in my opinion all forumers should validate their identity by sending ic photocopy and valid address to admin and been verify before can make any transaction in lowyat.net...

this is important to make sure no more fraud case or it can be reduce ...

this is my suggestion oni...

hope admin can pin this thread

who is going to check the validity of the ic and address????

Been suggested before, discussed before, result is no

i dun wan my identify(photostat ic) being expose to a stranger....

if no cannot do anything la ... for new comer how we must to trust them.. cod is a good idea but if 1 person at penang and another 1 at johor .. its hard is it...

then buy from the local store, or from trusted seller, abit expensive is ok, people get conned becoz they fall for cheap price.

dont buy from newbie...

online trading is all about trust.
if u dun trust each other, then dun trade lor..
juz buy from a local store would do..

as simple as that

PS - lelong oso got so many scam and con case, even they got ic validate feature

thats why they got something call safe trade for newbies, haha, but i doubt lyn can implement it

well, one more reason is this is a forum, a place to sharing and changing informations/experiences, discussion and gaining knowledge..

its not built specially to trading..like lelong and ebay..

thats why there are no implementation for things such as mentioned above..

this has been discuss tons of times before. All the reasons above has been pointed out. Short answer is "NO".

Mods should close this thread.

trade at ur own risk

Anyone who's suggested this hasn't thought anywhere further than just the basic idea

Explain to me how the mods will be able to verify someone's IC?
If i take my friend's IC and claim to be him, how would u be able to know that the person in the IC is not me when no one in the forum has ever seen me?
And LYN does not have access to government records or anything, i could photoshop a random person's pic and make up the details and no one would be able to know that they're fake

Suggestions are good, but think of them yourself before voicing them out

This post has been edited by KilJim: May 3 2007, 02:54 PM

con cases will never ended

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=38

this is freakin' hilarious...

reminds me of the April Fool's joke 'announcement' on the front page you guys made...

i dont think this is a good idea. this will open up the seller's privacy. There's other alternative way beside showing ic ( but ic oso can be fake la.. )

we prefer is like ebay system. full secure. learn from ebay perhaps just my 2 cents.

You're asking a forum to learn from an auction site

Yup ofcourse its good....
But do u want to pay to sell here?

I know, u dont need to pay to sell in lelong.com.my.....
But they afford it coz there's alot of members tat pay to them to compensate the non paying seller...
And they have a "real" company with staffs...
LYN doesnt have.

Huh??? I thought lelong need at least registration fee for sign up....
BTW, LYN is a free trade platform...

You forget this is first and foremost still a forum about Malaysian lifestyle with a eye on technology.

The admins/mods are doing most of the jobs on volunteer basis, I doubt they are and should bear any responsibility to ANYTHING that happens in trade. They don't need to enforce anything upon us.

Most of the fraud cases comes from our own lapse of judgment, how many times have we seen people banking in money mindlessly because of a deal that was too good to be true?

I think they already done really well with the implementation of trader tags and trade education forum, the only problem we have is the lack of people reading and practicing it until problem happens.

Learn to trade safe yourself, don't hope for others to feed it to you.

Nope no registration fee to sign up, but small fee to verify identity...
But lelong often offers free verify at pcfair but hmm not this time pcfair....

Most common attitude in human is GREED. Fraud and scams usually happens when the human itself are too greed and fall into the trap of the conmen when he/she attracted with the cheap price that conmen offer. Yup, people should do more research and survey before dealing with online trading. If everyone should do so, there wouldn't have scam cases..

GREED of conmen yeah, but sometimes the buyer also isnt too blame, who knows if someone of a safe trader tag may con u right? (not directing to anybody, just an example) anything happens right?

COD COD cod! i cant emphasize more on this subject.COD COD COD.

then test test test! before you buy buy buy.

get the idea?

yeah...but when it's cheap cheap cheap
people will just buy buy buy
forget about cod cod cod
eye pop out out out
bank in money go go go
then regret sob sob sob

Yupp, just like buying from shops there's no real guarantee that u will get what u paid for
How many times have u heard ppl complaining that they came home from a shop just to find out the item they bought wasn't as described, faulty, misinformed or even a used unit?
While they wont give u an empty box after you've paid, it's still basically a con
Just that it's so much easier to fool someone online, that's why u see a lot more of these going on

Yeap, online trading is all about trustworthy. If can't trust the buyer/seller. Don't buy/sell. If involving huge amount of cash flows, it is adviceable to COD instead of using courier service as part of the deal.
GREED is part of everyone therefore the conmen usually attacks this weakness inside us.

This post has been edited by Doomsday: May 4 2007, 08:00 PM

i agree wif TS..but tats too over.bczo some ppl dont like ppl see their ic..well. those who wants to sell things in bulk orders or garage sales..(and ask for full payment) muz provide their copy of IC

wow!! i'm a new member here. and after going thru some of these threads and what's written here... having second and third and fourth thoughts of trading here.

i think selling is more difficult than buying here.

not only online trading, any type of trading also is the same. lol

selling stuff here is hard but once you has built your reputation, you will success (if you don't do anything stupid).

COD? how bout one person in KL another in Sarawak? AirAsia anyone?

Trade = One is willing to pay/buy from Some One who he/she trust for services/goods.

Seller & buyer are resposible To build the TRUST信任 between them.

"All user should validate their identity" is one of the way but no the only way.

Although I dont mind to show my I/C, I afraid once one look at the IC one will fall in love with me .( Just Joking , LOL )

In reality either online or offline, There will always be CONMAN .
Trust me if u read news from Newpaper, Online, TV & radio

Most of the people are greedy, just dont Let Your GREED get control over u.

So i cannot COD totally unless U guy stay in MIRI ( With AirAsia, I still cannot Fly so do u). My ONLY COD is with biatche & intune.

So i take this opportunity to thx those who had trust me & willing to TRADE with me.

And Wish that all conman r willing to be back to settle thier case & be less of them in LYF.

I do not mind to share my detail if u r willing to read


This post has been edited by peacenik: Jun 14 2007, 01:54 PM