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 International Medical University, IMU @ Bukit Jalil, Seremban, & Johor

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post Dec 29 2013, 01:44 PM

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personal statements and vocational experience does not pay a part in the matching process via imu....it is however very important in applying for direct entry into uk med schools....
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post Dec 29 2013, 07:42 PM

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Thanks! =D Glad that's the case!!

And some more questions =):

1. How does the medical school rank us? Do they do this only by ranking the grades? Or are there any other factors as well? Like, Extra-curricular in IMU or the letter of reference by the teacher?

2. If I pass EVERY SINGLE EXAM in IMU, am I guaranteed a place in a UK PMS?

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post Dec 29 2013, 08:10 PM

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the basic criteria will be academic performance....but some med schools have additional criteria, eg, some exclude any students who have failed any sem exam...eca plays no part...

if you successfully completed phase 1, you are guaranteed a match, but there is no guarantee of which uni, or which country....you can still be matched to oz, or ireland....but since the majority of places are in uk, the chance of a uk match is high....
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post Jan 1 2014, 02:34 PM

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hi,

i read recently that China has recognised more than 50 local universities. Does that mean a local dental or medic degree can be eligible to work in China/ Hong Kong?
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post Jan 1 2014, 03:35 PM

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hk has a different medical council, which does NOT recognise any degree other than the 2 in hk (hku and cuhk)....everybody else needs to sit for a qualifying exam....

recognising a uni does NOT mean recognising a qualification, as that depends on the respective professional licensing bodies.....msia also recognised many prc unis, but only the 2 'pushed through politically' med schools are recognised....paradoxically, while msia is one country that recognises the most number of foreign med schools, spore recognise more prc ones....
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post Jan 1 2014, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 1 2014, 03:35 PM)
hk has a different medical council, which does NOT recognise any degree other than the 2 in hk (hku and cuhk)....everybody else needs to sit for a qualifying exam....

recognising a uni does NOT mean recognising a qualification, as that depends on the respective professional licensing bodies.....msia also recognised many prc unis, but only the 2 'pushed through politically' med schools are recognised....paradoxically, while msia is one country that recognises the most number of foreign med schools, spore recognise more prc ones....
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From what I was told by a friend in HK, the (HK) medical council was very forward-looking, or just about any medical graduate from mainland prc will be practicing in HK now. They are similarly as strict with pharmacy graduates, if I am not mistaken.
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post Jan 2 2014, 07:14 PM

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Ummm please help me choose/decide sad.gif

I have been accepted(direct entry) to study medicine at one of NZ's med schools as well as IMU.

I know that later in my studies I'll have to do residency/fellowship and from what I have heard England(a choice offered by IMU) is a much better place to do it than NZ.

If I graduate MBBS from England I think it would be easier to secure a place for residency. I'm not sure about my chances if I graduated from NZ. Also, graduating from England seem to provide me with more opportunities with my career and connections. Therefore, from this perspective, I think IMU is much desirable.

However, IMU doesn't guarantee that I'll be matched to a UK uni and the PMS I'm matched to might not be as good as the NZ med school I got accepted into. And NZ med schools might not be looked upon as that bad, so my chance in the UK for residency might also be there.

Also, I'm not sure if there will be discrimination when applying to residency/fellowship if they see that my pre-clinical years were done in Malaysia as opposed to in the UK. smile.gif

Please help me by providing some information/opinion about this!~

Thank you!
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post Jan 2 2014, 07:33 PM

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Do you have pending application to UK med schools ?
Meaning ..... awaiting interview prior to offer .... smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2014, 08:07 PM

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there is NO 'direct entry' into med school in nz....you will be admitted into health sciences for the first year, and then will have to compete with all other students for places into all health related courses, including medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, physiotherapy etc....

ie, it is very possible for one NOT to get a place in medicine after the 1st year...
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post Jan 2 2014, 09:48 PM

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Oh sorry I forgot to mention that I'm in a special programme that the uni formed with my home country, which guarantees me into Med after a successful completion of the first year of Health Sciences smile.gif

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post Jan 2 2014, 09:50 PM

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No I have not heard any replies from the UK unis yet. Might have to possibly wait till Feb/March sad.gif
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QUOTE(Yaoni @ Jan 2 2014, 09:48 PM)
Oh sorry I forgot to mention that I'm in a special programme that the uni formed with my home country, which guarantees me into Med after a successful completion of the first year of Health Sciences smile.gif
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the only country i know which used to have this arrangement was malaysia....so are you malaysian?....

it was a VERY unpopular arrangement amongst their home students, as well as internationals....
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post Jan 3 2014, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Yaoni @ Jan 2 2014, 09:50 PM)
No I have not heard any replies from the UK unis yet. Might have to possibly wait till Feb/March sad.gif
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For those applying UK medicine before Oct last year , with UKCAT/BMAT and Personal Statement satisfactory to some Schools, interview may be conducted in KL/Singapore by Jan/February of following year. Offer could have been sent out by February onwards.

