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limeuu
post May 2 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Y_vonne @ May 2 2014, 12:35 AM)
Hey anyone heard that IMU don't arrange housemanship for pharmacy students? But students have to apply on their own?? Someone told me that. :/ hmm.
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it is NOT the responsibility of unis to arrange for jobs, or any mandatory internships, after graduation....it's the same whether for pharmacy, medicine or dentistry....
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post May 2 2014, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Y_vonne @ May 2 2014, 09:25 PM)
R u imu bpharm student? smile.gif
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post May 3 2014, 05:40 PM

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Hey, i heard they say IMU pharm syallabus is wider and study more things? Quite tough compare to other unis . Is it true? Kinda afraid when i hear this. sad.gif
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post May 4 2014, 02:51 PM

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Hello, sorry but where did the notion of PMS from the UK quitting IMU come from again? Please explain! shocking.gif cry.gif
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post May 5 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Yaoni @ May 4 2014, 02:51 PM)
Hello, sorry but where did the notion of PMS from the UK quitting IMU come from again? Please explain!  shocking.gif  cry.gif
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Riding on this question, would total withdrawal of all the UK unis be foreseeable within the next 5 years?
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post May 5 2014, 08:54 AM

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i think the question has been answered at pagalavan's blog, yaoni is haya there....

they will keep their promise, if you enter now, you will have the same list of pms to match to....

but this arrangement will not last forever, it will end at some stage....already, nz and half of oz and canadian med schools have withdrawn from the arrangement....it will not affect people entering the programme now....but will affect future cohorts.....

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post May 5 2014, 03:56 PM

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Guys, what happens if I wish to withdraw from the IMU-PMS course before enrollment? Will I get full/partial refund of tuition fees?

I applied to Feb 2015 intake and now waiting for interview. After getting an offer I know i will be required to pay first sem tuition fees.

I am also applying to UK med schools directly this September via their UCAS. Assuming I do get an offer from UK directly, I would most likely be choosing that route instead and have to withdraw from the offer I accepted in IMU.

Please advise. Thanks
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QUOTE(mmsbr @ May 5 2014, 03:56 PM)
Guys, what happens if I wish to withdraw from the IMU-PMS course before enrollment? Will I get full/partial refund of tuition fees?

I applied to Feb 2015 intake and now waiting for interview. After getting an offer I know i will be required to pay first sem tuition fees.

I am also applying to UK med schools directly this September via their UCAS. Assuming I do get an offer from UK directly, I would most likely be choosing that route instead and have to withdraw from the offer I accepted in IMU.

Please advise.  Thanks
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IMU can provide refund depending on your reason of withdrawal. If you are withdrawing without a valid reason (not within your control), it is unlikely they will refund

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post May 5 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(havefaith @ May 5 2014, 04:12 PM)
IMU can provide refund depending on your reason of withdrawal. If you are withdrawing without a valid reason (not within your control), it is unlikely they will refund
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Ok, so if my reason is as stated in the previous post, would refunds be given?

I have looked at the policies in IMU website but cannot find an answer specific to my question.
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post May 5 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(mmsbr @ May 5 2014, 03:56 PM)
Guys, what happens if I wish to withdraw from the IMU-PMS course before enrollment? Will I get full/partial refund of tuition fees?

I applied to Feb 2015 intake and now waiting for interview. After getting an offer I know i will be required to pay first sem tuition fees.

I am also applying to UK med schools directly this September via their UCAS. Assuming I do get an offer from UK directly, I would most likely be choosing that route instead and have to withdraw from the offer I accepted in IMU.

Please advise.  Thanks
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Unlikely to get your refund. They want your money. Basically, it will be forfeited.

If every potential medical student do like you, imagine the mess created.
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QUOTE(mmsbr @ May 5 2014, 04:31 PM)
Ok, so if my reason is as stated in the previous post, would refunds be given?

I have looked at the policies in IMU website but cannot find an answer specific to my question.
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no refund....
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post May 5 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(mmsbr @ May 5 2014, 03:56 PM)

I am also applying to UK med schools directly this September via their UCAS. Assuming I do get an offer from UK directly, I would most likely be choosing that route instead and have to withdraw from the offer I accepted in IMU.
i presume you mean applying for sept 2015 entry....

because if you mean sept 2014 entry, it is too late.....

also if you did apply in time for sept 2014 entry (ie from last year) and have not got any conditional offer by now, you can safely assume you have failed.....
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post May 5 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2014, 05:20 PM)
i presume you mean applying for sept 2015 entry....

because if you mean sept 2014 entry, it is too late.....

also if you did apply in time for sept 2014 entry (ie from last year) and have not got any conditional offer by now, you can safely assume you have failed.....
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Yes indeed I meant Sept 2015 entry but applying in Sept 2014.

