thanks for responding...appreciate your helps in clearing some doubt...
please advise concerns as in post 126 and 129

and also this machine breakdown (leaking, motherboard) coverage by the company...is it forever FREE or just for under the warranty period?
is there any charges for the workmanship/labour cost of repairs and how long does it takes to attend to repairs complaint?

do you have a repair service response policy benchmark statement in place in your company?

(heard that, from a Penang former agent)...the repair response is ###k too slow...until the husband had to ###k the receiver of the phone (according to the husband....it take weeks to attend to a repair that if, if ###ked almost daily)

because that is what i heard...may not be constuded to be true are are continuing to be happening.......thus i asked about the repair service response policy statement....

but there had been confirmed by others that the subscription fees of RM 2650 is non refundable .
btw has this RM2620 been increased?

What is it for?.....for the company to tue down an investor n to make more profits?
I thought agreement got mention can sell coffee machines...there is no mention can sell subscription fees...please tell where in the agreement got mention can sell subscription fees to other?
If and when one can sell that subsciption...must pay how many % to the company?
Why would others want to buy from you when they can buy from the company directly

this is from your PM message.....
but never seems to be able to provides the info I asked.....

"My phone numbers
01x xxx xxxxx

We every Monday will a class at NEP = New Environment Products ( Diamond Coral Water, Arissto coffee is under them )

Tonight I'm going, will reach around 8pm

NEP Holdings ( Malaysia ) Behead.
xxxxx.
xxxxxxxx
Taman Serdang Perdana,
43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor."

so today is Monday,...you will go there tonite to get the answers for us?

from previous posted info by other forummers...
post 44, page 3

the guaranteed return they offer:

scenario A
Subscription 1 - RM2800
Coffee Machine - RM3750 (RM750 x 5 units)
promised return = 15% pa on RM3750
Return is at least RM562.50 per annum and is distributable on quarterly basis

how many capsule does it need to sell per year to get RM 562 returns?.
(a rough estimates of RM 8500 per year or (2833 capsules x RM3 ea)
this 2833 capsules per year is based on 5 machines, thus if based on per machine = 566 capsules per year
thus 566/12 = 47 capsules per month consumption per machine....
(a user of that machines would have to consume 47 capsule per month x RM3 ea = RM 141 of coffee per month.)

but if using current price & including the RM2650 subcription fee would be RM799 X 5 units = Rm 2650 + Rm 3995 = RM 6645 (this is the number that "should be" used in calculation based on actual ROI calculation)
the RM562 returns from an initial investment of RM6645 would be abt 8.5%

...possibililty or maybe, just maybe...
being in business for 3 yrs...accumulated many coffee machine contracts...then lease out as RM1 per month excluding the RM2 maintenance charges (the contract holders are paying for it)
with the RM1 machine plan, the user just need to buy RM21.60 per month (or just 10 capsule).....instead of the
"....The Company undertakes to the iPartner that each of the Company Customers will purchase a minimum of 60 Arissto Coffee Capsules per month (“Minimum Purchase Target”). as per link in post 77, page 4
i wonder how is the sustainability of the scheme would be later on...

just thinking...may not be Arissto's model....selling over price products then slowly returns to % earned to them?
just like i heard before...a gold investment scheme charging high spread, but them slowly returns some % as time passes by...until closed..

post 87 page 5....
"the entitlement is for 1 year....
the loan of machines to company customer is ONLY entitled to 1 year....after that is you makan sendiri?"

also post 44, page 4...there is no breakdown of usage per machine...thus the would be buyer of your contract does not know the per machine usage...

welcome to that club of investors....  :thumbsup:

YEs,...Welcome to that club too.....

just a note of caution....
have some back up plan in case your relationship with your relatives, family members/friends that bought your machines that you are selling to them...turned sours

paih-sey, paih-sey....
actually, i don't know one-lah...i just copy and paste those info that had been posted by other forummers earlier....
all i do, is read and try to understand all previous postings and try to get the logic and hopefully the wisdom to see the differences...without impartiality that also suited my appetite.

no credit cards can join this rent at RM1 scheme?
actually i am now on 2 in 1 coffee.....few years back was on 3 in 1
you know lah...no sugar better

Isn't homemade drip coffee the best? I have my drip coffee every morning. Kopi o kosong 


The only hassle is the dripping part but it has become a daily routine.

Yes, Mr. Coffee Connoisseur. 

why there is a big RM 100 different?
care to elaborate the RM1 plan got VIP and non VIP membership....what are the differences?

why there is a big RM 100 different?
care to elaborate the RM1 plan got VIP and non VIP membership....what are the differences?

logically getting to rent a machine at RM1 with a commitment to drink 10 capsules per month is sensible.
RM299 is the deposit for the machine so is RM399....am i right?
why want to charge RM100 extra for non CC?
so those that uses CC card maybe subjected to other charges (if applicable later)?

the RM299/RM399 deposit will be refunded immediately upon returns of the coffee machine or have to wait for months?
looking at the repair attention track records.......what are the chances of "late" refund?

I trusted the previous forummers that tested it.
I want to make myself prepared for all possible answers and unmentioned conditions before I go try it.

don't you remember a friend of mine was an agent, thus he should have some leftover.....

yes, my friend has more than enough to stuck up your fxxk up into your ass too...I am sure the coffee would work wonder to you too.

don't use vulgar words ...your mother did not tell you? what a shame....

Does this come with any contract? 10 capsule of coffee + coffee machine RM 1