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TSt1231
post Jan 8 2018, 04:23 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi all,

My current battery is showing signs of weakening, only just a bit short of two years - would it considered short? FYI I'm driving a 12 years old Vios, using normal type battery (not maintenance-free) .

Should I go for maintenance-free type? Please give some known good and lasting ones, plus their known market selling price.

Thank you everyone........
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post Jan 8 2018, 04:32 PM

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I used all known Malaysia brand maintenance full and maintenance free. All last no less than more than 2 years, approaching 3 years. Even original battery from Perodua now would be 3 years in 3 months.

Just use any brand as long as no cap ayam, would be OK. I prefer maintenance free so that once installed I can forget about it until showing sign of dying.
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 8 2018, 04:23 PM)
Hi all,

My current battery is showing signs of weakening, only just a bit short of two years - would it considered short? FYI I'm driving a 12 years old Vios, using normal type battery (not maintenance-free) .

Should I go for maintenance-free type? Please give some known good and lasting ones, plus their known market selling price.

Thank you everyone........
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post Jan 8 2018, 04:44 PM

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Normally i used wet battery NS60L. It would last for 3 years ++.. on vios 8 years car.. Previous brand was incoe
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post Jan 8 2018, 07:51 PM

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previous one I used Yokohama lasted 3 years, now this Hitachi ES series maybe lasting slightly less than 2 years.....
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post Jan 8 2018, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(zhiwee0645 @ Jan 8 2018, 04:25 PM)
Amaron! Go for it
Around RM300 got warranty
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https://www.lazada.com.my/amaron-go-ns60l-c....5a434c73folTR6
AMARON GO NS60L - RM250

https://www.lazada.com.my/amaron-hi-life-ns....5a434c73folTR6
AMARON HI-LIFE NS60L (55B24L) - RM350

Are these good deals?

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post Jan 8 2018, 08:08 PM

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another question - if i buy the battery, can just change it by myself?
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post Jan 8 2018, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 8 2018, 08:08 PM)
another question - if i buy the battery, can just change it by myself?
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can bro as long you have the tools..
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post Jan 8 2018, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Jan 8 2018, 09:04 PM)
can bro as long you have the tools..
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any special tools other than those needed to open the battery terminal clamps? I mean do we need to charge it up first?
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post Jan 8 2018, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 8 2018, 11:22 PM)
any special tools other than those needed to open the battery terminal clamps? I mean do we need to charge it up first?
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It's easy and with my last change.. Didn't need to charge up the new battery before install.. Using Amaron now and loving it. Comes with 18 months warranty.. Just follow the instructions as video below. Note, I don't have the terminal pads or spray can at the end to prevent corrosion.. Will try to get those next time. If your battery is completely flat before change, then prepare to re-setup your HU, preset radio stations, clock, etc..



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post Jan 9 2018, 08:07 AM

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thanks. I kept reading Amaron brand which I haven't seen before, is it a new brand? and according to the above lazada links, the warranty is only 12 months, how can you get 18 months?
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 9 2018, 08:07 AM)
thanks. I kept reading Amaron brand which I haven't seen before, is it a new brand? and according to the above lazada links, the warranty is only 12 months, how can you get 18 months?
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It depends on which Amaron model you buy. The Amaron Go batteries have a 12-months warranty, while the Amaron Hi-Life batteries have an 18 months warranty. The Hi-Life is a better battery by spec of course.
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 9 2018, 08:07 AM)
thanks. I kept reading Amaron brand which I haven't seen before, is it a new brand? and according to the above lazada links, the warranty is only 12 months, how can you get 18 months?
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Mine's Amaron Go and got it from a dealer back in December 2016. Tested the battery voltage levels recently via OBD2 port and all's normal. This is a daily driven car (26K km later) and it still cranks very fast, without hesitation.. Previous battery lasted just shy of a year. First time I'm using this brand and hope it lasts till at least next year.. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 10 2018, 07:57 PM

