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post Nov 1 2009, 01:40 AM

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The TER cut-off for Feb 2010 intake is 95.
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QUOTE(Visualize @ Nov 1 2009, 01:40 AM)
The TER cut-off for Feb 2010 intake is 95.
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it fluctuates a bit.......

how did the repeat sam go this time?.....
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post Nov 1 2009, 10:43 AM

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Well, finals starts on Monday. smile.gif According to trials and forecast, it'll most probably be >99, based on various comments and recent statistics.

Btw, what determines the cut-off for every year? Quality of the pool of applicants?
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QUOTE(Visualize @ Nov 1 2009, 10:43 AM)
Well, finals starts on Monday. smile.gif  According to trials and forecast, it'll most probably be >99, based on various comments and recent statistics.

Btw, what determines the cut-off for every year? Quality of the pool of applicants?
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that is excellent......good luck....

yes.......applicants are pooled, ranked, and then cut off applied based on seats available.........a good batch, and the cut off would be 95 (eg m107) or 91 (me/dt108)..........they have a system of equitation with the different pre-u's people apply with.........
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post Nov 1 2009, 03:27 PM

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Hi there,

I'm interested in doing dentistry in IMU. Whats the annual fees for dentistry? I can't seem to load the webpage.

Is it credible and recognized in Hongkong?

Thx!
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post Nov 1 2009, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 1 2009, 03:27 PM)
Hi there,

I'm interested in doing dentistry in IMU. Whats the annual fees for dentistry? I can't seem to load the webpage.

Is it credible and recognized in Hongkong?

Thx!
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full IMU dentistry dont know if its accredited. but very likely if you do PMS program your degree will be recognized in HK . Worst case scenario would be you have to sit for an exam to grant you the license to practice there.
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 1 2009, 03:27 PM)
Hi there,

I'm interested in doing dentistry in IMU. Whats the annual fees for dentistry? I can't seem to load the webpage.

Is it credible and recognized in Hongkong?

Thx!
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just curious but why hong kong?
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post Nov 1 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Nov 1 2009, 08:51 PM)
full IMU dentistry dont know if its accredited. but very likely if you do PMS program your degree will be recognized in HK . Worst case scenario would be you have to sit for an exam to grant you the license to practice there.
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Oh is PMS the transfer program or something like that? Only few unis are involved like AdelaideU, SydneyU etc. How do I join the program?

Really? That means if I do a ciplak one in Indonesia I'll still be able to practise anywhere in the world so long I take the test?

QUOTE(chika138 @ Nov 1 2009, 10:28 PM)
just curious but why hong kong?
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I'll most prolly migrate there in future.
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post Nov 1 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 1 2009, 11:44 PM)
Oh is PMS the transfer program or something like  that? Only few unis are involved like AdelaideU, SydneyU etc. How do I join the program?

Really? That means if I do a ciplak one in Indonesia I'll still be able to practise anywhere in the world so long I take the test?
I'll most prolly migrate there in future.
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when you apply for imu just check the box for PMS route. and later on there will be a matching program to which they'll match you to the respective universities.

no thats not the case really, correct me if im wrong but are you willing to take the risk to join an indonesia university? what if you dont pass the hk exam and you'll have to work in malaysia (worst case scenario being your degree wont be recognized in Malaysia) . you'll be stuck with a degree that takes you no where.

and with all the reports of surplus of doctors, i think the next hot profession might be dentistry!!

owh lucky you!! you have family there already? or your family is planning to uproot and settle down in HK?
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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Nov 1 2009, 11:52 PM)
when you apply for imu just check the box for PMS route. and later on there will be a matching program to which they'll match you to the respective universities.

no thats not the case really, correct me if im wrong but are you willing to take the risk to join an indonesia university? what if you dont pass the hk exam and you'll have to work in malaysia (worst case scenario being your degree wont be recognized in Malaysia) . you'll be stuck with a degree that takes you no where.

and with all the reports of surplus of doctors, i think the next hot profession might be dentistry!!

owh lucky you!! you have family there already? or your family is planning to uproot and settle down in HK?
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Oh I see. Wow that means I have to pay for academic fees according to , say, Australian rates???

