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post Jul 13 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jul 13 2020, 09:50 AM)
most of the time i using X-plore File Manager. to transfer big files between my NAS and shield.
nice UI.
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Thanks, i'm using X-plore now too. Won't be transfering anything to Shield though since only pathetic 16gb storage sweat.gif
Btw does your Astro app still have problem? Got sound but no picture?
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post Jul 13 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 13 2020, 05:48 PM)
Glad you like it, I didn't own it yet but I know it will be awesome.
Can't find a valid reason to replace my Apple TV 4K box yet. Haha!

I only recommended Nvidia Shield or Apple TV 4K if budget not an issue. Haha!
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If you only use them for streaming then not necessary to replace your Apple TV. Only if you watch local content then it is a good choice with all their lossless audio + DV passthrough.
Few months ago Nvidia said they were in talks with Apple to bring their Apple+ to their Shield, if that happens then there isn't much reason to stick with Apple TV box lol.
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post Jul 13 2020, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 13 2020, 07:38 PM)
I mostly use for local content and Apple TV 4K did a brilliant job.

Too many people though Apple is more in stream and strict control on local content.

Frank speak this is not the case, Apple had freaking well support on local content.
I had 3000+ local films and 99% most of my 4K HDR collection is REMUX copy and Apple TV 4K never fail me at all.

It support full lossless track by direct playback all track in multi channel PCM format, this is good as you no need to worried your sound system support or not all the format, you just need to ensure your system support multi channel PCM format. This help for DTS-HD as my Soundbar not support it, but due to Apple auto render to Multi-channel PCM, this make me no worried on DTS-HD track.

Ya you do miss the Atmos because now Apple only support Atmos in DD+ but not Atmos in TrueHD but this is not very huge differences as I had personally compare with original 4K UHD blu-ray which run as Atmos, and frank speak it is not very big differences at all.

That the reason I don't find the need of replace it because Apple TV 4K also support Lossless track pass through as well as all type of HDR passthru.

You talk on Dolby Vision passthru for local content? Nearly 100% local content is not Dolby Vision but only HDR because Dolby Vision unable to remux out, you need a full 4K UHD blu-ray for Dolby Vision and not much people doing this.

Also I find Dolby Vision is not that big differences as well, thanks to LG's own proprietary HDR solution which process HDR signal dynamically frame by frame using enhanced dynamic tone mapping. This process make the normal HDR and Dolby Vision basically no different. I had compare it as well and I can't notice the different. Dolby Vision in LG OLED Cinema mode do far darker than normal HDR Cinema mode which is not my liking, thanks to LG give alternate option where once you change LG OLED of Dolby Vision to Home Cinema instead of Cinema, it is like exactly LG OLED of HDR in Cinema mode.

Now the only issue is I don't have any device capable to smoothly playback the only 8K HDR film I have, it is a documentary call "Wunderkammer: World of Wonder", probably my next TV Box will be need to support 8K HDR playback. Haha!

I will buy the Nvidia Shield if this TV Box can playback 8K HDR film as currently my Apple TV 4K only manage to playback around 12 mins but then it will crash! Haha! My few years ago Core i7 with Nvidia Geforce GTX-970M laptop is playing the film like 5 fps. My LG C9 direct connect the HDD is unplayable, it said format not support. tongue.gif

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That depends on your local content, mine are ripped BDMV files so DV is still there. But still single layered, not dual layered so not sure if you still consider that as DV lol
But yes, the difference btw DV and standard HDR is minimal and differences varies depending on the content. As for LG’s proprietary method I can’t comment on that since I don’t own LG TVs lol.
Someone posted screenshots on 1080p vs HDR10 vs DV vs dual layered DV. Minimal differences that you won’t notice unless you compare side by side.

https://forums.plex.tv/t/some-thoughts-on-t...ty-tools/536340

Similarly for audio, differences btw DD+ Atmos and TrueHD Atmos isn’t that big unless you focus and pay attention to every detail. But as you are immerse in a movie through visual and aural at the same time, generally people won’t be able to notice any difference.
However I do notice audible differences btw physical Blu-ray Discs vs Blu-ray ripped/remux. So for movies that I really like, I buy original discs themselves.

8k? Still long long more time before that takes off la. Even 4K is only recently starting to take off, and that is after 7-8 years after the first 4K tv was released.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 13 2020, 09:39 PM)
Actually today make me feel 4K HDR is not a must if you have a group of people that very well known to remaster / transfer the film.