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​Century battery - Lowest RM221. charge u a bit if you want to have delivery + installation. easy
http://www.11street.my/productdetail/centu...r-ns60-55251910


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post Jan 11 2018, 09:35 AM

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post Jan 12 2018, 01:53 PM

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Amaron bro.. my sis suzuki alto last more then 7 years.. the car CBU from india.. and this Amaron brand from India..
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 12 2018, 01:53 PM)
Amaron bro.. my sis suzuki alto last more then 7 years.. the car CBU from india.. and this Amaron brand from India..
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Walao really >7 years?? Some people sold off the car already within that time frame! biggrin.gif Maybe next time I change car I get this battery.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 11 2018, 09:35 AM)
Varta
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 12 2018, 01:53 PM)
Amaron bro.. my sis suzuki alto last more then 7 years.. the car CBU from india.. and this Amaron brand from India..
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MF Battery lasts for 7 years? shocking.gif How? pls share.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 12 2018, 01:59 PM)
Walao really >7 years?? Some people sold off the car already within that time frame!  biggrin.gif  Maybe next time I change car I get this battery.
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Settle loan already.. hehe.. she's using Amaron Go only.. not green color one..
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you should used pananasonic ... if want performance
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 12 2018, 03:30 PM)
Settle loan already.. hehe.. she's using Amaron Go only.. not green color one..
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I think you misunderstood.. We are talking about the battery and the way you worded the last post, was like saying the Amaron battery lasted 7 years in the car.. Guess you were talking about the car.. 7 years no biggie.. Got Volvo and Saga more than 20 years old.. Still in great shape.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 12 2018, 04:00 PM)
I think you misunderstood.. We are talking about the battery and the way you worded the last post, was like saying the Amaron battery lasted 7 years in the car.. Guess you were talking about the car.. 7 years no biggie.. Got Volvo and Saga more than 20 years old.. Still in great shape..  laugh.gif
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yes.. it is last until now the amaron battery.. even tho the loan already settle still the battery haven't change yet.. the car is the same age of its battery..
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if u not believe me, feel free to come and see the car it self..
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post Jan 12 2018, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 12 2018, 06:45 PM)
yes.. it is last until now the amaron battery.. even tho the loan already settle still the battery haven't change yet.. the car is the same age of its battery..
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 12 2018, 06:56 PM)
if u not believe me, feel free to come and see the car it self..
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No lah.. No need for that.. That's really good MF battery life. So CBU with the battery. Was any additional maintenance done on the battery since day one..like take out and charge occasionally? Really first time I've heard of such.. Usually people say between 1 year to 3, maybe 4 years (with careful use and charging) max!!..
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 12 2018, 03:58 PM)
you should used pananasonic ... if want performance
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more on this please......
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post Jan 12 2018, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 11 2018, 09:35 AM)
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wah quite costly la......
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 12 2018, 10:34 PM)
wah quite costly la......
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the last battery can last close to 3 years, up to u to judge worth it or not.

My car is just a myvi.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 12 2018, 02:55 PM)
MF Battery lasts for 7 years?  shocking.gif  How? pls share.
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not surprised, American batteries last as long as well. I had been asking this question since I arrive back home, why Msian batteries lifespan is so much shorter?! sigh!
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 12 2018, 10:34 PM)
wah quite costly la......
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slight difference, but I dont think its costly...check it out here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4436937/all
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 13 2018, 12:18 AM)
not surprised, American batteries last as long as well. I had been asking this question since I arrive back home, why Msian batteries lifespan is so much shorter?! sigh!
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Probably the weather... You know, how heat and batteries don't party..
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 13 2018, 12:44 AM)
Probably the weather... You know, how heat and batteries don't party..
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US is damn hot in summer, and southern states are not as cold as northern,but logically 2-3yrs vs more than 6yrs in US, just doesnt make sense.
The batteries there do have higher CCA, hardly seen in local batteries here, except for the imported ones.

Cold environment is also a battery killer during cold start.