Haha it already is!! My dentist uncle earns up to RM100k monthly wet-wet-water. A dental surgeon( MUST DO IMPLANTATION!!) is like a cash-machine in Bank Negara.

Mom's family is there. Cost of living too high leh..if i can't secure a well-paying job I doubt I'll go there




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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Oct 31 2009, 03:15 PM)
thanks smile.gif yeah i realized i changed my meq answers last minute too some times. hope the meq's wont be too vague whereby ill confuse it with some other disease. they said meq all from PBL with some minor modifications right?

thought BS and CM was free marks if read through, maybe not the case in sem 3 right?
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i didn't notice if all the meqs are from PBLs. and i can't remember any of the meq qws i got last time :/ (i got one on crohn's disease)
as for the bs and cm qws... i honestly just tembak most of them. yes, some are just common sense, but some are really specific and weird (i think i had one oba where they asked which emotion would a patient feel after he/she had a heart attack. or some weird crap like that. and the answers were really close to each other (anxiety, anger, sadness, can't remember the other options)).
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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Nov 2 2009, 01:47 AM)
i didn't notice if all the meqs are from PBLs. and i can't remember any of the meq qws i got last time :/ (i got one on crohn's disease)
as for the bs and cm qws... i honestly just tembak most of them. yes, some are just common sense, but some are really specific and weird (i think i had one oba where they asked which emotion would a patient feel after he/she had a heart attack. or some weird crap like that. and the answers were really close to each other (anxiety, anger, sadness, can't remember the other options)).
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You can best describe the emotion after a heart attack as a 'sense of impending doom'. (also used for pulsatile release of cathecholamines...but thats another story) Ie. The patient will feel very very very scared that they are about to die. This is a very important point in history taking.
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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Nov 2 2009, 01:47 AM)
i didn't notice if all the meqs are from PBLs. and i can't remember any of the meq qws i got last time :/ (i got one on crohn's disease)
as for the bs and cm qws... i honestly just tembak most of them. yes, some are just common sense, but some are really specific and weird (i think i had one oba where they asked which emotion would a patient feel after he/she had a heart attack. or some weird crap like that. and the answers were really close to each other (anxiety, anger, sadness, can't remember the other options)).
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i guess depression cause its a near death experience. but most of the BS lectures have the same 3: Anger, Denial , Depression when it comes to any disease!

yeah apparently its right out of PBL or very easy to identify disease. how did your Crohn's Disease question go like? present with transmural inflam? skip lesions ? something like that? or more vague and not so direct like presenting like appendicitis upon further investigation then one or two of the essential CF comes up?

damn MEQ is gonna be scary, especially GIT!! rclxub.gif


uh C-note, i was reffering to " hot profession" as in a profession everyone flocks to like in the dot com boom, was anything IT related, now we have a surplus. now its Medicine, cause RECESSION PROOF, GOOD MONEY, HONORABLE JOB, and those nice words and things a typical asian parent would say. because of that, any tom d*** and harry is becoming a doctor doh.gif

i figure once most people realize that the statistics dont lie and very like malaysia will face a surplus of doctors, they'll turn to the NEXT BEST THING! dentistry.

when you twin off you'll be paying their fees, for the first two and half years standard 125K++ . Have to remember dentistry is more expensive than medicine, and the first few years you'll be doing more studying than your batchmates! haha you kinda do the same exam your medicine counter part does, and added dental examination papers to take. hence two times the effort!! but thats just the start, late on you'll be having more fun as you break away into your own proper curriculum!


