bought this DSLR last week, but hv no time to post any pics.

But, now..here are some of the pics by me









i crop this pic


C&C are most welcome, so that i can improve

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 30 2007, 06:59 PM

Nice photos

Using kitlens?

I like your bokeh, the colours are so vivid too!

to DSLR and the photographer behind.

Another macro lover....

I don't think so..look at the DOP.

Very sharp & rich in color pics!!!

Yeap, were u using kitlens ? If yes, mind sharing the setting that u used ? Since, they look great =)

Keep on shooting and sharing =D

thanks...i'm using kitlens

thanks to u too..


i actually love potrait too...but have to find ppl...hahaha

i'm using kitlens actually

thanks to u too

ya..using kit lens...all the pics above are using M mode. the first 2 pics are ISO 100, while others will be ISO 200 or ISO 400 depends on the lighthing. for the aperture, all are f5.6 cos i'm using 50mm

looks great lar bro...

didnt go out anywhere...so hv to take flower pic in my house again





C&C pls

Can kitlens take so sharp & vivid pics???

Did you do any editing???

This post has been edited by chrisoys: May 1 2007, 08:15 PM

yupe.

i just do a bit of color level and contrast...if u want, i can post the original without editing here.

Hey man, its time to go out and shoot.... your new lens need some fresh air.

Hey there, can i know which DSLR you are using?

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Added on May 2, 2007, 9:07 amBtw i think you did a great job shooting and editing the pictures, it's not too much, very natural

This post has been edited by simmytan: May 2 2007, 09:07 AM

ya..waiting for this coming weekend

thanks, i'm using 400D.

For the macro shots, since you weren't using any macro lens, did you reverse the lens before shooting them?

wait...i dont even know how to reverse the lens...and what is the meaning of reverse the lens...care to explain more...sorry cos i'm a noob

Its best learn to take good pics rather than using software editing. Using software editing the pics you will not learn or improve using DSLR, then why get DSLR better get PNS camera right.

I feel that now a day many photographers using heavy editing on the pics. Its not skills using DSLR but they become a grafik designers liao

No offence ya. Me also not pro in photography but feel this is not the way to learn taking nice pics.

Anyway, all your pics are nicely taken

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Added on May 2, 2007, 11:57 amReverse the lens???

How??? Never heard of it before

This post has been edited by chrisoys: May 2 2007, 11:57 AM

U using 50mm prime lens izzit ??

sorry...i means 18-50mm kit lens...but most of the pic i took zoom till 50mm

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Added on May 2, 2007, 2:23 pmit is very common for a digital photographer to edit the pic, no matter using DSLR or PNS...and i think it become a must, since a DSLR cannot produce nice color like the film SLR has produced no matter how hard u try to take or using high-end lens... this is also why the DLSR or PNS keep upgrading, to have a better sensor and etc

a graphic designer is not editing pic like the way the normal photographer did. And as long as the photographer didnt over edit the pic...i think it is accepted. But of course learn to take nice pic so important, but it must cum with a little bit of editing skill.

anyway i'll post my original pic here when i go back

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 2 2007, 02:23 PM

What's wrong with photo editting? DSLR is meant for editting, that's why RAW come to place.

If u wan nice JPEG output without editting, PnS and prosumer is sufficient.

No matter how u change, composition is still there, so i dun see why by editting pics cannot improve ur skills.

Levels, curves, color balance and etc. just a method to bring out the color. Even photo printing shop also doing that before they print ur photo and u thought the photo from the film is not editted?

Just my 2 cents.

Nice pics anyway.

There's a reverse lens tutorial for Canon cameras about how you turn your kit lens into a macro lens without having to spend money on macro lens, the tutorial is here (original from larajade.com)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/simmy-tan/lara.jpg

This post has been edited by simmytan: May 2 2007, 04:53 PM

thanks for the link, and thanks for the explanation...will try it out...but i wonder will my lens ''hurt'' if i do like this

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Added on May 2, 2007, 6:43 pmfor chrisoys
this is one of the original pic (without editing or resize, i just upload it originally)among the pics that i have posted above...

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=481181765&size=l

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 2 2007, 06:44 PM

Jien don't get offenced OK.

I just expressing my opinion when I look at the pics

From the pics I got to see some editing was done that why to double comfirm I ask you whether got or not loh. I was right about it & the pics are not the ori taken from the camera.

No need to show or proof me about pics. Cool bro

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Added on May 2, 2007, 8:13 pmDSRL meant for editing??? You must be kidding me

It show, you not really know how to use your DSLR.

