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 Earning Salary More than RM 5K, Those below 28, share ur tips here!!

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lwb
post Sep 17 2007, 02:04 PM

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i did mentioned about the lack of loyalty in the workplace several posts back.. some of the forumers here didn't see it (they thought that loyalty is still very much alive..)

well.. read this:
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...66&sec=business

just notice the quote below (extracted from the site above)
The US Department of Labor, in an employee tenure survey, noted that one-third were in jobs for less than two years, while two-thirds stayed no longer than five years.

"They are always on the move and loyalty is out," said Banks, who heads a human resource (HR) outsourcing company based in Australia.
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 17 2007, 02:02 PM)
MLM and direct selling are all crap. Most of my friends did not listen to my advice and end up regretting later.
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that's quite a sweeping remarks you've made there, kiddo..
placing a broad umbrella blanket on the entire industry without understanding it is like a blind fool feeling up an elephant and describing it as a banana tree, for instance..

what you see/hear/feel so far about MLM is crap... but this does not represent that ALL MLM are crap..
there're certain business framework you need to understand before you start crapping the entire industry out..


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post Sep 17 2007, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 17 2007, 12:59 PM)
haha even nowadays MLM people have to "share" BMW to impress the waterfishes.
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got such thing ? how to share ler?


Added on September 17, 2007, 2:17 pm
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 17 2007, 02:02 PM)
MLM and direct selling are all crap. Most of my friends did not listen to my advice and end up regretting later.
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I think the proper way of putting it would be : SOME PEOPLE who involved in MLM/Direct sales are craps, they use tactics to trick ppl into business ; those who join BLINDLY without understanding the industry are craps , when they suffer failure , pls don blame ppl for cheating them , this is dog eat dog n eat human world.... whistling.gif

MLM/Direct sale is a very effective way of selling (of course , for the company ), n effective way of rewarding for those who really put in effort CORRECTLY... icon_rolleyes.gif

Part of my income is from MLM/direct sale n non of my frens think i m a crap, they fully understood the capability / interest of themselves tht's y they don join n i don force /lure them into the industry...... icon_rolleyes.gif

this is not MLM discussion thread, so i don expect any flame reply, can boom my inbox if any... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by yewkhuay: Sep 17 2007, 02:17 PM
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 17 2007, 02:04 PM)
"They are always on the move and loyalty is out," said Banks, who heads a human resource (HR) outsourcing company based in Australia.
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Is partially true here, do take note that job/labour market here and US/AUS is not very similar. Here many ppl still like to go into comfort zone. So I believe here loyalty<->comfort is almost the same, in many ppl perception. Loyalty is usually towards Boss and teammates ("i enjoy working with my boss/team") more than ("i enjoy working in this industry/comp"), I feel.

QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 17 2007, 02:09 PM)
what you see/hear/feel so far about MLM is crap... but this does not represent that ALL MLM are crap..
Ok Ok this is not MLM debate thread, guys please... response.redirect "Kopitiam / RWS" ...
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 17 2007, 02:04 PM)
i did mentioned about the lack of loyalty in the workplace several posts back.. some of the forumers here didn't see it (they thought that loyalty is still very much alive..)

well.. read this:
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...66&sec=business

just notice the quote below (extracted from the site above)
The US Department of Labor, in an employee tenure survey, noted that one-third were in jobs for less than two years, while two-thirds stayed no longer than five years.

"They are always on the move and loyalty is out," said Banks, who heads a human resource (HR) outsourcing company based in Australia.
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i do consider two-thirds with 5 years stay gang a "quite" royal group, back here in malaysia. it's a norm for employee like us to look behind when we reach a particular career milestone. for instance, we changed job after 2 years of working as a fresh, and we changed job every two years to get better pay. after 30th, we tend to stabilise and building up career path, though, we may still change job every 5 years or less. for those staying on the field for more than 10/20/30 years, either they are still with good salary (and still counting) and potential promotion, or those in comfortable zone with 1 year experience repeated 30 times.

This post has been edited by callmepaper: Sep 17 2007, 02:43 PM
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(callmepaper @ Sep 17 2007, 02:42 PM)
or those in comfortable zone with 1 year experience repeated 30 times.
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(Love the phrase above) I feel that one should avoid this type of job roles, it is really a waste to let your (working) life go by rinsing and repeating. Of course I speak from IT perspective, accountants may disagree ...
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post Sep 17 2007, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Sep 17 2007, 02:54 PM)
(Love the phrase above) I feel that one should avoid this type of job roles, it is really a waste to let your (working) life go by rinsing and repeating. Of course I speak from IT perspective, accountants may disagree ...
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(i love the phrase above too).. reminds me of a whacko washing machine.. aka "oops, i did it again" britney stylo..
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post Sep 17 2007, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 17 2007, 02:09 PM)
that's quite a sweeping remarks you've made there, kiddo..
placing a broad umbrella blanket on the entire industry without understanding it is like a blind fool feeling up an elephant and describing it as a banana tree, for instance..

