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jelir
post May 3 2007, 03:12 PM


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I own a 2005 waja 1.6 MT. Recently I just went on outstation to the east coast. I was in a real hurry so I hit the acc all the way. I made it in 5 hrs non stop (KL to KB via raub gua musang~600km maybe). Upon returning to my place suddenly, the idling rpm got problem. It went to low ( almost zero) causing engine to vibrate and chocking and finally died.

Then I also notice the engine indicator lights up randomly while driving. While approaching red light for example I will switch to a lower gear but while pressing the cluth on, the rpm went straight away to 0 and engine automatically die off as well.

Went to proton authorised service. they hook up a diagnosis tool to the ECU. found that the throttle body sensor malfunction. the sensor reading on the body throttle position is 3000++ (where the normal reading would be 800~900.... can't recall the unit of measurement............ this according to the mechanic. I know nothing bout this thing.) CAll the proton parts center they quote me rm3K for the throttle body set and rm1.7k for the sensor. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Can anybody help me to find a good chop shop for this thing?

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post May 3 2007, 03:16 PM


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go to waja club and ask there
it's in www.autoworld.com
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post May 3 2007, 03:24 PM


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3k for the trottle body ?? .. he must be joking...
i ask for mitsubishi GTI throttle .. they qoute me RM950 .. which i consider expensive d.. end up i go half cut shop buy mivec throttle body for RM180 .. :-P
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post May 3 2007, 03:40 PM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 3 2007, 03:24 PM)
3k for the trottle body ?? .. he must be joking...
i ask for mitsubishi GTI throttle .. they qoute me RM950 .. which i consider expensive d.. end up i go half cut shop buy mivec throttle body for RM180 .. :-P
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Is that u put in waja or else?

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post May 3 2007, 04:10 PM


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if sensor being expensive is normal ler but TB being 3K is utter bullocks
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post May 3 2007, 04:43 PM


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QUOTE(jelir @ May 3 2007, 03:40 PM)
Is that u put in waja or else?
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the one i said is for putra ... 4G93 ..

waja one is 4G18 or Campro .. that should be cheaper than 1.8 throttle.. juz my 2 cent
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post May 3 2007, 05:14 PM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 3 2007, 04:43 PM)
the one i said is for putra ... 4G93 ..

waja one is 4G18 or Campro .. that should be cheaper than 1.8 throttle.. juz my 2 cent
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To all expert out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there any possiblity of 4G1x and 4G9x share a common throttle body sensor. it easier to find throttle body for 4G9x. Apart from that it is cheaper. If it happen to be a common part, then I can just get the 4G9x throttle body and swap the sensor to my waja. All i need is to replace the throttle body sensor.

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post May 3 2007, 06:14 PM


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QUOTE(jelir @ May 3 2007, 05:14 PM)
To all expert out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there any possiblity of 4G1x and 4G9x share a common throttle body sensor. it easier to find throttle body for 4G9x. Apart from that it is cheaper. If it happen to be a common part, then I can just get the 4G9x throttle body and swap the sensor to my waja. All i need is to replace the throttle body sensor.

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i dun think its the same...
since the engine of the 4G18 is reverse of the 4G93 (position i mean) ... The throttle body should also be reverse ..

I suggest u go to kedai potong .. ask for ur throttle body .. might come a lot cheaper
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post May 3 2007, 06:59 PM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 3 2007, 06:14 PM)


I suggest u go to kedai potong .. ask for ur throttle body .. might come a lot cheaper
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I have been to a numerous no of kedai potong in the last 2 weeks but most of them only have wira part.

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 3 2007, 06:14 PM)
i dun think its the same...
since the engine of the 4G18 is reverse of the 4G93 (position i mean) ... The throttle body should also be reverse ..


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This is what I mean. If we look at the sensor itself, one that send signal to ECU (connected using coupler and electrical wiring) not the entire set consist of throttle body and sensor, is there any possibility of both sensors for 4G1x and 4G9x are actually the same.
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post May 3 2007, 07:11 PM


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Try go to FTD .... normally mech will know where to get recon stuff
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post May 3 2007, 07:43 PM


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regulary cleaning and an oil catch tank will advoid this problem from arising after you have changed to a new unit.
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post May 3 2007, 07:55 PM


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QUOTE(micwin1437 @ May 3 2007, 07:43 PM)
regulary cleaning and an oil catch tank will advoid this problem from arising after you have changed to a new unit.
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Is his sensor problem wor.. not TB problem.. how can cleaning helps?
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 3 2007, 07:55 PM)
Is his sensor problem wor.. not TB problem.. how can cleaning helps?
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throttle body also sucks in engine oil vapour at high rev, this oil vapour will accumulated layers of coating which will spoilt the tb sensor in the long run, the dirtier the engine oil the faster it will spoil......

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QUOTE(jelir @ May 3 2007, 03:12 PM)
I own a 2005 waja 1.6 MT. Recently I just went on outstation to the east coast. I was in a real hurry so I hit the acc all the way. I made it in 5 hrs non stop (KL to KB via raub gua musang~600km maybe). Upon returning to my place suddenly, the idling rpm got problem. It went to low ( almost zero) causing engine to vibrate and chocking and finally died.

Then I also notice the engine indicator lights up randomly while driving. While approaching red light for example I will switch to a lower gear but while pressing the cluth on, the rpm went straight away to 0 and engine automatically die off as well.

Went to proton authorised service. they hook up a diagnosis tool to the ECU. found that the throttle body sensor malfunction. the sensor reading on the body throttle position is 3000++ (where the normal reading would be 800~900.... can't recall the unit of measurement............ this according to the mechanic. I know nothing bout this thing.) CAll the proton parts center they quote me rm3K for the throttle body set and rm1.7k for the sensor. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Can anybody help me to find a good chop shop for this thing?
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Actually 600km in 5 hours works out an average speed of 120km/h only, the sensor was probably on it's way out already and not because of the speeding, but the price is really quite steep.
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post May 3 2007, 08:43 PM


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Ok guys........
after the long exhausting 2 weeks, I have found the throttle body. I've bump into someone on the net who are apparently putting some waja engine parts for sell after new engine conversion. I was so lucky.

Anyway thanks guys for all the feedback.
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QUOTE(jelir @ May 3 2007, 08:43 PM)
Ok guys........
after the long exhausting 2 weeks, I have found the throttle body. I've bump into someone on the net who are apparently putting some waja engine parts for sell after new engine conversion. I was so lucky.

Anyway thanks guys for all the feedback.
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So how much u got it for?
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post May 6 2007, 07:07 AM


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erm.. quite fast if u can make 5hours KL > KB ... my kampung also at KB.. but then ussually takes me 7-8.5 hours... with stop of course...

total millege not 600km but only 474km or lesser..
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post May 6 2007, 06:55 PM


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QUOTE(detomaso @ May 6 2007, 07:07 AM)
erm.. quite fast if u can make 5hours KL > KB ... my kampung also at KB.. but then ussually takes me 7-8.5 hours... with stop of course...

total millege not 600km but only 474km or lesser..
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Well I was guessing it's 600km. It was a non stop journey for 5 hrs. On some stretches you just have to do 50km/hr or less, so you need to really hit the gas to make it about 100km/hr on average.
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