Hmmm......then I think I need to spend more time on PC editing my pics to be nice, dumb dumb me got get DSLR wasted my money

This post has been edited by chrisoys: May 2 2007, 08:14 PM

hei jian.
Thanks for sharing some shots with the 400D.
Been eyeing that model for quite sometime but I have not seen its product yet. =)

Yes, and if not what the purpose of RAW? Purposely like the file big?

Well, my words on DSLR might be wrong there.

O'RLY? How u came to this conclusion?

Nobody ask u to spend 90% of your time in editting and 10% in photo shooting.
U still need to get right composition and exposure before u edit it to bring out color.

Try to get an over/under exposure pic and see how u gonna edit it.

This isn't meant every ppl also need to edit but that photography editting in today world is very common and won't block u to improve or cheat ppl watever..


Sorry for TS for disturbing ur thread

the thing is you and chris are arguing without common agreement on what's the basis of this editing.

IMO it's perfectly fine to edit. cameras have limitations, so do we. RAW gives you more flexibility when it comes to editing.

BUT if people spend too much time to edit, or trying to make shit into gold - then what's the point?

the point of photography is to take as nice a shot as possible, with only minor to NO editing at all.

lol...dont worry chrisoys...

i know u r not offencing me....the reason i put the original pic here is to show u, i got no other meaning too just want to show u that i actually didnt edit much on the pic.

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Added on May 2, 2007, 10:14 pmwell..it is a nice model. and i didnt regret to get it...

but i can c some of the forumers here take nice pic with a D40 or using slightly lower standard DSLR compare to 400D...but of course, some of them own it, but the pic is not that stuning...so my conclusion is, it actually depends on the photographer. and get the DSLR that u think u want the most

i get 400D cos it give me almost everything that i need ( none of the DSLR is perfect IMO ). i dont like D40 or D40X as we need to buy the lens which come with autofocus, and i think is a bit troubelsome for me, i didnt chose 350D as it is just a few hundred cheaper than 400D...so i go for 400D which can serve me better .i didnt get the DSLR which has higher standard than 400D as they are out of my budget ..hehehehe

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 2 2007, 10:14 PM

my shots on KLCC Petronas Twin Tower were taken with kit lens too.

yes, they can take nice pictures.

frankly speaking...

i have a kit lens, and a L lens 17-40mm (not mine), but i can use this L lens for few months, as the owner do not need it at the moment. I try both of the lens taking the same shot...suprisingly, kit lens perform very well..almost has the same details that capture by L lens. I actually cant c much different, seriously.

the conclusion is, never under estimate the kit lens, although i know that alot of ppl claim that kit lens is nothing, and many of them sold it out.

oh ya..all the pics that i posted above taken by me are using kit lens NOT L lens, although i hv L lens at the moment

some people think that they are so high class that look down on photo editing, it is so pity to hear that.

Yes, taking photo you need to have good basic skills, you need to have good composition, framing, setting....there is no doubt, if you take picture with wrong exposure, the whole pic gone, might be too dark or pic comes out blur, so no matter how good your photoshop editing skills, still dead...

when you can get do good framing and know better how to take pictures, why not learn up some editing skills? like a pretty girl also need to make up right?

when you holding a Digital Camera, no matter compact or DSLR, you are doing photoshop, believe? when your camera outputing jpeg for you, it already done "saturation, contrast, sharpness..." where you set in your camera, and somemore noise reduction on long exposure....haha, if only you are using film camera, you can say you are clean from editing.

taking pictures is something that delight you, as long as it gives you the feel, why not? why we want to frame ourself inside the small pond?

No one here are looking down on ppls that do photo editing.

Just giving opinion about it not to do photo editing & concentrate more on how to take nice pics. If everyone can rely on photo editing than I am sure everyone here can become a pro photographers

You can set the saturation, contrast, sharpness & color tone in your DSLR & also custom the WB before you take a pic. This required knowledge, experience & skill in using it.

Well i belive u made the point there..

i couldn't agree more with cityfish, i dont know why ppl makes such a big deal about retouching photographs, we just have to move on,

like most photographers/photo manipulators said, 80% from original photographs, that includes lighting and composition, 20% would be retouching the imprefection

A model shoot...and i only has 1, others, turn out not nice. i actually didnt plan to have model shoot in KLCC...i accidentally met this fashion show, and try to have some shoot..then have to rush back to Penang on the same day ..will try to shoot more, if penang has any fashion show lol...


