that case, transferring to Australia is may not be a good idea. That's why many IMU students are going for universities in UK which has a fairly strong competition.

In answering your question, from my standpoint, undergraduate entry is better as it offers you more options to transfer to UK universities; given there are a few options in the graduate pathway, you would not have as many choices. However, if you have already decided to transfer to an Australian university, then your chance is about 2/3 which is probably higher than the undergraduate entry. But you still have 1/3 chance of transferring to Warwick.

In answering your second question, I believe UQ is taking a lot of students. Their quota of international students has increased to about 200 in 2011, taking about 500 students each intake. This number is unbelievable.

My friend is currently in UQ. If you need more information I can help you ask my friend.

Good luck for your career choices,

Angela

Why? And what do you mean by that?

Hi Medico,

Registration as a doctor?
Unfortunately, acquiring a MBBS degree is a completely different story from obtaining an internship position. It is not uncommon that MBBS international students do not get an internship position in Australia. But this is not IMU's fault but many people don't quite seem to understand that.

Many international students (including non IMU students) who received their MBBS in Australia have to return to their home country without being able to register as a doctor. They often need to find internship positions elsewhere outside Australia. This is very common. This is something you will need to prepare for early beforehand, not at the end of the MBBS. I can see that Australia is advantageous in terms of living and tuition costs but given that the currency is high currently, it makes minute difference in cutting costs.

Which university to choose?
Being in the graduate pathway is not a poor option at all. I think that you don't need to be affected when people tell you something like "If you're really that capable, why don't you go to Edinburgh". I hear this all the time and you will hear this kind of competitive voices even more later. But at the end of your medical training, your internship training is more important and what you are specialising in is much more important because these are the matters that shape your medical career. I hope you will find what you really want

Sadly too, examples of these cases are plenty. One of my friends just finished her MBBS in Sydney but didn't get an internship in an Australian hospital as they were all reserved for the locals. She had to apply to do her internship in America instead. Another friend of mine whose about 1 month through the Melbourne MD but he was refused to attend the any metropolitan hospital-based clinical attachments (which the locals are entitled to). But he was only given the rural attachments. International students are quite disadvantaged in Australia although these concerns have been raised by many committees but there's nothing that can be done.

Yes. Hospitals don't usually look for candidates unless if you have a very close relationship with the people in the hospital.

Absolutely. Most students would know these situations but their zeal for medicine wouldn't stop them. But I believe that things will improve as these concerns attract public and media attention that is probably pushing it forward progressively

The best may be to ask admission but I think a score above 90 AUS TER is well sufficient. I've heard a few years back then the cut off for the February Intake is lower, but given the competition for medical schools, the difference is minute. If wanting to get in, may need to try every intake every year. More and more people wanted to study medicine for some reasons

These days entry requirements to medicine are increasing - 90s were fine back then but probably not today.

What about people who have completed a tertiary (e.g., bachelor) degree in an English University (e.g., Bachelor of Engineering at Sydney University), do they still need to do an IELTS test for entry into IMU Medicine/Dentistry? Would it still be necessary?

Really? Thanks for the information.
Is it possible to provide the source of the info?
That would be much appreciated.

Are you doing it?

no worries i trust you~

an interesting request

So it sounds like you have already checked with IMU about this and they have allowed this trading.
However, even though there is someone who is willing to swap, there should be a waiting list.
It is not a matter of money or reimbursement, because this is not up to the student but the university.

what limeuu referred to was the second round offer and third round offer. It is a common practice for most universities, particularly in competitive programs. heyhey, so do you know what many applicants are ahead of you?

well. that was what my friend had experienced.

while it may be true that students who fail will not receive a place in the partnership program, where will these students end up in? Their local program? It sounds like a strategy to earn more profit this way by IMU.

Yeyechan's points are quite true. Most students are going for the most prestigious med schools, if they are able to get in. In fact, these people have been aiming for the best of the best, like Harvard. I hear people talking about "who cares about prestige" but they are really the ones who can't imagine themselves being in these schools (due to a lack of competitiveness, financial or other reasons). To be honest, who on earth doesn't want to get into the best school? To meet talented students, To work with better facilities, more famous lecturers, and the list goes on..
It is a dream for everyone. About prestige, is it that important? The occupation of medicine itself is associated with many prestigious elements. I often hear "fathers" talking about their sons graduating from Edinburgh med school, Harvard med school, etc, "my son is studying medicine in UK, etc". Prestige has been important in Asian families and still is. If you are really good, you are being treated differently, and people see you differently.

About choosing AUS/UK med school, being a doctor in these countries is a pain in the butt. Many of my aussie friends (by many, I mean more than a dozen), after completing their MBBS, were told to leave the country without getting an internship. These friends I knew, worked extremely hard, ended up like this. People have been telling me, "hey, you can't blame Australia, because you already know the rules of the game before coming in this country to study". They are indeed correct, that, many AUS schools actually solemnly declared "international students are not guaranteed an internship in Australia, and places will be reserved for the locals." Well, this is medicine. Its insane :-P