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guybrushg	Dec 19 2009, 02:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	guys, just found out this forum selling shinanju, preorder one. go and have a look. http://www.jbtalks.cc/thread-709714-1-1.html
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guybrushg	Dec 20 2009, 08:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	The plane = oo raiser RM15 or Rm18, The gundam = oo fighter Gn-0000 RM20(hongli terms). Go pasar malam, may be you can get more discount<==== hints. Today I bough add on for oo fighter in bandai shop RM45. @That susanowa is original bandai, tthongli dont have susanowa. Sorry, the XN-Raiser sell at newspaper stand is RM30, i think you bought that expensive lieu.
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guybrushg	Jan 14 2010, 08:30 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(Parody @ Jan 14 2010, 05:06 PM) Who's the manufacturer for that kit? The quality looks... the side face inside out already!!
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guybrushg	Jan 30 2010, 01:42 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	my gundam shipment just arrive!! gonna busy for a while!! Attached thumbnail(s)
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guybrushg	Feb 3 2010, 01:57 AM Return to original view \| Post #5
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(loon_923 @ Feb 2 2010, 06:54 PM) bro, where u buy those gundam from? online order? can give me info? i wan buy oso. http://www.jbtalks.cc/thread-709714-1-1.html good luck and happy fixing
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guybrushg	Feb 5 2010, 06:29 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(seikofarlim @ Feb 5 2010, 04:48 AM) Jetpeh, zaku mg016 now got in perak lane book shop. Just arrive today. where is the shop located? KL or Ipoh?? Added on February 5, 2010, 8:36 pm QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Feb 5 2010, 06:25 PM) Anyone has any experience dealing with the seller in jbtalk? i do, i just received my shinanju model. This post has been edited by guybrushg: Feb 5 2010, 08:36 PM
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guybrushg	Feb 8 2010, 07:38 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(Jetpeh @ Feb 8 2010, 02:56 PM) Anyone buy from the jbtalks seller sukoni before? Need to know if it is secure or not. so far i bought from sukoni once la, at least i got what i need with good price. (Sinanju i meant) But need to wait for a while since the shipment come from china.
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guybrushg	Mar 13 2010, 06:58 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	removed This post has been edited by guybrushg: Mar 13 2010, 08:52 PM
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guybrushg	Mar 16 2010, 10:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Mar 16 2010, 09:41 PM) is SD Gundam also get pirated?? is does, what the lowest price i can get?? Yes, SD gundam also got TT Hongli and GHD. Cheapest so far i found is RM10.
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guybrushg	Mar 17 2010, 08:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Mar 17 2010, 02:40 PM) RM10 for so damn cheap can list some SD Gundam pirate... easier to find if i know as long as it come out from B, sooner or later pirated will got
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guybrushg	Mar 19 2010, 10:05 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	heard from sukoni my gundam had arrived!! hurray!! bought zaku MG and Shin Musha this time.
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guybrushg	Apr 4 2010, 03:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Apr 4 2010, 03:53 PM) he mean unlimited stock lol... what stock they carried, mind to share??
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guybrushg	Apr 5 2010, 04:47 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	saw them selling Shinaju at comicshop at cheras leisure mall, first fall(next to arcade park) selling at RM298 (less 20%) Beside they also carried Unicorn Ver. KA, Gundam 00 Exia type B and cherudim type D, GHD model, Gao Gao Gundam RX-78 version 2, NG gundam 00 with light, lots of Sango Gundam SD, HG of Gundam 00 series and some HG gundam SEEDs.
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guybrushg	Apr 5 2010, 04:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Apr 5 2010, 04:49 PM) Aiyoo bootleg also already RM 298 ka? but i bought mine through Jb talks for RM 89, RM 49 for Zaku ver. 2.0 and RM 65 for Shin musha.
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guybrushg	Apr 5 2010, 07:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #15
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Apr 5 2010, 05:01 PM) So it's RM 89 or RM 298? For bootleg MG Sinanju that is. And Jb talks u mentioned, is the shop located in KL? jb talks i bought through internet, they dun have shop, i order through seller and they will order from china. RM298 is the price they sell in KL. RM298 - 20% = RM238.