C&C pls..first time have this kind of shoot..hehehe

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Added on May 3, 2007, 9:18 pmBut b4 i manage to catch the bus back to Penang...i have this shoot...without tripod so, have to use ISO 1600 anyway, a bit senget

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Added on May 5, 2007, 1:26 pmwindow pic

C&C pls





This post has been edited by jian.see: May 5 2007, 01:26 PM

wow ~ really nice ! mind to share out the ISO, aperture for the photo ? eheh

I more pity on those that knows photo editting and little else.


Then you should belong to the 'high class' group then, you mentioned it yourself on the first statement. Know photo editting but lousy photography, am I right?


As time goes buy, as you pick up your photographic skill, you will need less time on the computer fiddling with your editting software, different from make-up. As time goes by, girls will turn into old women and gradually depend more and more on make-up in order to conceal what TIME and AGE is slowly doing to her. Dun compare make-up with photo editting, it's two different world.


Brother, there are still manupulations that can be done on FILM i.e exposure compensation, ISO pushes, etc. Digital photography is digital photography, Photoshp belongs to Adobe, dun mix everything together and confuse others especially newbies. Please dun mention all this in photo forums or else you will become a laughing stock, the more you say the more WRONG you're becoming. Please stick to digital photography where you're picking up on. Take it easy.


You are a goldfish ... you can never survive the sea

@cityfish

there are various manipulation techniques in film photography from what ac said to darkroom techniques. exposure,highlights,contrast,etc can be manipulated in the darkroom though not as easy and convenient.

@ac

i really dont believe they'll be less editing the more u shoot. i guess it all depends on a photographer's workflow. ansel adams is a legend but he spent plenty of time in his darkroom. camera's have limitations and editing is needed i guess. my camera is crappy with it's red rendition, always oversaturating it no matter how much i fiddle with the settings, so editing later saves me time in some ways .

of course, photography basics are needed.

p.s:goldfish is pretty funny

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Added on May 6, 2007, 2:14 pm@jian

i like your style. keep it up.

This post has been edited by clemong_888: May 6 2007, 02:14 PM

firstly, i want to apologize to Jian.See that i am using here to express personal thought.... my reply to ac98 will goes to my folder.

Jian. See, i like your fashion series, looked sharp and good lighting.

the windows do give me feel, and here shows the good things on editing(i should not call Photoshop as people might sensitive. )
with the little wordings, the picture comes out with different feel. Jian see maybe you can put the original pic here to show how is the difference.

And the wordings really shows the match!!
the 1st window with no bar, the word says "lost of the time"
when the second one with the bar on, "can the time be hold?"

Very good! if can, maybe you can think to put 2 windows on the same row on the same layer, might be a good contrast! just my suggestion, i am not "high class", i am also learning....

thanks...

just like normal

for the windows shoot

ISO 100
f5.6
1/125s
and i adjust all the contrast and saturation to the highest point to get more vivid color

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Added on May 7, 2007, 8:54 pmthanks, but i'm not going to post the original pic over here, cos i think the forumers here maybe a bit sensitive... well...i have to admit that the window series i add more green to the first pic and more red to the second pic to get different feeling ( while for other pics that i have posted here, i didnt do that)...it is impossible for me to try very hard to adjust the histogram in my digicam, as i just walk past and so happen with the camera on my hand, so i just snap. Dont ask me to stand under the hot sun for more than 15 mins..and adjust this and adjust that to get the right color that i want (except for the aperture, ISO and speed ). I'll only do that, when i'm well prepare, and i arrange my time, purposely go for photo hunting for the certain hours or day.

but, i really dont understand y alot of the forumers here are so sensitive on editing .....they should have take note on the situation of the photographer

oh ya citifish...i'm neither attacking u nor make comment judging from yr post....i just tumpang, and add some of my personal view when i post this to thank you for making comment on my pic:)

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 7 2007, 08:56 PM

I like your captions. From the flowers to the windows, your captions really give a different feel to your pictures

Hope to see more from you!

Jian's u really got art talent !!! really salute u .....

thanks guy...

another series :D...comments pls

very very hard to take these kind of pics and i dont really like them, will try again next time..and pks teach me how to take this kind of pic, very hard to focus la...

jian....
the 1st one the ring of the water blur abit... the 2nd one nicer.. keep it up.. hehe

EDIT: u using macro lens?