I just watch Marriage Story - Criterion Collection edition, OMG! From details to color is far far far better than original version Netflix provided in Dolby Vision. Off course Netflix is compress but color & film noise wise, Criterion Collection did far better.

They is no different of REMUX v/s original, you know what is REMUX right, it is fully unaltered version of original DVD / BD / UltraHD BD.

I also do REMUX myself all original BD I have as I am freaking lazy insert disc already.
I can't REMUX UltraHD BD as I don't have UltraHD BD disc drive for PC. It is freaking expensive and difficult to get.

Ripped is compress if it is compression used on it and normally it is compress and people will not call it or put it as REMUX because REMUX is no compression, it is exactly same size and same quality as original where normally people use MKVToolNix to REMUX from original TS file where store at BD or UltraHD BD.

Maybe 8K won't be take off but I just want to playback that documentary. tongue.gif
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Yes 4K definitely not a must, some of the mastering for 4K can be even worse than the 1080p blu rays. Terminator 2 4k wasn't that popular with enthusiasts lol

That is supposed to be so. However i have compared a number of Remux copies with my own original blu-ray discs in the past and i do hear significant audible differences to me. Don't ask me why because i don't know either but my ears tells me differently lol


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post Jul 13 2020, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 13 2020, 10:51 PM)
So far I had another 2 titles did bad in 4K HDR, the worst is the 1st Superman movie, this is terrible bad! I hope Warner Bros redo it.
Second is King Kong (Peter Jackson edition).

But most the time remastered in 4K HDR still far better than 1080p blu-ray, here some oldest title that make you jaw drop restoration.
2001: A Space Odyssey, Alien, Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter, The Doors, Bram Stoker's Dracula, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Easy Rider, Lawrence of Arabia, Schindler's List, The Shining, War of the Worlds, The Mask of Zorro, The Wizard of Oz.
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Ahh War of the Worlds... still in my Amazon cart with another 4 titles. Waiting for them to drop in price before i pull the trigger. Especially Seven Worlds, One Planet.
It's been a long long time since i've watched Zorro... time to revisit and watch my old flame Zeta biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 21 2020, 08:55 PM)
Hi, did you using LG OLED TV?

I am considering Nvidia Shield TV 2019 now but I can't find much what Dolby Vision profile is support.

So far I already have all kind of profile film but the support is miss here and there.

Apple TV 4K

  • dvhe.04.06 - MrMC player only
  • dvhe.05.06 - MrMC & Infuse player
  • dvhe.06.06 - MrMC player only
  • dvhe.07.06 - No support
LG C9 TV Internal Player

  • dvhe.04.06 - Not support
  • dvhe.05.06 - Able to playback but with dual image error
  • dvhe.06.06 - Not support
  • dvhe.07.06 - Support, playback without issue
Wonder can Nvidia Shield TV 2019 support all dvhe profile or not.
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dvhe.07.06 is profile 7 which is dual layer right? No media box at this point can play dual layer from what i've read. Only direct from your LG TV.
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post Jul 23 2020, 03:31 PM

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Well if you don't play games, the UBP-X700 is a decent UHD player that supports local media content at 1/2 the price tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2020, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 23 2020, 03:53 PM)
A lot comment this model full of issues, else I already bought last time.

Wait PS5 la. Haha!

I mentioned it means I play games. Haha!
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I've already had the X700 for 2 years lol, had no issues with it so far.
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post Aug 16 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(lockmunk @ Aug 15 2020, 10:59 PM)
can i buy shield using forwarder such as buyandship instead of buy from amazon which shipping charge $45?
is using forwarder can get cheaper postage? what about custom?
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Might as well buy from local seller at Shopee to save the hassle. Unless there is a significant discount on amazon, you’ll only save a little by going that route.
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post Aug 16 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Aug 16 2020, 07:50 PM)
I believe that if you pay the USD46.44 for this nVidia Shield 2019 Pro at Amazon, you don't have to worry about SIRIM.
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Duty tax is different from SIRIM permit. You would have to pay for both duty tax and SIRIM if your product didn’t slip through their check.
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post Aug 21 2020, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(zombie24 @ Aug 20 2020, 04:48 PM)
Looking to get a unit online..any good vendors to recommend?
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Shopee have around 2 sellers selling for RM1,099. There are some penjana limited codes going on at the moment, might be able to get RM20+ off.


QUOTE(neekun @ Aug 21 2020, 08:23 AM)
I have many "videos" in mkv format stored on external hard drive. Currently I just plug into USB port of tv to play but mostly the files are not playable due to codec issue.