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guybrushg	Apr 5 2010, 11:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #16
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(zieraq @ Apr 5 2010, 07:56 PM) Jbtalks is chinese forum right? how a malay guy like me can have an access? can u help order? just tell what gundam u looking for, then i can help u to order. The $$$ thing you got to do it yourself. i can translate for u. no problem. 1 malaysia! Malaysia boleh!! This post has been edited by guybrushg: Apr 5 2010, 11:47 PM
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guybrushg	Apr 7 2010, 12:24 AM Return to original view \| Post #17
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(zieraq @ Apr 6 2010, 10:35 AM) Bro I need clarification from u. The sinanju u said earlier they sell rm238 is the selling price in KL right? but u said later u bought thru internet at rm89. Which 1 is the right one? rm 238 or 89? Is it: buy from shop in KL = rm298 (discount 20% = 238) buy thru online jb talks = rm89 plz clarify... yes, your assumption is correct!
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guybrushg	May 2 2010, 08:23 AM Return to original view \| Post #18
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	what had you guys hunted from jia yang??
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guybrushg	May 13 2010, 09:15 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(ra2zy @ May 13 2010, 03:23 PM) u can check with Takumikun, he got TT hongli PG wing for sale... his one in PG MKII, not Wing
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guybrushg	Jun 21 2010, 08:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(Parody @ Jun 20 2010, 07:10 PM) Here is my not-so-detailed review of my first TT Hongli kit, MG Shin Musha Sengoku No Jin. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Before i start, there one thing that you should know: TT Hongli kits' quality are very inconsistent. Their quality control is very poor. What may be almost perfect in a box of Musha may be a near disaster in another box of Musha. It depends on luck on which one you'll get. Or if you're a believer of karma, you better start doing good deeds before you get yourself a TT Hongli kit. This review will be based on what i got from TT Hongli. In the review, i use TT to represent the knockoff China model kit and BD to represent the original Japan model kit from Bandai. So, here we go: THE BOX ITSELF The box itself, both size and appearance, looks like its BD counterpart except that: 1) the colors appear faded (lighter than the original one). 2) all the BD logos on the box are replaced by TT logos. 3) all Japanese wordings have been translated into Chinese and English. I wish i could include a picture of the box here, but the box i got was too crumpled that i actually took it apart and threw it away already. But the box doesn't matter, right? What's important is the inside. If we're talking about girls, then both inside and outside matters! INSIDE THE BOX The assembly manual looks exactly the same as the original one except that: 1) the pages with colors appear faded (lighter than BD's). 2) the BD logo on the bottom right of the front page is replaced by the TT logo. 3) all Japanese wordings have been translated into Chinese and English. TT goes a step further to include a list of used parts on each assembly step at the top e.g. Head Assembly: A4(x1), A6(x1), B3(x2), C22(x2). BD manuals don't have this feature. The packaging is of lower quality than the original. The plastic wrapper used is thinner, the seal is weaker, and they tend to put a lot of runners into one plastic wrapper, sometimes up to 5 runners. BD usually puts 2 runners in one wrapper. OUT OF THE BOX Here, i'll just mention what problems i've encountered with this TT kit. If it's not mentioned, the quality is on par with BD. PROBLEM #1 - Once you open the plastic wrappers, the first thing you notice is the smell of paint. It was as if you went to a car workshop to collect your newly painted car. It has a very strong odour. I had to leave it in the open for a day or two before starting assembly. Otherwise, i might just get nosebleed from the toxic fumes. And do not, i repeat, DO NOT lick or eat with your fingers after handling the runners. You might just get poisoning. Make sure you wash your hands thoroughly before you do so. Upon inspection of the runners, i notice that some (about 2-3) parts have already fallen off the runners, but this doesn't seem to be a major problem. PROBLEM #2 - There is also the problem of color inconsistencies due to improper color mixing methods. About 20% of the runners suffer from this. Like the picture above, you can see a slight pattern on the surface. The color appears different even on the same part. Although it's not noticeable from afar, it's a sign of inferior quality that requires mention. I also encountered oily surfaces in some of the runners. Not sure where does the oil come from. Perhaps from the paint? Perhaps they were trying to achieve a glossy finish? Who knows? REMEDY #2 - Use of a flat topcoat might make it less noticeable. Otherwise, paint