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 e34 vs W124, Torn between the two classics

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post Jan 12 2018, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 12 2018, 10:31 AM)
All,

need your advise..

Want to get a (obviously) 2nd or 3rd hand either BMW e35 or Merc W124

Objective to achive..

1. Continental Classic which can daily driven
2. Still heaps of potong kereta spare part source
3. not expecting cheap Saga maintenance but also not make me bengkrapt
4. Car will be a 2nd car only use to office (20km one way) but very2 jam situation.. so an Auto is a must.
5. Still worth going for Valet parking (just pushing my luck)..

Variant to look at:

1. Must be 6 cylinder (If can)
2. Auto
3. Cheaper body repair/remake.

So what it will be?
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W124, coz it's more highly regarded as a classic and seems to be more bullet proof. Personally I think it looks better too, more muscular and autocratic! laugh.gif
Best is to go for the 300CE or 300E but expensive road tax unless you can get classic car status.
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post Jan 12 2018, 01:17 PM

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This one seems nice and cheap if really 300E:
https://www.mudah.my/1995+Mercedes+Benz+300...A+-62383555.htm

This one says got classic car status but price is damn high!
https://www.mudah.my/1995+Or+older+Mercedes...A+-60623556.htm
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post Jan 12 2018, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jan 12 2018, 02:08 PM)
Thanks for the all feedback, not so much about Benz dude.. but willing to learn haha..

W124 230E is the most common, any issues with the L4 engine?
W124 260/280E a bit rare, but good condition to start with  abit difficult to find.
W124 300E/CE couln't be bother as most of the car in the market expensive to start with..

How to apply classic road tax status ya?
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230E is L4, you said you want L6. Anyway it's underpowered.
260E is actually a lot on sale, a lot more than 300E/CE. 280E maybe a bit rare.
300E/300CE or even E320 Masterpiece are the best! Here in MY got no E320 MP but in Indonesia got many and they are damn nice! If Malaysia road tax is not this dumb, I would have gotten myself either a 300CE 24v or the E320 MP for my daily driver.

No idea how to apply classic car status, you need to check in JPJ website I guess.
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post Jan 12 2018, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(kingston5 @ Jan 12 2018, 04:00 PM)
Having owned both the W124 (E220)  and E32 (735i,  which is closely related to the E34 build quality wise,  except for the the engine) For durability wise, definitely the W124 is the more superior car, as the components of the W124 are more solid and the plastics hold together much better than the BMW's.

Engine wise, if you're looking for a reliable model, I would say the 260E is the engine to go for as, it's more mechanically sound compared to the later muti-valve E220 and E280, as they have those bio degradable engine harnesses, which is super expensive to repair, same goes for the throttle body wire which is wrapped in the same material.

Spares for the 124 can be sourced easily as well since, they still have support for 3rd party parts shop, around KL and PJ. If you need a specific part, halfcuts can be sourced easily from Hong Kong or Japan. BMW is a little harder unless you're talking about the 3 series.

Driving wise the W124 is a big old school  cruiser, whereas the BMW's driving dynamics is just a class above it, in every area. Comfort wise the W124 is definitely more comfortable than the BMW, but older german cars still ride better than most new cars today.

To apply classic, firstly the car must be 25 years old, then you must first have 2 cars registered under your name, excluding the 3rd car. The engine, chassis and interior must be original in order to qualify for classic and get that 80% road tax. Every 3 years the car must be sent back to JPJ and do inspection.

Hope this helps!
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So if you refurbish the interior, for example rewrap the seats, door panels, and steering with new materials then cannot qualify anymore? Coz most of the time the original leather has all gone bad already by now.
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post Jan 13 2018, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 13 2018, 02:37 AM)
bro the first link is custom CE with 4 door tongue.gif extra door cheaper tongue.gif
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Hahaha yeah, some people just don't know what they're thinking when posting ads. That's why I said if it's a genuine 300E, not 300CE.

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post Jan 13 2018, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jan 12 2018, 10:06 PM)
Get the w124, you won't regret it. My dad gifted me one and been using it more then my myvi. Thinking of converting into a 2jz in the very future.

Anyway if you're around kl area I recommend going to the workshop called Merz. Prices might not be the lowest but totally worth it.

Edit. Left you a photo to appreciate the beauty of it
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Don't change it to 2JZ la, still maintain using Merc engine but change to the 3.0ltr 24v and keep it as original as possible.
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post Jan 13 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(kingston5 @ Jan 13 2018, 12:51 AM)
Looks pretty good.

The black engine known as the M103 I6 is a very reliable unit but also prone to oil leaks around  the gasket area. Oil,  plugs and coil make sure it's been changed, service records, the usual stuff.

Check make sure it doesn't leak. One unique thing about the 124 is that the carpet which comes with a sponge like material underneath can be removed on the driver and passenger side. Make sure those aren't wet as, some cars tend to rust near battery tray area (due to lead acid batteries) or the drains tend to get close to clogged by leaves, thus causing the water to enter the cabin and cause rust.

Interior build quality is really solid for a 25 year old car. But do check if the electronics are working, lights, air con, tyre wear, exhaust leaks, cold and warm startups.

Good luck hunting for the last great Benz!
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Maybe get this 260E then bore it to 3.0ltr coz they share the same block already, possible? This gets me also thinking now... smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2018, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 13 2018, 06:39 PM)
true, i hate those idiot everyday asking change 1jz, 2jz, rb, sr and bla bla ........ if wanna change, change same manufacturer .....
me still looking K8 engine from mazda for my miata smile.gif
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Well I won't go so far as calling them idiot la! For cars that have not much classic/collector value, then probably still ok but for this W124, I feel should try retain the classical feel and originality of it hence retain using the same brand engine is the best.

 

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