If I had known, would have brought one to test it out here. hahaha
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 12 2018, 07:44 PM)
No lah.. No need for that.. That's really good MF battery life. So CBU with the battery. Was any additional maintenance done on the battery since day one..like take out and charge occasionally? Really first time I've heard of such.. Usually people say between 1 year to 3, maybe 4 years (with careful use and charging) max!!..
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No maintenance required.. as its using by my sister with know nuts about car..

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If brand new car change battery outside SC void waranty ah? My current stock batt is a lousy Furukawa Brand with just a 34B rating..
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 13 2018, 01:18 AM)
US is damn hot in summer, and southern states are not as cold as northern,but logically 2-3yrs vs more than 6yrs in US, just doesnt make sense.
The batteries there do have higher CCA, hardly seen in local batteries here, except for the imported ones.

Cold environment is also a battery killer during cold start.

If I had known, would have brought one to test it out here. hahaha
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The tropics are a different kind of hot.. I get your point though.

QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 14 2018, 05:24 PM)
No maintenance required.. as its using by my sister with know nuts about car..
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Nice.. Here's to hoping my current Amaron also lasts long..

QUOTE(raquinz @ Jan 15 2018, 10:37 AM)
If brand new car change battery outside SC void waranty ah? My current stock batt is a lousy Furukawa Brand with just a 34B rating..
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Nope, it won't.. Just make sure it's rated for the car's requirements or higher. Just don't buy a bigger sized battery than can fit securely in the allocated compartment.
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 13 2018, 01:18 AM)
US is damn hot in summer, and southern states are not as cold as northern,but logically 2-3yrs vs more than 6yrs in US, just doesnt make sense.
The batteries there do have higher CCA, hardly seen in local batteries here, except for the imported ones.

Cold environment is also a battery killer during cold start.

If I had known, would have brought one to test it out here. hahaha
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Yeah my sister's car in Canada also have not changed battery for like 6-7 yrs already! But she said the price of the battery is also much more expensive, like 3x here!
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Wet battery will last longer than MF with proper maintenance. Cheaper too.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 15 2018, 06:13 PM)
Yeah my sister's car in Canada also have not changed battery for like 6-7 yrs already! But she said the price of the battery is also much more expensive, like 3x here!
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About 100-200 dollars, not too bad, for local residence....

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting...harging/battery
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 15 2018, 06:38 PM)
About 100-200 dollars, not too bad, for local residence....

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting...harging/battery
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yeah they said to my sister for around 200 Canadian dollars.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 15 2018, 06:17 PM)
Wet battery will last longer than MF with proper maintenance. Cheaper too.
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Technically, all lead acid batteries are wet. Inside construction basically the same.

Just that so called maintenance free is sealed away from user tampering with it.
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jan 13 2018, 12:19 AM)
slight difference, but I dont think its costly...check it out here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4436937/all
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Thanks bro...

need some help with all those tech jargon, how to decipher the following spec, like, what is B, LS, Ah, CCA, and how should I choose?

55B24LS - 45 Ah, 430 CCA
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jan 15 2018, 09:05 PM)
Technically, all lead acid batteries are wet. Inside construction basically the same.

Just that so called maintenance free is sealed away from user tampering with it.
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Not completely seal, you will notice there is a small hole at the side of the battery (on top). If you turn your battery vertically, the acid will come out.
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QUOTE(ericong77 @ Jan 17 2018, 08:09 AM)
Not completely seal, you will notice there is a small hole at the side of the battery (on top). If you turn your battery vertically, the acid will come out.
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Quite true, for venting out hydrogen during charging. But there are fully sealed type of MF battery that won't spill despite the vent hole.
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My experience are Yokohama is decent, Delkor is also not bad, and Century Marathoner disappointing. Now trying the Century Ultramax, hopefully much better but not sure yet coz have only used for a few months now.
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 17 2018, 07:40 AM)
Thanks bro...

need some help with all those tech jargon, how to decipher the following spec, like, what is B, LS, Ah, CCA, and how should I choose?

