i think i can chip in a little here and there to enhance clarity of it.
subscription fees is also known as licence fees, it "may" appreciate (i feel like this is a gimmick), in order for you to own the machines, you must have this "licence", each licence is able to house 30 machines. and the licence is transferable. what makes this so special is that, the company will only issue 20,000 licences in total, not more than that (we don't know) if this will be true.
so you can still get the money back.
was informed that this programme is in its 8th month now. the licence was RM2600 at the beginning of the programme, now appreciates until RM2800 and they say might go up to 3k before slowing down.
was also informed that the machines price will also appreciates (it was RM650 per machine last time and then 750 and after SST will be 799).
gross returns:
15% if you invest in 5 machines + 1 licence
20% if you invest in 10 machines (or more) + 1 licence
let's do some simple math, taking current situation
licence 2800, machine 750
Scenario A (5 machines)
Licence 2,800
Machines 3,750
Total invested 6,550
gross returns 15% on machines = 562.50 per annum
effective interest = 8.59%
Scenario B (10 machines)
Licence 2,800
Machines 7,500
Total invested 10,300
gross returns 15% on machines = 1,500 per annum
effective interest = 14.56%
yeah, this is only based on a 60 capsules min. what if they consume more?? i think they should list down the performance of each machine (so investors can track).
my company recently took 2 machines and put in the pantry, i was told that they order 20 boxes monthly, i wonder whose machine is that, sure untung already like that.
not only that, also informed by arissto that they are working on making the machine to cater for making tea, soya, other healthy drinks etc. so the market share might grow (my opinion).
as above.
in addition, not sure where you guys get the RM30 per machine per month maintenance fees from.
i was told it will cost RM2 per machine per month for maintenance, so each machine will cost about 24 a year.
My take on this plan:
1. the machine was originally sold at RM1580, which i feel absurb
2. they can workout the plan to lease it at only RM1.00 with warranty and service, maintenance all in covered, so i concluded that the machine is actually very cheap to make, which renders the worry after 5 years redundant.
3. they are going on volume game because no way they can make money on the machine, they can only make money from the capsules, the more they sell, the more they make.
additional observation:
1. many of my colleagues used to buy expensive coffee (starbucks, coffee bean, san fran etc) on daily basis, like one cuppa a day, now they also slow down and start drinking on this capsule coffee (which i think the coffee is not bad too).
2. with my own observation that many have switched from handcrafted coffee to capsule coffee, coupled with the new "tea, soya, etc" series, the market for them to grow is pretty huge though.
what do you think?
Sounds, smells, looks like a scam.