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hi3n5347
post Jan 12 2018, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 11 2018, 09:26 AM)
What is your budget bro? What game are you trying to Run?
Spent additional to upgrade some RGB fans and RGB light strip.

Mine cost me around RM3800
ASUS Prime A320M-K
AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Zotac GTX1060
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If it's about game, i'm not worrying about that cause i dislike triple A games. It's for 3d rendering and i think some RGB fans and light strip doesn't really have any effects on the performance so i'll skip that. Thanks for the advice tho.
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post Jan 12 2018, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 11 2018, 10:30 AM)
i7-7700K is not worth the price. Go for i7-8700K and Asrock Z370 Pro4 or AMD Ryzen 7 1700 and Asus Prime B350M-A.

Kindly take note i7 K series since 6700K requires third party heatsink. Minimum recommended is Coolermaster Hyper 212.
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Ohhh okay, i also saw the list saying that 7700k does not have the fan and i actually see a lot people recommending asus B350. Ryzen is also better for rendering from what my friend said. I might consider ryzen 1700, just worried about after using so long of intel, suddenly change CPU.
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post Jan 12 2018, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(hata_ph @ Jan 11 2018, 12:50 PM)
Go for Ryzen 5 1600 with B350 motherboard. Better performance per RM compare to intel.
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Ryzen 5 1600, hmm. From what i see from the userbenchmark, it seems weaker than Ryzen 7 1700. I also have a question, does overclocking causes overheat problems? Cause what i see, Ryzen 5 1600X is better than Ryzen 7 1700.
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post Jan 12 2018, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 12 2018, 02:42 AM)
Ryzen 5 1600, hmm. From what i see from the userbenchmark, it seems weaker than Ryzen 7 1700. I also have a question, does overclocking causes overheat problems? Cause what i see, Ryzen 5 1600X is better than Ryzen 7 1700.
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For 3D rendering number of cpu cores plays more important role than the cpu frequency.

Overclocking cpu does not cause overheat problem if you have proper cooling system installed.
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post Jan 12 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 12 2018, 01:42 AM)
Ryzen 5 1600, hmm. From what i see from the userbenchmark, it seems weaker than Ryzen 7 1700. I also have a question, does overclocking causes overheat problems? Cause what i see, Ryzen 5 1600X is better than Ryzen 7 1700.
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It depend on your budget. If you got more budget to spare, R7 1700 is better then R5 1600.
All Ryzen CPU are OC-able by default. The X version give you more head room for OC compare to non X. But it also cost more.
Take note, you need B350 or above motherboard to able to OC. Cheaper A320 do not support OC.

For heavy workload that benefit from core instead of clock speed, Ryzen is way more better then Intel, and cheaper too.
hi3n5347
post Jan 12 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jan 12 2018, 02:19 AM)
Hi
For 3D rendering number of cpu cores plays more important role than the cpu frequency.

Overclocking cpu does not cause overheat problem if you have proper cooling system installed.
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Okay thanks for the information ! biggrin.gif
hi3n5347
post Jan 12 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(hata_ph @ Jan 12 2018, 09:45 AM)
It depend on your budget. If you got more budget to spare, R7 1700 is better then R5 1600.
All Ryzen CPU are OC-able by default. The X version give you more head room for OC compare to non X. But it also cost more.
Take note, you need B350 or above motherboard to able to OC. Cheaper A320 do not support OC.

For heavy workload that benefit from core instead of clock speed, Ryzen is way more better then Intel, and cheaper too.
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Okay noted. Only B350 and above only can get OC CPUs' right? I'm gonna rewrite the specs again.
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post Jan 12 2018, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 12 2018, 02:41 PM)
Okay noted. Only B350 and above only can get OC CPUs' right? I'm gonna rewrite the specs again.
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Yes, B350 and above only. If you dun plan to OC, can consider the cheaper A320 motherboard.
hi3n5347
post Jan 13 2018, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(hata_ph @ Jan 12 2018, 03:12 PM)
Yes, B350 and above only. If you dun plan to OC, can consider the cheaper A320 motherboard.
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Okay thanks for the information biggrin.gif How about Z270? Because i'm joining a giveaway for a PC, you guys can join too btw. And it's giving away a Z270 pc. Not sure it's good or not tho. For any who are interested in the giveaway: https://wn.nr/3DpHhm
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post Jan 13 2018, 04:02 AM

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z270 doesnt support coffee lake(8th gen, any processor series starting with 8xxx, eg, 8700k).
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post Jan 13 2018, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 13 2018, 01:28 AM)
Okay thanks for the information biggrin.gif How about Z270? Because i'm joining a giveaway for a PC, you guys can join too btw. And it's giving away a Z270 pc. Not sure it's good or not tho. For any who are interested in the giveaway: https://wn.nr/3DpHhm
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Z270 is an Intel motherboard. You need an Intel CPU for it. If you get it for free then is good for you.
If you have to purchase it, i still believe Ryzen give you more performance per RM.
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post Jan 13 2018, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hevlaska @ Jan 13 2018, 04:02 AM)
z270 doesnt support coffee lake(8th gen, any processor series starting with 8xxx, eg, 8700k).
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Okay thanks for the info. The names so weird, i thought their motherboard looks like a lake or something. Now i know it's the 8th gen.
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post Jan 13 2018, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(hata_ph @ Jan 13 2018, 08:30 AM)
Z270 is an Intel motherboard. You need an Intel CPU for it. If you get it for free then is good for you.
If you have to purchase it, i still believe Ryzen give you more performance per RM.
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Ohh. So 350 can fit Ryzen. But how can i differentiate in the future? Like lower models = intel?
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post Jan 13 2018, 07:05 PM

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8400 is good also right?
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post Jan 13 2018, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 13 2018, 02:37 PM)
Ohh. So 350 can fit Ryzen. But how can i differentiate in the future? Like lower models = intel?
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When building a PC, you choose your CPU first then only decide the motherboard.
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post Jan 15 2018, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(hata_ph @ Jan 13 2018, 07:42 PM)
When building a PC, you choose your CPU first then only decide the motherboard.
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Okay noted. Thanks a lot for you guy's advices biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2018, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(hi3n5347 @ Jan 15 2018, 01:16 AM)
Okay noted. Thanks a lot for you guy's advices biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2018, 08:42 PM

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It’s not a good time to build or heck even purchase a PC now. All intel microprocessors are affected by the hardware design flaw known as meltdown. This cannot be fixed as it’s a hardware level design flaw. Intel can only rely on Microsoft to ‘fix’ this using software patches on the OS kernel. The hardware flaw still remains. Your PC will slow down as a result of applying this patch. The only option you have is to wait for newer generation processors to be released by Intel. This will take some time.
abhipraaya
post Jan 15 2018, 08:43 PM

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It’s not a good time to build or heck even purchase a PC now. All intel microprocessors are affected by the hardware design flaw known as meltdown. This cannot be fixed as it’s a hardware level design flaw. Intel can only rely on Microsoft to ‘fix’ this using software patches on the OS kernel. The hardware flaw still remains. Your PC will slow down as a result of applying this patch. The only option you have is to wait for newer generation processors to be released by Intel. This will take some time.

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