you show a lack of knowledge on matters medical, especially uk matters....which does not auger well for someone contemplating spending rm1mil studying in uk.....

Imu to Canada and us not recognized.... Um and ukm outsources programmes to rpmc and the defunct aucms not recognized....

If you know the quality of students admitted to most msian med schools, you will not be surprised...

What other countries?....non of the msian degrees are recognised out of Msia....except um ukm by spore, Monash msia by oz, numed by GMC, and the Irish programmes by Ireland.... The later 2 offer almost no chance of work in the parent countries....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Sep 29 2015, 10:25 PM

smc never recognised msian degrees, until 2007....however they have accepted for registration, um graduates for a long time, on a case by case basis....hence there are many um graduates working in spore...

for that matter, until 2003, they only recognised 2 degrees from australia...sydney and melbourne....and they still do not recognise any of the new ones like jcu, uws, griffith, deakin, wollonggong etc...

numed, being a first, did put gme in a quandary as to how to deal with their graduates....this now appears sorted out....the degree will be recognised by gme...the housemanship performed in selected hospitals in msia will be recognised as equivalent as f1 of uk...so a numed graduate completing housemanship in one of the approved hospitals can apply to get full registration with gme...

that says nothing about ability to work in the uk after...again theoretically, one can apply to enter cst/st...and if offered a job, will be eligible for a tier2 visa...

that remains to be tested...if it is possible....as it is, amongst uk local doctors, it is very competitive...but with the new nhs junior doctors' contract, large scale migration out may mean more vacancies....

spore is a narrow window at the moment....they still need 150 or so new doctors over what nus/duke can produce...

ntu will graduate their first batch in 2019, but it's small numbers...nevertheless that will reduce the number of overseas grads they will take....

it doesn't matter....msian med school just need to have the minimum MMC qualification and show you have enough money.....they will give you a place....

even imu is having problems filling the pms places nowadays...

as late as july, people were still applying and offered places for august intake....this is very unusual, as the pms stream is usually very popular and many applicants have to defer intake to the next batch, as places becomes full...

you have the grades for oz, but not for ucas?...that doesn't make sense...it is much more difficult to get into oz undergraduate entry medicine than to get into uk....

No UK med school looks at gcse for med school entry...what are you talking about?....and there is NO minimum for med school, nor 'maximum'....you can get 3a* and not get a place if you don't get past the ukcat/bmat and interview....

And you did a levels in UK?....something doesn't tally here....

If you are referring to the last Aug f1, it should all be sorted out by now...matching for 2016 have not started....

There is an overhang of excess graduates for the last 4 years....and 300 to 500 will not get a placement first round....but everybody who applied for fy got jobs eventually....

Note that unlike Australia, there is NO prioritisation for Brits....those who don't get jobs first round are those with low scores from their med school results and sjt test....be they Brits or Europeans or foreigners....

All international students who wish to stay back for fy have got their jobs so far....they use the same student visa, tier 4.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 1 2015, 11:10 PM

they are all permanent and substantive positions...all fy programmes will be for the 2 years with rotations fixed....a few fixed for f1, with f2 fixed later...

there are no more 6 months jobs like the past....the actual rotation is 4 months, so fy doctors rotate through a total of 6 postings in the 2 years...

i don't know of any case like this....there were enough jobs at the end, as people offered jobs fail exams, migrate away, take time off etc....many msian jpa/mara scholars applied too, knowing well they cannot stay and have to go back to msia...

in fact, someone got a f1 job where the unit's 3rd f1 position was never filled, they could not find a full time f1 and had to use locums....and that was not in a small dgh....but in a major scottish teaching hospital...

within a position, many f1 will have one or even two rotation out of the main hospital(s), and that means spending 4 months in another town....that is not "trying to fit in graduates", but part of the rotation....and the fy doctors know exactly what posting they will rotate through when they get their offer and precise rotation....and can plan for a 4 months temporary relocation in advance...all expenses are paid, and usually free accommodation will be provided....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 2 2015, 07:22 PM

Even the pms programme is having recruitment problems... So I think the cut off is likely to be lowered from the current 3a...nominal cut off is only 3b....probably the lowest back door entry into 1st world med schools...

Most important criteria....enough money.... At current rate, get ready a full 1mil myr if matched to UK....

They interview throughout the year...they interview anyone projected over the MMC mandated minimum of BBB, and will give provision offers based on their current cut off, which was AAA....

Falling interests is purely economics....in myr terms, it's 10 to 30% more expensive within this year...and jpa have stopped sponsoring for the pms programme....

The main reason for opting for the pms programme is inability to get direct entry.. .there is minimal savings going through IMU...I don't know of any student who rejects offer of direct entry into a UK or oz med school and choose IMU.... Most entering didn't apply for, or failed to get offer for direct entry...

Correction...I do know one student who rejected a direct entry offer to go to IMU pms, for personal reasons....and eventually drop down to the imu local programme....extraneous family problems....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 14 2015, 12:50 PM

Significant cost savings only if out of London, and in med school with lower pre clinical fees....there are still a few around....

Not jpa....Mara is however still sponsoring...

As a policy change, this formerly called bursary scholarship is now open not just to post spm bursary scholars, but all eligible students...to study both locally and overseas...

However, for health related courses, it is for local unis only... And in IMU means the local programme...

There however will be jpa scholars in the pms programme currently from awards given before the policy change...

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 14 2015, 03:41 PM

i would have avoided london completely...not worth the extra cost...stay nearby like the midlands like jckc and you can be in london within 2 hrs whenever you want....

If they enter this year in August, they will be those who were given bursary scholarship from spm 2012...under the old rules...

The fact remains that from about 30% in the past to 'small amount', it is a drop, and IMU is having difficulty finding suitable students with money to replace the shortfall....that 'small amount' will become zero from 2017....