I feel a very deep disappointment with Mazda 3’s frontal collision crashworthiness.

The firewall moved a lot during the crash and severely impacted the occupant.

The survivor’s space is pretty much non existent.

All the pillars are very well intact, but the firewall seems to lack proper reinforcement.

A quick search on the web for Mazda 3’s body structure yields an astonishing result. Popularly known as “SKYACTIV-BODY”, it uses extremely high-tensile steel up to 1,800 MPa. Higher than most carmarkers.

But a glance on the front structure, Mazda’s engineers might have “forgotten” the firewall area. It becomes one of the weakest points in the car’s structure.







Judging by the overall car’s deformation, this might not be a high speed collision. At most, it could be just around 60-70km/h.

I have been planning to get a CX-3 since last year. This triggers an extreme caution on my part.

Check Kobe Steal.

Damn. The dashboard can come out like that and hit the driver

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jan 28 2018, 06:57 AM

shitty preve bankrupted proton

that's not 60-70 km/h

i think you should stop pulling stories out of your ass.

TS thread history suggested that he is here to promote proton

That is too fast

Hello. Well my dad is an Ir special interest in infra designs. Including road safety. First of all he said u csnt compare a collision with a tree or concrete wall with a proper barrier or a car. Totally different . He said one of the worst things to crash into is a freaking tree, second one he can thiknk of freaking concrete wall. I am not sure bout that but he always say if u crash into a tree even volvo also might not survive at high speed.
Anyway looking at the mazda above its a small overlap onto an immovable structure whereas preve seems to collide with something with bigger surface area. Not very fair also. I do acknowledge preve's safety, one of the safest malaysian cars ever. But prever would probably suffer more damage if its a small overlap with a freaking tree trunk

Is that so? Using unfortunate ones to promote something not even sos it. Not even spoiler TS, hope no one or thing comes crying to u, later late at night.

Well, try not to crash into tree then. Drive carefully and not racing like rempit. Safety begin with own attitude,

poi~

The dashboard.. moved so much

Wtf, post like this also someone report?

Probably slept or drunk driving at high speed

well maybe because the tree is narrower than the body of the car. so imagine slamming it into a pointed triangle compared to a wall where the force will be distributed more evenly... my 2 cents

anyway ts u must be damn expert to judge the car was just traveling at 70kmh...u were there is it??

Drive recklessly even u drive a tank also u die

bro who the heck said 70. In fact my whole article was to dismiss TS who said it was 70. Read bro read

Theoretically speaking, for an object to pierce through into Preve’s occupant cabin from oncoming direction, it has to go through 3,000 MPa of steel tensile strength.

remind me of iriz



This post has been edited by croydon: Jan 28 2018, 08:01 AM

even porsche slam onto the tree at high speed also die la.
tree always wins

Luckily it’s a Mazda, if Maivee confirm oredi left 2 doors.

syukur the pole can be uprooted.

damn it was my fault. bugger not the best to reply to messages while detailing my car. I sincerely apologise. and now I wanna curse TS

that impact...
would say, the driver were driving quite fast!!
roughly... 120-140km/h

Basic physics of force measurement, and you will know why a tree is a more dangerous thing to collide on.

Yeap... hitting a tree is definitely bad because all the forced can't be distributed even across the crumple done. The true strength lies in the car chassis beam. If you hit neither of those, it's just like hitting tin milo regardless of the steel being used.

Hitting a man made erected pole is different. These are only 1-2 feet planted into the ground. It would just uproot if enough force is applied.

was waiting for sometime to make a pun but since there no one starts
"Mazda Tree"

we are cool

tree always win
or at least a draw

Which part in the car is this? Sorry i noob kereta

Sohai humans expext the car to be in acceptable condition after a strong impact

Should be grateful you are still alive

the tree hit directly in line with the steering column
so the toughness of the car structure won't avoid that kind of impact
unless the car manufacturer design steering that can move to the side on direct impact

Poor tree.
Mcb Mazda driver

Tree will always win over car, no matter what kind of car that is.

more like 70 MP/H to me

ppl seems to forget that ancap, ncap or any other lancap rating is made at 60 km/h, any other speed higher itll be fatal for u anyway

People here die2 protect mazda, its weak point in that car just see the TS diagram picture.
Just admit their failed it, same goes to driver.
Tree 1 mazda 0

i can tell u 1 thing that is proven again and again
no car in history can win against a tree
no one has won before yet

Proton salesman got quota to hit this month is it

unless a freaking tiger tank. they used to bring doen trees in world war 2 using tanks

In such situation, 1+1 doesn't equal to 2. It does not mean two such 1500mpa structure able to absorb up 3000mpa force. Anything more than 1500mpa able to punch through both structure.

TS is smarter then mazda engineers

thats why proton bankrupted

Bodoh ts nih

Kalau tengok dari keaddan hentaman, kelauan kereta tersebut adalah melebihi 100km/h...

