from next year, graduate entry med schools will be in a separate stream, and applicants will need to indicate their choice, as they do now for either pms or seremban stream........

there will not be a postgraduate medical programme in imu........the new stream is purely because there are now 5 pms which are graduate entry, and will require completing the b med sc at imu.......so the number of students in the stream will increase significantly......

uq, anu, warwick, sydney and melb.........

the only reason why anyone would bother to do the b med sc extra year, is so they qualify to partner to uq.......and of course now the others as well......

if finance is an issue, they should not be in the pms stream to begin with......however should finance become a problem half way through their course, they can always opt for the seremban phase 2.......

it's the reverse that is NOT possible, ie from local to pms stream, as the pms places is very restricted......

for info......there are about 120 pms places every batch.....yet they take in 180 students into the pms stream each batch.......go calculate your chances......

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Added on September 16, 2009, 8:30 amthe graduate entry programme is under a separate stream now.....but, under the new arrangements, i really do not see anyone wanting to partner to melbourne or sydney.........or even anu........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Sep 16 2009, 08:30 AM

you get a ranking when you join one of the pms..........

the old system was 2 1/2+3=5 1/2 years.....

the new system is 3 1/2 (MUST do b med sc imu, no matter if you already has another degree)+4=7 1/2 years.........

who in his right mind will do this?..........

yes........

it's a graduate entry programme, so you will need a full degree first, then enter at ground floor........

let's see if anyone bother with this option.........

it is ground floor.......you start at year 1, just like everybody else.........

imu have generally no deadline for submission of applications for the medicine programme...........

for the feb intake, they want the interview completed by end of november.........after that, it is considered late application and places only offered if there are still vacancies after the first round of offers...........otherwise, eligible applicants are then considered for the next aug intake.............

it fluctuates a bit.......

how did the repeat sam go this time?.....

that is excellent......good luck....

yes.......applicants are pooled, ranked, and then cut off applied based on seats available.........a good batch, and the cut off would be 95 (eg m107) or 91 (me/dt108)..........they have a system of equitation with the different pre-u's people apply with.........

what is 'recognition letter' and 'recognition staff'.........

'better' uni is subjective and relative......which continent was she aiming for, and which uni did she get?...........

there has been some instances of changes and swappings, but very few........

wait for 2nd round offers.....

wonder which is the preferred pathway now, imu-pms or monash msia.........and wonder if any of the first batch just graduating from monash msia got any jobs in oz..........by 2012, it is possible some international students graduating from oz unis may not even get housejob offers........

more grads than housemanship places........

monash msia grads NEVER has any right to work in oz, just have a recognised degree that's all.........that is why people who knows the facts will choose imu over monash..........and why i ask what's the preference now.........

yes, you need this noc........this was in response to the situation some years back, when these unis, mostly russian and indian and indonesian med schools, were taking in VERY weak students, as long as you can pay the fees..........

however, it does not apply to local courses, but applies to the overseas ones, and may apply for some of those twinning ones too, eg mmmc..........

it is a weak response to a bad situation......lots of people just bypass the step, and seriously in the present standard of spm, 5 b4's is too low a cut off.......nobody below the top 10 percentile should consider medicine, and effectively means NOBODY who does not have at least 5A's should consider medicine......

in any case, the restriction should not be at spm level anyway, but at the pre-u level......unfortunately there is so many pathways after spm, it was not possible to control that level.......and also, many of the med schools take in students straight from spm, bypassing any pre-u except for their inhouse foundation.........

but this is after all bolehland.........everything boleh........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 27 2009, 02:56 PM

the situation in oz is more of a administrative lag...........over the last 10 years, there is an acute shortage of doctors, and the gov responded by increasing intake in existing med schools, as well as starting new med schools in responce to the needs..........in total, there was about a 50% increase in production, similar to what uk did in the 90's..........

however, the number of houseman jobs did not keep up with this increase........and it will be corrected in the next few years as more places are created, as well as dispersing some housemanship training to the regional hospitals..........

the situation in msia is however out of hand, as in addition to the increased in production locally of about doubled within the last 5 and next 5 years, there is also a huge surge in those returning from overseas, particularly russia..........absorbing the housemans is not an issue in bolehland, as they are just assigned to hospitals, no matter how many there are already.........but it is estimated that by 2012 or soon after, all existing mo posts will be filled, and there may be a problem of accommodating all the post ho doctors passing out..........

we may yet get dr. taxi drivers, like some countries.........

you can apply with your AS and forecast results, and have you interviews earlier........you may then get a conditional offer at the end of december, specifying what the cut off is, say abb........and when your result is released, and you get that or higher, you are then confirmed a place........if you fail to meet the minimum required, then your conditional offer is void.......

no........

Or you prefer being spoon fed 8 hrs a day, rote learning, and need to answer questions verbatim from the text books?...........

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1147877/+300

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Added on February 18, 2010, 7:16 pmthey take in about 230/batch.........about 50-60 are for the local stream........leaving 170 for pms.........

there are about 120+ pms places/batch (including graduate entry schools).........

which means about 50 will drop out along the way.......some will just decide it's not for them, some will get offers elsewhere (too late for replacement), some will flunk eos2 (about 20% or 40-50) and need to repeat a sem, or just flunk out.........

and IF there are still more people left at the end than pms places.......they will just flunk the bottom bits in eos3 to tailor the final numbers to the available places...........

and yes, people really do flunk out........the intake criteria is NOT strict........so expect some stragglers who scrape in just over the cut offs to struggle.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 18 2010, 07:16 PM

good medical schools have few drop outs........they choose their students very carefully.........

bad medical schools ALSO have few drop outs.......they take in students liberally.......they will pass everyone......no matter how bad........

imu is unique in the sense that they have somewhat bad med school intake policy but also have to maintain standards so the pms (which are all GOOD med schools) will accept the students......hence the need for the attrition rate........

not to mention how the few semester fees of the drop outs will do wonders for the financial bottom line.........