read the terms you will noticed there is no mentioned of guaranteed returns upon expiry of 12 months except the Co gives u the right to transfer to a third party. This means u r stuck with the arissto machines you invested and no way out.

To those who have invested, may I check with you on the followings?

1) When the company gave the payout every 3 mth, did they give a breakdown of how each of your coffee machine performed? That is, how many capsules were consumed/sold thru machine 1, 2, 3 etc for the past 3 mth?

2) Based on the last 2 payout, does your yearly return work out to be EXACTLY 15% or 20% (depending on your contract), no more no less?

3) Did you encounter situation where the company cannot find customer for your machine? Did they refund you based on the agreement?

Thank you!

is worth to sign up for the RM1 rental coffee machine, not worth to signup to be a ipartner.

there is a few item u miss out.

1- The machine warranty is only 5yrs. after that ,each machine u have to pay rm30+- for annual maintenance fee.
2- This most likely to be a one way ticket, you buy and own the machine, after 5yrs nobody want to buy a non warranty unit with standard price. U have to trade off your 2nd hand unit only u can get back your money.
3- The license until now still very sufficient ,everyone still get new license
4- 2nd hand coffee machine no value due to no warranty and have to pay maintenance fees.
5- This is not Money game cos they dont have up down line, only 1 time incentive for active member, sales.

If you want to invest the Plan is like this.
1. you have to wait 5yrs to get your money return[they borrow your money 5yrs and pay u back slowly]20% each yr.
2. then after they return 100% your money , they reduce your payment to 15% cos u have to pay back maintenance fees after 5yrs.
3. profit start after the 6th yrs .

the cycle is complete and will work, just slow.

Thanks for your sharing. Does it mean that you can see the capsule sales for each day when you login? If you include the license fee, does your return work out to be 15% yearly or may be just slightly more?

How long can the machine last? Likely to breakdown and need to write off before you could fully recover your investment.

Warranty and maintenance is two different things. sure china made machine could last longer than 5 years?

does the investors has to buy new machines if after 5 years the machines became unusable/cannot be repaired?

Not worth la the pay back period is so long...

Is it stated in the contract that replacement machine will be given free?

yes, the sale of the capsule will be affected, but so is the income of new investors...if the replacement of the machines are given free...it will "dilute" their income
and also the income of that company.

Thanks for the referral suggestion...will have to really weight in after clearing all the doubts.

I think most probably not.....I once observed a Nescafe coffee machine....the hole of the tray to insert the capsule are custom made to the capsule size.

skl097....any idea?

when it is not in the contract.....then maybe that is why your referrer did not tell you?
if the selling point is good..must mention it..right?
YES,...good for the customer that must consume a limited number of capsule per month?
NO, not good for the earlier investors that are still holding on to the unused machines?


but again, maybe thru these "RENT for a Ringgit" campaign, those unused machines can have a chance to be utilized?

Looks like you are not the only investor that are getting payout which will eventually worked out be a little bit better than the promised return. With no breakdown and other details, I am afraid it is not possible to ascertain if your machines actually performed better (or worse). If this continues and you decide to quit the programme when it reaches 1 yr because it is taking too long to get back the amount you invested, how much are you able to get back?

from the contract...

The iPartner shall be entitled to:
1. Purchase up to 30 units of ARISSTO Coffee Machines (‘the Coffee Machines’) at a special dealer offer price of RM799.00 per unit (“Dealer Offer Price”) from the Company [“the said Entitlement”].
The said Entitlement shall be valid for a period of one (1) year only from the date herein stated.
.........

Under the Arissto Coffee Plan, the iPartner shall solely at the option of the iPartner be further entitled to:
1. Loan any or up to 30 units of the Coffee Machines to the Company Customers. The Company undertakes to the iPartner that each of the Company Customers will purchase a minimum of 60 Arissto Coffee Capsules per month (“Minimum Purchase Target”).

the entitlement is for 1 year....
the loan of machines to company customer is ONLY entitled to 1 year....after that is you makan sendiri?

also the warranty is subjected to ......
"Free maintenance and warranty for a period of 5 years for the 30 units of Coffee Machines subject to the other terms and conditions of the manufacturer’s warranty....."
which may excludes many non free replacement spare parts....just like some handphone batteries is only 3 months as in the fine print.

since you are an investor of ipartner....isn't it more advantage and convenient for you to get clarification from the company on some of the queiries posted?

all the best to you....

yes,..just ensure the written term are met......
if everything goes according to written which if also perceived to be true and as intended,....(without extra fine print and misintrepretations)
i estimated can get at least 10.6% pa for the 1st 5 yrs, then abt 8.3% pa forever after that 5 yrs for an investment of RM 6550

btw,..how long have you invested in it?

Actually, I find it hard to understand why all the investors that I came across so far have been getting payouts that will eventually worked out to be just a little bit better than the promised return. I mean by nature human have different preferences, it is only normal that the capsules consumption on different machines are different and there will be up or down over time. If it had been the case that the consumption was below the promised return and the company topped it up for you, then the more they should show you the breakdown to prove that they indeed make good their promise to you.

Showing the breakdown of the capsule consumption on each machine will allow you to monitor the performance and request the company to take action to improve the capsule sales for you so that your investment will continue to grow instead of being stuck with the fixed return. Is this not what most investors are hoping for? Btw, does the company share what is the projected growth of capsule sales for the next 5 yr for example, the size of the market and what is their share currently?

Any form of investment carries some risk and at certain point in time one may have to exit if the condition is not favourable to continue which is why I am interested to know how much you can get back after 1 yr if you decided not to continue.

I got my 2nd payout on 30th Aug. Glad that the investment is not a con job and more people are aware and investing in the scheme. Good luck to all the investors