will do just fine. PROBLEM #2.5 - Color inconsistency is very obvious in the plated runners. The gold plating sometimes fade into silver with a slight yellow tinge. The plating parts are also prone to scratches and the reflective surface makes the scars even more obvious (which relates to the next problem). PROBLEM #3 - The parts also have uneven surfaces, like small bumps or craters, mainly caused by the plastic moulding process or impurities within the paint. The uneven surface is highly noticeable if it's a glossy kit but on matte colors, it's only apparent if light reflects on it. As you can see from the picture above, you can see the part is having pimple problems. Because of the moulding problem, about 40% of all the male joints have problem fitting into the female joints. Either it's too tight or too loose. REMEDY #3 - If the surface is uneven, sanding would help, but only if you intend to paint it after that. Otherwise it'll leave ugly scrathes on the surface instead. If the peg is too tight i just sand it smaller, and if it's too loose i just use super glue and let them stick together forever. PROBLEM #4 - Another problem is caused by incorrect drying methods that result in curved runners, directly affecting the small pieces of parts as well. About 25% of the runners are curved. If the parts are slightly curved, it will have problems fitting in correctly. REMEDY #4 - I just forcefully bend the parts back to its normal shape, carefully avoiding snapping it. ASSEMBLED Here is the kit itself, front and back view. Here are two pieces that don't fit together nicely, leaving a small gap between the assembled parts. One side is either smaller or shorter than the other. Of course, filling the gap with putty will easily solve this problem. Some pieces are moulded wrongly. The moulded shape is not accurate, leaving small gaps between connecting parts, as you can see from the picture below. The right side of the armor does not have this problem, although it's not clearly seen in the picture. Again, filling the gap with putty will solve this problem but would require a bit more work to mould it into the desired shape. Another issue with moulding inaccuracy i've encountered is with the shotgun and the small peg in the palms. The small palm peg is supposed to fit nicely into the shotgun's handle but i find it impossible to do so with the TT version. The BD kit does NOT have this problem. For the TT kit, I had to rely on the strength of the fingers alone to hold the shotgun. This is a major problem because, the finger joints are not that tight to begin with. This TT kit comes with both dry decals and peel off stickers, like BD. The peel off stickers are not sticky at all and they tend to fall off easily. The dry decals could stick but most of the time, the decals don't apply nicely. Some parts will stick on the kit while some parts will be left on the decal sheet. It's very annoying. So, i didn't apply most of them. The main reason anyone is getting the Shin Musha Sengoku No Jin version is because of the dragon and phoenix backdrop they provided. Here is a shot of the backdrop. I don't have the BD version to compare but i believe this TT version to be about 80-90% similar, but less shiny and reflective. This picture was taken with flash. Here are the action poses. Any pose that BD can do, the TT can do it as well. The kneeling gimmick is also available but it is a bit too tight to implement. I nearly broke my nail trying to push the pelvic joints to the front. Weapons could be stored at the back like in the pciture. The samurai pose could be reproduced. The hands have problems holding the javelin and spear but as far as i know, the BD version also has this kind of problem. CONCLUSION This is the moment you've all been waiting for. The pros and cons as compared to the original BD kit: PROS Price is more than 50% cheaper. Plastic quality is about 80-90%. Honestly, I feel the plastic is harder to break compared to Kotobukiya's model kits. Completed kit's appearance is almost 100%. If you paint it nicely, i'm sure most people can't tell if it's a TT or BD. Construction manual is in Chinese and English, rather than Japanese which most of us don't understand. Articulation and poseability is 100% (unless there's some major moulding error, which is quite rare). CONS Most of the colors are inconsistent. Most of the surface are uneven and sometimes even has an oily feel to it. Some of the runners are curved (which leads to the next problem). Half of the parts have problem fitting in nicely. Almost every joint (from the PC runner) is very weak. Limbs and fingers tend to fall off like dead flies. Almost useless stickers and dry decals. POST SCRIPT By doing this review, i am in no way supporting or promoting piracy. I am merely providing the general public with a view on the quality of a TT model kit. If you have got the cash, it is ALWAYS better to get the original kit from BD. Thanks for reading until the end. Cheers. And happy modelling! luckily i bought the normal edition,it comes with water decal and colour of the kit is ok..
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