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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Nov 2 2009, 01:47 AM)
i didn't notice if all the meqs are from PBLs. and i can't remember any of the meq qws i got last time :/ (i got one on crohn's disease)
as for the bs and cm qws... i honestly just tembak most of them. yes, some are just common sense, but some are really specific and weird (i think i had one oba where they asked which emotion would a patient feel after he/she had a heart attack. or some weird crap like that. and the answers were really close to each other (anxiety, anger, sadness, can't remember the other options)).
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i guess depression cause its a near death experience. but most of the BS lectures have the same 3: Anger, Denial , Depression when it comes to any disease!

yeah apparently its right out of PBL or very easy to identify disease. how did your Crohn's Disease question go like? present with transmural inflam? skip lesions ? something like that? or more vague and not so direct like presenting like appendicitis upon further investigation then one or two of the essential CF comes up?

damn MEQ is gonna be scary, especially GIT!! rclxub.gif


uh C-note, i was reffering to " hot profession" as in a profession everyone flocks to like in the dot com boom, was anything IT related, now we have a surplus. now its Medicine, cause RECESSION PROOF, GOOD MONEY, HONORABLE JOB, and those nice words and things a typical asian parent would say. because of that, any tom d*** and harry is becoming a doctor doh.gif

i figure once most people realize that the statistics dont lie and very like malaysia will face a surplus of doctors, they'll turn to the NEXT BEST THING! dentistry.

when you twin off you'll be paying their fees, for the first two and half years standard 125K++ . Have to remember dentistry is more expensive than medicine, and the first few years you'll be doing more studying than your batchmates! haha you kinda do the same exam your medicine counter part does, and added dental examination papers to take. hence two times the effort!! but thats just the start, late on you'll be having more fun as you break away into your own proper curriculum!



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me from ur batch too M208. Howdy!

heard that our batch did pretty badly for our summative 1, 40 over ppl failed if wat i heard is true. Majority around C/C+ and those that are usually A- or B+ students scored B- average. I scored a C : / I know my MEQ was horrendous, i don't even know if i've gotten any of it right, with that many choices and constantly changing my answers, prob got a nil tongue.gif i think ospe helped tho. OBA no comment tongue.gif

apparently our cmg summative supposed to be way easier (according to the trend). not too sure bout that :/ anyhow, fyi, prof ian brown said he'll be setting the patho questions, so thank God his notes are short n brief (i hope it doesnt turn ard n bite us!)

only thing left to do is telan those notes! argh!

All the best to u wink.gif and me.
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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:33 AM)
i guess depression cause its a near death experience. but most of the BS lectures have the same 3: Anger, Denial , Depression when it comes to any disease!

yeah apparently its right out of PBL or very easy to identify disease. how did your Crohn's Disease question go like? present with transmural inflam? skip lesions ? something like that? or more vague and not so direct like presenting like appendicitis upon further investigation then one or two of the essential CF comes up?

damn MEQ is gonna be scary, especially GIT!!  rclxub.gif
uh C-note, i was reffering to " hot profession" as in a profession everyone flocks to like in the dot com boom, was anything IT related, now we have a surplus. now its Medicine, cause RECESSION PROOF, GOOD MONEY, HONORABLE JOB, and those nice words and things a typical asian parent would say. because of that, any tom d*** and harry is becoming a doctor  doh.gif

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i can't remember the answer for the bs one. i tend to forget all about the exam once it's over biggrin.gif
but people were arguing over the answer hence i only could remember that particular one

The crohns one went something this (it's not word for word and i might be missing out on a few other information; but just to give you a clue..):
a middle aged lady coming to the clinic complaining of blood found in the stool. then the doctor performed a rectal endoscopy.
then they asked what other investigations you would do, i think give 3 differential diagnosis, and what were the indications for a rectal endoscope.
part 2/3: endoscope revealed ulcerations with skip lesions (yeah... it's pretty straight forward that it must be crohns). then they asked differences between UC and crohns. + some other qws.

i think i might have mix up the part 1,2 and 3. tongue.gif

i would say our meqs during eos were similar to the ones we had during summatives.
oh yeah.. we had a whole emq on asthma medication. matching their action to the drug name

coolguess>> a lot of people also performed badly for their summative 1 (cvs/respi) in my batch. but the grades improved a lot for summative 2 (haemato/git). so i think you're right about the upward trend for the 2nd summatives.