If I get a Nvidia shield pro and connect the external hard drive to it, can it be played more reliably? The correct way to doing this is use vlc player installed in Nvidia and play the mkv and output via hdmi to tv?

Thanks.
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Yes, you can do that via Kodi player. Most of mine are M2TS format with a few MKV, no issues with playback.
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post Aug 27 2020, 10:28 AM

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I still want a proper OFF button that completely switches off the Shield. Not put it to sleep...
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post Sep 4 2020, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Aug 27 2020, 03:19 PM)
There are few ways to complete shutdown Shield TV:-
> If using Shield 2019 remote or any 3rd party remote with dedicated power button, then just long press power button for more than 8 seconds or until NSTV shutdown.
> Add the Shutdown shortcut to quick setting menu, so when you long press back button it will open the quick setting menu
> if the remote have menu button, it can be customized to add Shutdown command. *not so sure if nvidia have added the command
What is the function that your tv remote can't do except Air Mouse and what about your original Shield remote?
I have been using my Sony TV remote mostly to navigate and even able to access Home, Recents apps & etc shortcut via CEC.
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Thanks, never knew about the 8sec long press. New problem is how to turn it back on after it is off? The only way that works is replugging the power chord 😅
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post Sep 4 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Sep 4 2020, 03:37 PM)
Unfortunately, that is the only way to turn it ON after a complete power OFF. 😂
To overcome that issue, u cn diy a new extension cable with in-line switch, add 2 flat pin female socket & place it somewhere accessible.

For my usage, i will juz leave it at standby once the main switch is turned on & will only power off at night or when goin out & nobody's at home.
The shield only use very minimum power during standby especially the newer shield 2019.
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lol silly design by Nvidia wtf... can't they implement a normal on & off like so many other devices...

Not sure if it is because i have never off it for months, but turning the TV shield pro 2019 on doesn't instantly on the TV at the same time. Last time it took only a second for the TV to on after i press the Shield's power remote, but now there is a delay of more than 5-10 secs for the TV to on...
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post Sep 4 2020, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Sep 4 2020, 05:17 PM)
There are many users would agree with u on the ON/OFF function & nvidia did respond to it with similar answer as per megahertz explanation, it was designed to be always ON for the plex server & smart functions.

There were complaints on the slow wake up issue on the forum & nvidia did respond on the matter by suggesting a complete power cycle for TV, Shield & AVR to reset hdmi cec connection.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums...er-shield-expe/
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Thanks for the info, by reset meaning unplug the power source for all the devices?
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post Sep 4 2020, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Sep 4 2020, 09:34 PM)
Yup, this will cause all device connected via HDMI to re-negotiate the handshake.
Do unplug for 10 to 15 second b4 replug in to power drain the devices.
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Thanks for the info! Will try if it works biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fentanyl @ Sep 5 2020, 09:50 AM)
I beg to differ. Can other android boxes play Netflix in 4K?
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The biggest highlight for the Shield is Atmos on Netflix. Most android boxes does not have Netflix Atmos enabled app.
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post Sep 6 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Sep 5 2020, 02:26 PM)
i use media server as box

under 1.8k

12c24t xeon rx580 16g ddr3
named anything u want to do.

even emulate switch with this server
netflix u want 8k also can
sound? it depends ur speaker

wat is nvidia tv shit @rm1k?
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My dad and his whole Home theatre gang after decades of using media server pc opt for media box as well. Once you have reached there you will understand. If you’re not there yet then you wouldn’t understand.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Sep 6 2020, 12:28 PM)
can android tv box fit in

sound processor unit?
like creative sound blaster or asus xonar?

media box is great because its cheap
and easy to use

definitely not for prosumer

old ppl tend to go less tech savvy stuff
no offence.
1st i m sorry if i use some harsh words
just mind boggling if sone1 paying premium price for entry level staff.

shield TV is highest end tv Box (1 of it)
but its price already touch much higher end solution

but i guess i maybe wrong
as many still paying Apple Macs for nearly 30% performance / dollar compare DIY setup.
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Huh? Why would they want to use a cheapo sound processor like Asus or Creative in a media box or even a media server pc?
No offence, but they use AVR system and their whole home theatre setup are in the 6 digits minimum. You might think old people are not tech savvy, but when it comes to Home theatre tech they are willing to break the bank for equipment that makes a bigger difference than a media server pc which ultimately functions the same as a media box.

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Is Astro app still not fixed with Nvidia Shield?

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