what you see/hear/feel so far about MLM is crap... but this does not represent that ALL MLM are crap..
there're certain business framework you need to understand before you start crapping the entire industry out..
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Don't feel offended just because you're part of the MLM community smile.gif The way you reply doesn't show you're any better than the rest. I couldn't care less and we'll see who is the blind fool at the end of the day. Nevertheless, I wish you all the best in your MLM job.
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post Sep 18 2007, 05:47 AM

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Hi,
My average monthly income is around 6k-10k.

Now I try to discipline myself to saving rather than spending.


1) qualifications
IT
2) line of work
Networker
3) how u got the position and tips!
-show your interest and commit to do it.
-willing to learn

Thanks.

Cheers!!!

lwb
post Sep 18 2007, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 17 2007, 05:53 PM)
Don't feel offended just because you're part of the MLM community smile.gif The way you reply doesn't show you're any better than the rest. I couldn't care less and we'll see who is the blind fool at the end of the day. Nevertheless, I wish you all the best in your MLM job.
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the best SOB reply i've heard so far.. says who i'm part of the MLM community?!?
i represent a neutral party who once blindy rejected anything to do with MLM..

but today, i'm studying their framework, operations, profitability and business acuments..
please la.. don't be a blind dumbfark who fire-first-then-ask-question later..

MLM job konon..

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post Sep 18 2007, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kwaytiau @ Sep 18 2007, 05:47 AM)
Hi,
My average monthly income is around 6k-10k.

Now I try to discipline myself to saving rather than spending.
1) qualifications
IT
2) line of work
Networker
3) how u got the position and tips!
-show your interest and commit to do it.
-willing to learn

Thanks.

Cheers!!!
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i hope you find your right path.. wealth is not what you earn, but what you eventually keep.
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 18 2007, 11:59 AM)
i hope you find your right path.. wealth is not what you earn, but what you eventually keep.
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well said bro.....

expenses = income - saving !!!!

saving come 1st!!!
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 18 2007, 11:51 AM)
the best SOB reply i've heard so far.. says who i'm part of the MLM community?!?
i represent a neutral party who once blindy rejected anything to do with MLM..

but today, i'm studying their framework, operations, profitability and business acuments..
please la.. don't be a blind dumbfark who fire-first-then-ask-question later..

MLM job konon..
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what's that to fuss about? peace.
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:14 PM

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University Lecturer

1) qualifications?
- u need to invest a bit of years. 4 years atleast. and u'll be a doctor and starting salary would be of DS 52 - RM 4998.70 for PITI

2) line of work?
-academic of course. plus flexible time.

3) how u got the position and tips?
- apply loooo

that P1T1 starts at RM 4998.70. plus cola RM 200. (thats well above ur 'least' demand salary') then the allowance for house 1200. and plus the allowance for entertainment 900.

do the math!
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(callmepaper @ Sep 18 2007, 04:05 PM)
what's that to fuss about? peace.
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There are always uneducated people around, especially in LY.net smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Sep 18 2007, 12:39 PM)
well said bro.....

expenses = income - saving !!!!

saving come 1st!!!
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I used to have an account specially for savings, will push $$$ in every paycheck. Then after a while I got a credit card from the same bank as the savings account and the rest (including my savings) is history cry.gif
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post Sep 19 2007, 02:59 PM

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Age: 23
Monthly income: 10k
Line of Work: IT
Qualification: Degree

How you got the position?
I'm good + a little bit of luck
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post Sep 19 2007, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(mad-d0g @ Sep 19 2007, 02:59 PM)
Age: 23
Monthly income: 10k
Line of Work: IT
Qualification: Degree

How you got the position?
I'm good + a little bit of luck
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how do u define "good"? it's interesting to know your story if you don't mind to share. earning 10k at age 23 (where most ppl still pursuing degree). if you talk about full-time employment as an IT professional with this awesome monthly pay, i'm in doubt. does it couple with some side incomes?
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post Sep 19 2007, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(mad-d0g @ Sep 19 2007, 02:59 PM)
Age: 23
Monthly income: 10k
Line of Work: IT
Qualification: Degree

How you got the position?
I'm good + a little bit of luck
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drool.gif At most ... you have only worked for 2 yrs. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 19 2007, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Sep 19 2007, 03:10 PM)
drool.gif  At most ... you have only worked for 2 yrs.  notworthy.gif
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he might had started work since primary school.

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