that's a very arrogant statement.. unless you live in a fantasized turtle shell.. go talk to the growing horde of unemployed graduates..
or if you want a better and more objective statistics.. go check out jobstreet on their payscale-industry-time survey..

although it's not to be construed as 100% accurate.. but it'll ought to give you a rethorical idea..

or another point for you to ponder.. if the majority of the rakyat in malaysia are earning more than 5K... why would petrol prices, chicken, cement, toll upward movement by a few cents bothers them?!?

so, don't make a punkass out of yourself with such a claim.. it's loud

Yes I understand not everyone has the opportunity, some are much better than what we make today, some are much worse. I would consider myself lucky too I know but from what I have experienced, I think it's do-able, nothing impossible - get what I mean?

I totally agree with you saying that a single income from a day job is no longer suffice in today's economy. Thank you.
I didnt mean to be arrogant. I know the unemployment rates are high and going up but I'd say some 30 - 40% is much dependent on that individual themselves. Statistics, data, graphs are just for show. If you are willing to step out and struggle from bottom to up, I never seen anyone died of hunger when they worked hard.

I know there are some unfortunate people who are being exploited out there. It's true they exist but mostly people are lazy themselves. It is not impossible to make 5k. In fact a lot of my friends earn 3 - 4k but they have some other jobs to sustain themselves like selling things online, make website, do insurance, real-estate, etc. It's a matter of HOW you will make the money.

Have you not heard of those young ones earning 10 or 20k a month?

Even if you make 5k or 10k, if your daily necessity increase, your expenditure increase. It didnt matter how much you make, an increase = more expenditure = less savings. All this FMCG, petrol, ciggy, etc raise a single cent and they country make some noise (which is usually not heard). So what can you do about it? Make more or spend less. That's it.

I must that while it sounds arrogant, he/she probably right. I have seen far too many ppl short changing themselves in their work and life. Why settle for something less when u know you are worth more? I realise that there are more and more young ppl these days earning good money. So arrogance = confidence... I ain't falling so why start worrying...

AC

Yea, I see you're the only one who understand my statement. I didnt mean to offend anyone or sound arrogant. Like you said many are short changing themselves in their work and life.

There is always room to improve, for change, to climb. Some people get so laid back and comfortable that they dont wish to 'fight' anymore. Some people, never stop fighting and pushed on.

I am saying all this because I know even though I am living with this kind of payout, there are many more younger than me making more than I do. This drives me to be better and make more.

I come from a poor family. I know what hard-earned really means. I had my time in some cinapek company. I had my time working part time. I paid my own education and work at the same time. It took me longer than others to obtain a degree because I worked at the same time.

All this is part and parcel of life. This make us (who wants to improve) drive forward and work harder, achieve more, benchmark yourself. This are my thoughts. Before you work, you wonder if you can touch 3k, after you get 3k, you strive for 5k, then more and more and more... Or will you just stop and be content with 5k?

please understand that i'm not here to pour acid on you folks.. i do find that there's an element to substantiate in inconclusive conclusion that you guys may have overlooked..

you see.. for example, MLM loves to hog only on the element of income.. in fact, boombastic income, right? great lifestyle, etc..

but the missing element is however, is very elusive.. which is called TIME.

you may earn 5k, 10k, etc. today.. but for how long can you keep 'em up steady? 10, 20 or perhaps 30 consecutive years?! some can't even see beyond 2 years..

i'm a pragmatic.. i'm a high-income earner.. but i'm also constantly aware that such "beautiful life" will not linger forever..

stay alert and convert as much of those salary to a perpetual income..

you guys gave good sharing, i appreciate that..

Would moving around too much seize learning opportunities?  Perhaps I'm naive in my ways but what about loyalty?

please understand that i'm not here to pour acid on you folks.. i do find that there's an element to substantiate in inconclusive conclusion that you guys may have overlooked..

you see.. for example, MLM loves to hog only on the element of income.. in fact, boombastic income, right? great lifestyle, etc..

but the missing element is however, is very elusive.. which is called TIME.

you may earn 5k, 10k, etc. today.. but for how long can you keep 'em up steady? 10, 20 or perhaps 30 consecutive years?! some can't even see beyond 2 years..

i'm a pragmatic.. i'm a high-income earner.. but i'm also constantly aware that such "beautiful life" will not linger forever..

stay alert and convert as much of those salary to a perpetual income..

you guys gave good sharing, i appreciate that..

Dude, I came from a very poor family as well so i understand that. Some of them earning 3k - 4k per month by choice. They like their comfortable lifestyle and wish no changes. What i don't understand and often see is that ppl who always claim that we are arrogant and stuff like that. Of coz we know the money doesn't fall from the sky. Nobody owe no one a living. You just gotta fight and fight for the things rightfully yours... It's simple...

I encourage young ppl who have so-called made it to continue to fight further because in our world, we are far from making it.

Peace,
AC

Like that, I think earning RM 5K is only possible in the category age of 33-36

I have seen far too many ppl short changing themselves in their work and life. Why settle for something less when u know you are worth more?

You just gotta fight and fight for the things rightfully yours... It's simple...

I encourage young ppl who have so-called made it to continue to fight further because in our world, we are far from making it.

Last time I also fell into comfort zone, and really short-changed myself. Finally woke up and decided to do something about it. Expensive lesson but never too late to realize...
@achmy
Good posts there. Appreciate it.

@yewkhuay
Loyalty gets you a pat in the back by your superior who is in no position to give you an increment. But I don't mean to say that loyalty is no good, I'm saying that you need to know when/whom to be loyal.
Yes to all forumers, we have to fight. Safeguard your future as much as possible. Know your market worth. Test it.

disagree.....by age 30 should hav 5k......

psst.. tell that to my ex-ex-partner at public mutual.. he'll probably give you a black eye..
we started around the same payscale.. i left and that was almost 5 years ago.. my income is now multifold(overclocked) of his.
our age arent far apart.. his pay is less than 4k

My friend working in China as a mechanical engineer, people expect him to earn in USD$ but he is only making RM4k++, but having a good life there and also found love there.

Is that short-changed? Well, its like we said, up to indviduality. I dont think it's so bad if he likes it, right?