This post has been edited by milky: May 10 2007, 07:16 PM

The bottom of the container is too shallow-lar ... deeper abit baru shiok

Hehe.. no choice, have to use manual focus. be patience and u'll get the desired results!!

oh use manual focus...i use auto focus

faster shutter speed as well.. preferably, use alot of lighting

yes, use manual focus. lock on the subjects. wait for the water. open fire. hahaha...400D got 3fps . but it good enough

jian, thou you are just starting but you got talent, and you have very nice artistic sense, some photographers are seriously lacking those. really can't wait to see more pictures from you. Yours gallery offer something different than what i normally see here.

i like your window shots ! great stuffs !

@jian
u doin tis water drop @ basin is it?

This post has been edited by milky: May 11 2007, 07:30 PM

yupe..i use f1.8 iso 800 or 400, and the shutter speed around 1/200 and the thungsten light, cos i want it to be blue hehehe....they say must use manual focus so i'll try next time..i'm not satisfy with the result that i have posted above

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 11 2007, 07:47 PM

yes, use manual focus easier to lock the splash point, since u can 'agak-agak' where the splash point will be after a few drops... if u use built-in flash, ur manual metering will set at 1/200 max, with ISO400, then try play with f4 to f8 for personal preference..

thanks for the guide

i try more shoot today, with deeper water...but still...haiz..hard to take nice pic

do i improve from the first version?? pls say yes







This post has been edited by jian.see: May 12 2007, 07:21 PM

Nice shots! Keep the photos coming!

Btw, I think you used the wrong word for you caption... You meant 纯净 right?

is it..paiseh...my chinese not good

The second droplets series looked nicer and sharper

You may want to invest on macro lens if you like this theme...

thanks

do u think by using the macro filter will do??

hahaha so fast kena poison by close up filter ...

Ps : it's not call macro filter..since it's only closer not macro...

Yes. A cheap solution for macro shots, you may check on my gallery with a +4 Close Up. But...hehehe to be frank, there is no way to come close to the macro lens, you may check on Ahleong gallery on that.

there is a way to get nicer "macro shots" if you don't have a macro lens without spending anything. i've tried with my 50mm and the result is in my thread

did you mean lens reversing? or is there any other method? Mind sharing?

yeps as discussed in another thread as well

Ok...Langkawi trip now...

sadly....it was raining everyday...no beach pic .....

but this is the only 1, actually it was dizziling when i take this pic


porto malai...the only pic with nice sky , take in the early morining b4 it start to rain again


pregnant lake...
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This post has been edited by jian.see: May 20 2007, 08:09 PM

nice..shot

round sand

The color a bit.... too saturate....

hi jian.see,
there are few was to take "macro" shots
first using a close up filter, they come in diff flavours +1, +2, +3, +4,.. +10
if u have a 50mm lens, u can invert the lens and it becomes a magnifier... although it works, but metering, etc hav to be set manually
u might wanna check out extension tubes by kenko. the lower ur lens mm, the better the magnification effect

my method of taking macro shots is by using my tele with a +4 filter and hitting it 200mm u can check out some samples i took on my thread.

thanks for yr info.



This post has been edited by jian.see: May 24 2007, 08:08 PM

c&c pls

Nice... Interesting words and pictures...
Like can put in Student Magazine to teach student...

What editting software you use yeah ?
Nice pic

adobe photoshop

This post has been edited by jian.see: May 25 2007, 07:07 AM

Love your pictures..very colour saturated
the round sand is made by crabs right?

The leave series very nice color and good composition...

the 1st pic, flash too strong...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/5042553...ca2d2116f_o.jpg

i like this one the most, love the composition and the contrast between the orange and the overall blue background

thanks
yupe it is due to the crab

thanks
errmm..i didnt use flash for the first pic

thanks, will post more pics soon

Oppss... sorry, since i saw reflections on the leaves so i tot it was being flashed...

RED Series...:D..C&C are most welcome
all the pics are taken with the kit lens or the 50mm f1.8

Some of the pictures look a bit underexposed. Cactus field is nice.

I like the one with the insect. How close was the camera?

wah... the pics very very warm...
something dosen't feel that rite IMHO

It's personal preference, I like it

how close... dunno wo...the closet i can get by kit lens and the 50mm prime lens

too red until cannot see the petals already..

wah. all very nice. nicely captured

haha~ goot title which draw me in ! red red ya ~ i tot what red wor....

very RED !!!!

tooooo saturated for your red series until details have been lost.

I can feel like CNY coming....

Thanks for the comment guys...will try harder next time..hehehe.

recently i take some potrait pic..will post it here later