Wah..TS must be working with NCAP to know the speed before collison 60-70km/h based on naked eye.

Mazda < tree

If Mazda crash like that someone said 70 all angry

If Proton crash like that someone said 70 all agree..

No.1.... crash tests are at around 60 70 kmh.
no.2.... That crash doesn't look like the car drived at normal speed.
No.3... Nothing can really survived when crash into a tree like this.

question is.. how the hell he can ram the tree if driving 60/70km/h? i dont think the car handling is tat bad especially in a mazda..

4got about the jepun fake steel scandal?

105percent agree with you.

Only tank can survive collision witg tree la..aigoo..

Tree crash worthiness evolution 10000000 years.

Car crash worthiness evolution 410 years.

It will take a loooooong time for car to be safer than a tree.

Can pretty much confirm it was going very fast.

I know ppl driving an old Proton crash into a tree like that still can survive and walk out.

He had all seeing truth eyes.

Tree always win.
So dont be KNN hit a tree.

hahahahahah fukken win

Next time LANCAP need to test crash not only for pedestrian, solid wall, small overlap, but trees as well.

Im doubt it is 60-70km/h.

I believe preve can survive in this kinda crash.

Preve > all Japs cars!!!!!

history shows that most dont survive a crash with a tree

so dun drive like a cibai and fuck with a tree

Even porshe cannot win against tree. RIP Pauk Walker

meanwhile proton sales died without hitting any tree..

suddenly so many ktards become expert on car chassis

He didn't mention a single word about proton, u all assume he wanna promote proton.

Impossible, if u observe the front pillars, it wasn't bent at all.

It is therefore not far fetched to believe at the time of impact, its speed is a bit higher than typical crash test speed of 64 km/h. At 120-140km/h, the damage would definitely be more devastating than this.

This revealed Mazda's weak point, the firewall merely had steel strength of 270 MPa. Crashing into a thin object like tree, the possibility of cabin intrusion would be higher, as this accident exactly did that.

huh,? his 2nd and 4th post already giving preve references. what u toking

3/10

TS trying really hard. Gotta give him 3 for effort.

topkek thats why there's small overlap crash test for iihs, really weird that the front beam is made out of very strong steel and the firewall is not. Completely different concept to what proton and volvo is using. Or is this a new concept, maybe the boron steel front beam was supposed to even out force onto a larger area, proton did forgo the firewall boron steel for the iriz but did place more uhss evenly troughout.

Proton preve has boron steel on the firewall.

This post has been edited by xxhunter: Jan 28 2018, 11:32 AM

What other cars have weak firewalls?

Myvi Coupé vs Mazda Tree

Tree? Even the safest lorry from Volvo also lose la. Nothing can defend u against a tree. Best is not to drive too fast on roads with many trees.

If u want additional safety, may need to build a roll cage surrounding your entire car. That way, the roll cage should absorb most of the primary impact first.

wow...no sign of brake at all. must be more than 100kmh.

i once hit the tree with my ford focus at around 80-90kmh.similar almost situation.. survive with some bruise. car totalled lost

Here a test by Fifth Gear back in 2014 using a Renault Laguna with Euro NCAP 5 star.

At 55mph (or 89kmh), passengers can survive with minor injuries.



In the Mazda case, I believe it is more than 89kmh.

Geely smart a bit liao. Use cybertroopers to discredit other brands, then on 2nd post show comparison to proton cars lol

Drivers fault nak blame kereta and pokok pula

confirm 120km/h++. air bag melekat kat muka tu

what number

Any car vs tree on front collision oso die la ts ...gtr vs tree oso KO ...if youre average /k that can afford <200k car dont talk about versus tree ...u need millions to buy a tank

This post has been edited by yeezai: Jan 28 2018, 02:57 PM

Should make cars made of wood next time.

But later use lousy chip wood also.

fuu, mabuk?

Happened in ipoh...that road very straight muz be over 100km/h confom

oh, now i notice. jalan sultan nazrin shah.

yea, dem straight the road. the only reason must be mabuk.

But its daytime already still mabuk? Another factor probably slippery road after raining...the road surface looks wet to me

where ah? issit tiger lane
Nearlee

yea, that road. the one you that can see the enclave from the side.

sup duppey. V2?

PROTON CAR ACCIDENT - COMPILATION REAL WORLD CRASH, Preve, Suprima, Iriz, Persona (2nd Gen)

yea, road condition + speeding more probable i guess.

wo wo...just sleepy head only

+ wimmenz

sakit cinta or blowjob driving?

Mazda 3 was speeding at 200KM/h.
Whereas, Preve was speeding at 20KM/h.

InB4 Preve fans make up KNN story.

wow
hows the experience when the moment u hit the tree?
u straight blackout or what?

wow ts now main report report. cannot say about proton wan.