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yes mr registered, i have to agree with u.

IMU is a bloody blood sucker. why dont u ppl boycott it? go india/russia, better n cheaper. it costs so damn much for a goddamn MBBS and there's only 2 hrs of lecture per day, taught by bangla lecturers. @#$%%^


350k for MBBS, increase every year, 400k for dentistry, now i think 410-420k, few years later 500k, when it's our time to send our children there it'll be close to a million.

those ppl paid so damn much, but look at the facilities. like shit. it's not worth it. better go mahsa or aimst.

but what to do there are many rich kids who wanna study med/dent... they dont care about their money being sucked cos they have abundance.
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QUOTE(finaltrooper @ Nov 5 2009, 01:25 AM)
IMU is a bloody blood sucker. why dont u ppl boycott it? go india/russia, better n cheaper. it costs so damn much for a goddamn MBBS and there's only 2 hrs of lecture per day, taught by bangla lecturers. @#$%%^
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what? are you studying there now? 2 hours perday lecture?

any IMU med students care to clarify?
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what? are you studying there now? 2 hours perday lecture?

any IMU med students care to clarify?
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i'm surprised you didn't know about this. yes, IMU students typically only has 2 hrs of lecture/ day. but that's not including the 2x weekly PBL sessions, the clinical sessions we have every week, or once every 2 weeks depending on the system we're studying, and the occasional pathology, histology labs.

QUOTE(finaltrooper @ Nov 5 2009, 01:25 AM)
yes mr registered, i have to agree with u.

IMU is a bloody blood sucker. why dont u ppl boycott it? go india/russia, better n cheaper. it costs so damn much for a goddamn MBBS and there's only 2 hrs of lecture per day, taught by bangla lecturers. @#$%%^
350k for MBBS, increase every year, 400k for dentistry, now i think 410-420k, few years later 500k, when it's our time to send our children there it'll be close to a million.

those ppl paid so damn much, but look at the facilities. like shit. it's not worth it. better go mahsa or aimst.

but what to do there are many rich kids who wanna study med/dent... they dont care about their money being sucked cos they have abundance.
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i agree that 2 hrs of lecture/day is not what i expected when i came into IMU also. a lot of us in sem 1 were complaining that everything in IMU was about self studying and we are basically paying for the cert we are getting.
in the end, we just suck it up and studied cause complain all you want... 2 lectures/day is what has been done for so many other batches. as for the facilities, every batch has been complaining. and IMU is improving... but at a snail's pace. before the renovation... did you know that the library was much smaller and there's weren't as many computer labs.
if you really want to boycott, you can go ahead and tell every potential medical student friend what they are paying for... but i doubt it'll make any difference.
All the rich kids that don't care about anything actually made their choice either because:
1) imu is the only med uni in m'sia where you can end up graduating with a foreign degree. (apart from monash, which btw is more expensive than IMU). this is for those who want to work overseas.
2) for those ppl doing IMU-seremban, is mostly because the campus is located within the klang valley and seremban is quite close to KL, where they are from. And the entire course's fees is still cheaper than monash and manipal. no idea about aimst or mahsa's fees.

u would think that we are learning less than other medical students... but actually we are learning just as much. except they condense our learning material into 1 hr of lectures.
and btw, dentistry students don't have 2 hrs/day. they are essentially in the uni from 9-5 because of their packed schedule.
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I have no idea how people cope with 8 hours worth of lectures everyday. I have 6 lectures A WEEK and I'm already killing myself studying for the exam. My notes (already condensed) are as thick as a textbook. And thats for 1 subject! (We have 2)

Those are just lecture materials, not including tute and prac stuff rclxub.gif

But of course, I have been very dedicated in re-listening to the recorded lecture and looking up textbooks/internet to compile those notes. + the colourful layout makes it interesting to read. I'm proud of my notes wub.gif

CyberSetan, how many hours or lectures do you have during your pre-clinicals?

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hey does anybody know, for PMS students who want to twin to Thomas Jefferson MC, how do we go about taking the USMLE?

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