55B24LS - 45 Ah, 430 CCA
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How to choose you ask ? Use back the same specs as the one in your car now or manufacturer recommendations.

Anyway I cannot really decipher the early part except that's normally the size, voltage, plates, etc coding
The LS is probably to tell you the terminal orientation, which is left/right to correspond to your car design terminal leads

45Ah is 45 Ah the capacity rating of the battery, i.e it can deliver 45A for 1 hour.. so if you only use 1A, the battery can theoretically last 45 hours
430 CCA is the cold cranking current rating, how much current the battery can deliver in cold weather to start the motor, i.e winter
since the most current drawn is when starting the motor when cold.

Anyway, probably better battery expert lurking around LYN and wait for a reply from them if any.

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Batteries in Malaysia last shorter because of heat.

Higher CCA batteries should last longer.

But one should test their alternator as well, as too high or too low voltage will kill battery

Most batteries (Century, Ameron and Panasonic) are of similar technology. But do to weather and vibration, they typically have shorted lifecycles (1-3 years)

In Canada, where roads are smoother, and weather much colder, their batteries lasts 5-8 years.
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jan 18 2018, 09:24 AM)
How to choose you ask ? Use back the same specs as the one in your car now or manufacturer recommendations.

Anyway I cannot really decipher the early part except that's normally the size, voltage, plates, etc coding
The LS is probably to tell you the terminal orientation, which is left/right to correspond to your car design terminal leads

45Ah is 45 Ah the capacity rating of the battery, i.e it can deliver 45A for 1 hour.. so if you only use 1A, the battery can theoretically last 45 hours
430 CCA is the cold cranking current rating, how much current the battery can deliver in cold weather to start the motor, i.e winter
since the most current drawn is when starting the motor when cold.

Anyway, probably better battery expert lurking around LYN and wait for a reply from them if any.
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So the diff between 46b24 n 55b24 is just the 55b can last longer due to capacity but their rating 45ah/20hr is the same.

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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 6 2018, 11:24 PM)
So the diff between 46b24 n 55b24 is just the 55b can last longer due to capacity but their rating 45ah/20hr is the same.
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I believe the 55B has longer reserve capacity even though the rating 45AH rating is the same.
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mod to move your battery to the boot away from the engine heat.
battery will last longer.

for brand yokohama is very good.
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mod to move your battery to the boot away from the engine heat.
battery will last longer.

for brand yokohama is very good.
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Like mine theres an insulation wrap and external cooling plate at the mounting points of battery at engine bay
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Yes the 55 meant to last longer n for higher usage like amps

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want long lasting...

Amaron....my car previously i owned for 7 years... using amaron when i got the car.. never changed. when i bought the car it already had that battery in it... so the battery is maybe about 7-8 years old.

it only died coz i didnt start the car for 2-3 weeks. if i did i think it would have lasted longer.
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want long lasting...

Amaron....my car previously i owned for 7 years... using amaron when i got the car.. never changed. when i bought the car it already had that battery in it... so the battery is maybe about 7-8 years old.

it only died coz i didnt start the car for 2-3 weeks. if i did i think it would have lasted longer.
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Err.. You use your car multiple times a day as a daily driver? Hard to believe MF lasting that long.
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Err.. You use your car multiple times a day as a daily driver? Hard to believe MF lasting that long.
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no i dont. i only start it up once every 2-3 days for 10 mins.

but for the first 4-5 years of ownership it was a daily driver.... u can search for amaron in this thread and ull see another daily driver using amaron for 7 years.

anyway.. amaron is known for lasting ridiculously long.

they werent kidding with their tag line.

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ May 7 2018, 10:00 PM)
no i dont. i only start it up once every 2-3 days for 10 mins.

but for the first 4-5 years of ownership it was a daily driver.... u can search for amaron in this thread and ull see another daily driver using amaron for 7 years.

anyway.. amaron is known for lasting ridiculously long.

they werent kidding with their tag line.