If one is not called for interview by end March ........ one more or less kisses goodbye to UK medical schools for coming September intake ......

Best wishes to your application. hmm.gif

Btw Kiwi med schools are six years, if ever you managed to be accepted into Medicine in Year 2 ..... supposely base on your Year 1 performance and interview etc... and its fees are rclxub.gif

IMU PMS (Uk) would be 2.5 years + 3 years.

UK direct entry would be 5 years. smile.gif

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it's okay.....one can just enrol in imu, and match to uk....easier, back door pathway....
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post Jan 4 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Yaoni @ Jan 2 2014, 10:48 PM)
Oh sorry I forgot to mention that I'm in a special programme that the uni formed with my home country, which guarantees me into Med after a successful completion of the first year of Health Sciences smile.gif
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please about your special programme ?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 1 2014, 03:35 PM)
hk has a different medical council, which does NOT recognise any degree other than the 2 in hk (hku and cuhk)....everybody else needs to sit for a qualifying exam....

recognising a uni does NOT mean recognising a qualification, as that depends on the respective professional licensing bodies.....msia also recognised many prc unis, but only the 2 'pushed through politically' med schools are recognised....paradoxically, while msia is one country that recognises the most number of foreign med schools, spore recognise more prc ones....
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i thought even recognised university graduates need to take conversion test in order to work in a particular country? say, two graduates from UK and IMU, how are they different in terms of gaining accreditation and eventually being able to work in Singapore?
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 4 2014, 07:55 PM)
i thought even recognised university graduates need to take conversion test in order to work in a particular country? say, two graduates  from UK and IMU, how are they different in terms of gaining accreditation and eventually being able to work in Singapore?
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you thought wrong...

smc recognises all the old med schools in uk as equivalent to nus, no further exam needed.....

imu is not recognised.....cannot work...

there is a qualifying exam similar to mmc's mqe, but i understand few or nobody take the exam....

doctors with british postgraduate qualifications eg mrcp/mrcs can be granted provisional registration to work, even if the primary qualification is not recognised....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 4 2014, 08:02 PM)
you thought wrong...

smc recognises all the old med schools in uk as equivalent to nus, no further exam needed.....

imu is not recognised.....cannot work...

there is a qualifying exam similar to mmc's mqe, but i understand few or nobody take the exam....

doctors with british postgraduate qualifications eg mrcp/mrcs can be granted provisional registration to work, even if the primary qualification is not recognised....
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means there IS a qualifying exam? which applies for many other countries. otherwise how do you explain so many graduates with unrecognised qualification being able to work in places they intend to?
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post Jan 4 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 4 2014, 07:55 PM)
i thought even recognised university graduates need to take conversion test in order to work in a particular country? say, two graduates  from UK and IMU, how are they different in terms of gaining accreditation and eventually being able to work in Singapore?
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Graduates of most , but not all, of UK medical schools which are listed in SMC Second Schedule (including Malaysia's UM and UKM full time graduates) need not undergo qualifying exam in order to work in Singapore.

Graduates of 'certain' UK medical schools (such as Warwick etc) and all local ipts (such as IMU, Monash malaysia etc) which are not listed in SMC Second Schedule are required to undergo qualifying exam in Spore. sweat.gif

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post Jan 4 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 4 2014, 08:36 PM)
means there IS a qualifying exam? which applies for many other countries. otherwise how do you explain so many graduates with unrecognised qualification being able to work in places they intend to?
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There is a qualifying exam for graduates of foreign medical schools generally in 2 scenarios -
a )in countries that do not have such thing as 'recognition list' such as US, Hong Kong(?) etc ;
b )in countries where there is a 'recognition list' ,such as Malaysia, Singapore etc , that the related medical school in not part of the list. smile.gif


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