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post May 18 2007, 10:04 AM

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It works without having to adjust any settings which worked just fine with defaults.

You can tweak the upload speed if you want, just refer to the screenshots.

30 kbps minimum i suggest for 1mbps streamyx.
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post May 18 2007, 08:57 PM

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I recommend using routers that have qos. You can then prioritise http so you can surf biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2007, 09:41 AM

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Ok this is from my own observation.

When i downloaded Death Note from an international site i got like 170 kbps.

But when i try download local lately it is 10-20 kbps..

I SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT LOCAL THROTTLING ! Those of us who are not using Xunlei cannot upload a decent speed, so for those of us who using Xunlei can download normal, what the person uploads is little, so thats why you see the speed is now like 10-20 kbps .... which is still better than the 5-10 kbps ......

Can seeders please start using Xunlei or something to test this out biggrin.gif ?

Ps: can Xunlei seed ? i never used it for that purpose before, BUT !!! if you use Xunlei you will notice that your internet usage is saturated so kinda hard to surf at the same time harhar.
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post May 21 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(arturo_bandini @ May 20 2007, 11:20 PM)
i think maybe we are misunderstanding something here...

xunlei aims to offer better speed by faking its headers, to make they seem to come from "innocent" software such as internet explorer, etc. by doing this, tmnet's throttle mechanism let those packets pass without any slowdown in speed.

now that i think about it... only torrent packets SENT BY A XUNLEI CLIENT will pass tmnet's throttle mechanism. if u use xunlei to download a torrent, but all the seeders of that torrent use utorrent or anything else, then their packets (sent to you) will still be slowed down by tmnet. on the other hand, the packets that you send to other leechers will be faked as an internet explorer packet (etc) and will not be slowed down.

the bottom point is: using xunlei (only) increases our upload speed, since packets we send out will be faked as something else to fool tmnet's throttle mechanism. to get good download speed, we should encourage more and more people to use xunlei.

i'm not a torrent protocol expert, so if i'm wrong, somebody please correct me...


Added on May 20, 2007, 11:24 pmif my theory is correct, this is why those who download stuff from chinese trackers get high speeds - perhaps a lot of those chinese seeders use xunlei...

on the other hand, if u use xunlei to download a local malaysian torrent, unless ur lucky that many of the seeders use xunlei, u'll only get very low speeds. many malaysian seeders use utorrent, etc., and the packets they send to u will still be throttled by tmnet...
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I stated this theory earlier hmm.gif

Because i noticed when download an international torrent the speed i got 170 kbps maxed.

But when i tried to download from our local Malaysian torrent MYT it was slow. ( this wasn't the case UNTIL they started throttling local torrents as well....)

That is how i came to the conclusion why the different results ? Maybe cause the seeder ( uploader ) overseas is not throttled so when we download from them with Xunlei is fast doh.gif

Anyone can confirm this flex.gif
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post May 23 2007, 08:41 PM

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i used Xunlei yesterday and downloaded heroes episode 23 and got 170 kbps ! The torrent was from demonoid so this was an international source.

What is bitspirit/bit comet nat traversal ? Is that the encryption like in azureus and utorrent ? I heard tmnut has torrent shapping hardware that can even find torrent traffic through encryptions..... that is why even when turn on encryption it is still throttled...
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post May 25 2007, 07:58 PM

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Thanks Slash. Your Kira !!!

When you get time could you do me a favor and transalate the seed option :] Need to not seed >-<; i can't afford to seed all the time after can't dota.
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post May 25 2007, 11:28 PM

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If you go the top options you will see a drop down called language. Even in the chinese version it says languages. You select the en ini over there >->;
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post May 27 2007, 09:49 AM

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Just a question but how do you port forward for Xunlei ?

Which tcp and udp port should be forwarded :{
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post May 27 2007, 12:59 PM

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Kitsuna - I've attached some of my settings.


Ports Xunlei is using * i think
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My Router's Portforwarding settings * i have tested hosting Dota and it works.
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My Router's Qos settings
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Is this correct or not :[ i don't really understand.

And is port triggering better for torrenting ? shocking.gif

Another thing is do i need to specify http into my Qos in order for it to have priority over torrent or is this defaulted o_O;




Please use this emulator for the router and screenshot me the settings i should configure it to, if possible icon_question.gif

http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/dir655/login.html



PS: i've tested how secure my router is over at GRC using Shields Up. this are my results :]

http://www.grc.com/default.htm

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post May 27 2007, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE
Welcome to the µTorrent Port Checker.
A test will be performed on your computer to check if the specified port is opened.

Checking port 50505 on 219.94.xxx.xxx...