I made the mistake of applying to the UK unis in the upper ranking bracket last year.. Hence failed to gain admission. But I will be applying to the less competitive UK unis this year.

What attracts me to imu is the cheaper costs of living and close proximity to my country during the first two years. These are things I would not get to enjoy by going to UK directly.

But at the same time, going UK directly has its own merits such as dissections, quality (?), etc.

Confused much. 😕
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post May 5 2014, 07:48 PM

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Yes indeed I meant Sept 2015 entry but applying in Sept 2014.

I made the mistake of applying to the UK unis in the upper ranking bracket last year.. Hence failed to gain admission. But I will be applying to the less competitive UK unis this year.

What attracts me to imu is the cheaper costs of living and close proximity to my country during the first two years. These are things I would not get to enjoy by going to UK directly.

But at the same time, going UK directly has its own merits such as dissections, quality (?), etc.

Confused much. 😕
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if i guess correctly, you are singaporean....

if you have no great need to decide where you go to in uk now, just accept imu-pms offer....you will not know where you end up in, but the chance of getting uk is very high.....

do note however, that some new uk med schools are not recognised in spore....so during matching, you need to rank the uk unis properly, to avoid getting into an unrecognised one....

the 'quality' will not differ much, and after 3 years in a uk clinical school, you will be like as if you went from year 1.....no difference...
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2014, 07:48 PM)
if i guess correctly, you are singaporean....

if you have no great need to decide where you go to in uk now, just accept imu-pms offer....you will not know where you end up in, but the chance of getting uk is very high.....

do note however, that some new uk med schools are not recognised in spore....so during matching, you need to rank the uk unis properly, to avoid getting into an unrecognised one....

the 'quality' will not differ much, and after 3 years in a uk clinical school, you will be like as if you went from year 1.....no difference...
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haha, spot on.

I am not picky in my choice of medical school. My only 2 criteria are accreditation and costs. Tuition fees of Med schools like UCD in Ireland can reach upwards of SGD 500k or above RM1.2mill. Scary figures.

Why do you say 'chance of getting uk is very high'? Is that based on the sheer number of UK PMS compared to Auzzie PMS? What other factors play a part in the allocation of PMS?

Yep, i understand that unis like Keele and BSMS are not recognised by the SMC according to the SMC second schedule.

How difficult is it to adapt to UK teaching styles after 2.5 years in bukit jalil?

Btw, IMU uses prosections instead of dissections?

Also, is it an urban legend or a truth that August intakes have higher cut-off ? And how much higher? Would AAB be enough?

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Unfortunately, while the grading for Spore a levels is tougher than the uk/cie a levels, and there is no a*, there is no way for grade compensation....so your aab will be seen as equivalent to a levels aab....(even if it could have been a*a*a equivalent)....that would be enough for entry in recent past, but may not be enough now....

obviously it is easier to get into uk because they make up most of the places available....oz used to be very popular, but i understand it is now not so, partly because of the cost, and partly the current problem with inadequate intern places.....

there are no cadavers in imu.....there is no problem with imu phase 1 students fitting into clinicals in pms med schools in the past...although there has been recent complains of deteriorating standards of some students....

august intake attracts lots of a level students, and with grade inflation, there are thousands literally with aaa....hence more competitive....it is more difficult to get atar95, hence less students qualifying in the feb intake....

all ipts med schools unfortunately do not have a centralised system of application, which would have allowed them to select the BEST students....applications come trickling in all year long, and they select on a first come first offered basis, as long as you satisfy the basic criteria (currently 95/aaa)....so a better student may be rejected as places are filled, unless he doesn't mind waiting for the next intake.....
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post May 6 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2014, 10:48 PM)
Unfortunately, while the grading for Spore a levels is tougher than the uk/cie a levels, and there is no a*, there is no way for grade compensation....so your aab will be seen as equivalent to a levels aab....(even if it could have been a*a*a equivalent)....that would be enough for entry in recent past, but may not be enough now....

obviously it is easier to get into uk because they make up most of the places available....oz used to be very popular, but i understand it is now not so, partly because of the cost, and partly the current problem with inadequate intern places.....

there are no cadavers in imu.....there is no problem with imu phase 1 students fitting into clinicals in pms med schools in the past...although there has been recent complains of deteriorating standards of some students....

august intake attracts lots of a level students, and with grade inflation, there are thousands literally with aaa....hence more competitive....it is more difficult to get atar95, hence less students qualifying in the feb intake....

all ipts med schools unfortunately do not have a centralised system of application, which would have allowed them to select the BEST students....applications come trickling in all year long, and they select on a first come first offered basis, as long as you satisfy the basic criteria (currently 95/aaa)....so a better student may be rejected as places are filled, unless he doesn't mind waiting for the next intake.....
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Intriguing.

Indeed I have a preference of UK over Auzzie due to several reasons.

Did i make the correct choice of applying for the Feb 2015 intake with deferment to August 2015 then?

Based on this statement of yours,

"all ipts med schools unfortunately do not have a centralised system of application, which would have allowed them to select the BEST students....applications come trickling in all year long, and they select on a first come first offered basis, as long as you satisfy the basic criteria (currently 95/aaa)....so a better student may be rejected as places are filled, unless he doesn't mind waiting for the next intake.....",

am i correct to infer that those who choose to be interviewed in August is disadvantaged compared to those who choose to be interviewed in June? Since you mentioned first-come-first-served basis.


Also curiously, when is the list of interview dates for the year 2015 likely to come out?
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ May 2 2014, 10:49 AM)
Effective this Sept 2014, IMU students transferring to Liverpool U will pay 3,750 pounds additional per year and next year onwards it will be raised to 10,000 pounds.

Wow, another additonal RM200K and we hope the Ringgit at least maintain its current value.
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Even excluding the newly introduced transfer fees of about RM 4000 per semester for PMS programs, without a

teaching hospital of its own , IMU is charging higher pre-clinical fees than majority of UK medicine schools who owns

one or more teaching hospitals.

Malaysia truly Asia, and

IMU truly BOLEH! cry.gif

CRONY lagi Boleh! rclxub.gif

Note: Transfer fees of ALL PMS during pre-clinical is RM 4000 per semester x 5 semesters = RM 20000. On top of this,

transfer to Liverpool will incur extra over charge of GBP 3750 per year*


* =per year of preclinical of 2.5 years or Liverpool clinical of 3 years ........ any clue???

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QUOTE(mmsbr @ May 5 2014, 10:00 PM)
haha, spot on.

I am not picky in my choice of medical school. My only 2 criteria are accreditation and costs. Tuition fees of Med schools like UCD in Ireland can reach upwards of SGD 500k or above RM1.2mill. Scary figures.

Why do you say 'chance of getting uk is very high'? Is that based on the sheer number of UK PMS compared to Auzzie PMS? What other factors play a part in the allocation of PMS?

Yep, i understand that unis like Keele and BSMS are not recognised by the SMC according to the SMC second schedule.

How difficult is it to adapt to UK teaching styles after 2.5 years in bukit jalil?

Btw, IMU uses prosections instead of dissections?

Also, is it an urban legend or a truth that August intakes have higher cut-off ? And how much higher? Would AAB be enough?
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If you can afford SGD 500 K and above, Ireland is your best bet. As SMC recognition is taken care of. blush.gif

Otherwise, IMU-PMS is the way to go -- for your scenario ......

as I am afraid you have NO chance in UK med schools with Singapore AAB,

if only you have taken CIE, you would have met the AAA requirements of typical UK/Oz med schools, thus having

wider choices than now. cry.gif

This post has been edited by zeng: May 6 2014, 01:59 AM
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Even excluding the newly introduced transfer fees of  about RM 4000 per  semester for PMS programs, without a

teaching hospital of its own , IMU is charging higher pre-clinical fees than majority of UK medicine schools who owns

one or more teaching hospitals.

Malaysia truly Asia, and

IMU truly BOLEH! cry.gif

CRONY lagi Boleh! rclxub.gif

Note: Transfer fees of ALL PMS during pre-clinical is RM 4000 per semester x 5 semesters = RM 20000. On top of this,

transfer to Liverpool will incur extra over charge of GBP 3750 per year*
* =per year of preclinical of 2.5  years or Liverpool clinical of 3 years ........ any clue???
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For the transfer to Liverpool, it's 3750 per clinical year for the 2014 intake and subsequently 10k per clinical year for the 2015 intake and so forth. smile.gif

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