OK! Port 50505 is open and accepting connections.

You will be able to receive incoming BitTorrent connections.


Thank you Kitsuna sensei. If i was a girl i'd marry you :]


Zigger to remove the ads you need to use the ADLESS XUNLEI CLIENT !!! Ayu made it doh.gif In this thread is the link for the program.

The download link they posted wasn't very good so SeliparJepun from MYT had reuploaded it here.

http://www.mytforum.net/index.php?showtopic=7497&st=100



So before you install, uninstall the original Xunlei Thunder, then install this. it installs to another Xunlei directory doh.gif not same as the original. Ayu also included a tool to modify something i don't know what cause i don't know Chinese.

I am currently using Ayu's modified adless Xunlei thunder client with the English transalation file posted here :]
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post May 27 2007, 08:32 PM

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It's still gibberish, but if you browse the xunlei settings at the top you will notice a language option pulldown. Select the En that will be newly listed there...

Neo - Np. just helping the community flex.gif boleh land ftw.

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post May 28 2007, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 27 2007, 11:35 PM)
hahaha
so many unresolved issues
better go for utorrent la
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Are you nuts ? I also prefer Utorrent since it's lite weight and got alot of features, BUT when it comes to downloading, download speed is all that matters, doesn't matter how.

Xunlei does all that.

If you can't live with the ads or the chinese just get the fixed for them listed in this thread, it's really no big deal icon_rolleyes.gif


Anyway i was downloading Starcraft 2 gameplay preview from MYT here

http://www.mytforum.net/index.php?showtopic=8402


And i got like 170 kbps.


So that shoots down my theory seeders in Malaysia are gimped.

I suspect the seeder was using VPN so on his end it wasn't throttled, or he was using some torrent client that was being throttled hmm.gif curious.
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post May 30 2007, 03:48 PM

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I was downloading the Starcraft 2 Demo trailer at Myt the other day and got 175 kbps o_O;

I am now baffled why xunlei sometimes fast sometimes slow ... i was using the same ip address on other torrents as well =_=;
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post May 30 2007, 04:17 PM

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Mojo but what if the torrent say has 2 files, but you selected to download 1. Do you get full speed that way ?

Can help me check please, as i am not at home.
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post May 30 2007, 05:34 PM

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Can people over at mytforum.net start seeding only 1 file ? I want to test if this is a usual occurence.

That starcraft 2 demo i downloaded fast also was just 1 item in the torrent. I find this eeirie to know but i have to check to be sure doh.gif
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post May 31 2007, 11:55 AM

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Just wanted to report that i've opted out to a service like Amavant's.

However i will still be using Xunlei from time to time to see whether i can get the occasional 170 kbps torrent download :] *wink
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post May 31 2007, 12:05 PM

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Download and install CFOSSpeed. It's a traffic shapper for your pc. The default settings prioritise http ( for browsing ). So you can play games, download and surf at the same time without your game latency getting high or your web surfing getting slow.

They have 2 modes. Favour ping, and favour bandwidth. Select ping when gaming, and bandwidth when your only downloading.

I am using a D-Link DIR-655 with QOS configurations in conjunction with cfosspeed.

Oh and in addition, limit your torrent upload speed to 80 % of your actual maximum upload speed. I got a 1 MB Streamyx so i set mine to 40 kbps since i notice when it's unlimited it uploads as high as 60 kbps. Torrent downloads is slow if your upload is low, however if your uploading your maximum capacity, your download will start to suffer. The reason why it's recommended you set to 80 % of total upload.

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post May 31 2007, 12:57 PM

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It doesn't work in a day sleep.gif; it will auto caliberate over time.

Download something and play cs. set the cfosspeed to favour ping.

No need to adjust anything else doh.gif i left mine default except i turned on the firewall feature.

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post May 31 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 31 2007, 01:11 PM)
o...i din play game...so i juz disable the ping n favour bw rite?


Correct. No need to disable. You only can select either favour ping or bandwidth :] Only one of them can be chosen to work at a time.


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1more thing...if enable firewall...will it decrease the speed?
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As for this i am not sure. I just enable it and portforward flex.gif


Actually there are other tweaks you can do to make your torrenting faster.

You need to increase the tcp connections your pc can do.

If your using Windows XP, you can easily increase your tcp connection limit using vvlords script.

If your using windows vista, it is much harder to increase tcp connection limit, but it can be done. Refer to my disabling vista tcp auto tunning thread.

Ps: i found that vista tcp auto tunning kept disconnecting most of my applications ( browser, games ) from staying connected online. The fix was to disable it. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 31 2007, 06:29 PM

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www.portforward.com

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