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I see.. No worries, I'm actually using an Amaron Go battery and it's my first.. Came with 18 months warranty. 17 months and about 34K km later and engine still cranks as if it was just installed. So far so good. Will give it an official seal of approval once it reaches the 3 years mark. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 17 2018, 07:40 AM)
need some help with all those tech jargon, how to decipher the following spec, like, what is B, LS, Ah, CCA, and how should I choose?
55B24LS - 45 Ah, 430 CCA
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If you notice all new battery type (normal non DIN type) will use JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) to replace the 'NS' series. Most of the battery will display the old 'NS' for cross reference.

Battery can be same size but different CCA and capacity. The first 2 digit is battery performance (eg: 55B24R)

Example 55B24R, the first 2 digits, i.e 55 is indication of the battery CCA/ capacity
http://www.baj.or.jp/e/car_battery/car03.html

Conversion chart of NS series battery to JIS. The max power for NS40Z/L is '42'. Normal one is '36' for the same size. Based on the conversion chart it looks like NS40 is lower capacity than NS40Z.
Battery NS to JIS conversion chart.

If you looks at Lazada, there are 2 grades of battery being bearing the same 'NS' code (NS40ZL) but different JIS
Varta NS40ZL with JIS code 34B19L (lower capacity)
Hitachi MFX NS40ZL with JIS code 40B19L (higher capacity)

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I see.. No worries, I'm actually using an Amaron Go battery and it's my first.. Came with 18 months warranty. 17 months and about 34K km later and engine still cranks as if it was just installed. So far so good. Will give it an official seal of approval once it reaches the 3 years mark.  rclxms.gif
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lol... best of luck.

Mine was the Amaron Hi-Life series.
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ayam car battery baru gg.

So Amaron is the best? (RM310)
Got the size for ponton subimak s?
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when your car has turbo and the battery is located right smack next to it, wiser to buy normal, non-MF battery.

If you're lazy about topping up water periodically, why fret when most SC will do that for you at every service?
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Amaron brand seem flooding malaysia market over the years....how many series they carry ?


Korean brand like Delkor, Varta cannot fight ?lol
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All brand i search online only can find maintenance free battery. Looking for old-school type battery NS60 or NS70 - any suggestions pls?

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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 7 2018, 11:37 AM)
Like mine theres an insulation wrap and external cooling plate at the mounting points of battery at engine bay
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Am interested to know what does your external cooling plate look like , please share a picture. Thank you very much.
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Now i am in a dilemma. My Axia will turn 2 yrs in few months time. Its a manual car btw.
It has already 50K plus mileage due to partly doing Grab.
battery still factory original panasonic. I bought a Volt meter, which plugs into the cigratte. So far showing 12.5-12.6V on a cold engine and shows 12.8 after running for a while.

lately saw some white battery dust (dont know the corect term) which i read if there is some..its a sign battery gonna die soon.

should i change for preventive measures? Battery warranty from Perodua definitely out - only 1 yr or 20K . So i will buy from outside because i know P2 will charge Rm200 plus for ori battery.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 1 2018, 05:57 PM)
Now i am in a dilemma. My Axia will turn 2 yrs in few months time. Its a manual car btw.
It has already 50K plus mileage due to partly doing Grab.
battery still factory original panasonic. I bought a Volt meter, which plugs into the cigratte.  So far showing 12.5-12.6V on a cold engine and shows 12.8 after running for a while.

lately saw some white battery dust (dont know the corect term) which i read if there is some..its a sign battery gonna die soon.

should i change for preventive measures? Battery warranty from Perodua definitely out - only 1 yr or 20K . So i will buy from outside because i know P2 will charge Rm200 plus for ori battery.
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If I were you, I'd just change it for peace of mind. The battery will need changing sooner or later. Delaying it causes you anxiety and worry, which cannot be good for health.
If you think a dead battery won't cause much inconvenience, it's ok to delay. But to me, a dead battery will definitely be troublesome and in the haste to replace it, I might actually be spending more money compared to having done my price comparison/research.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 1 2018, 05:57 PM)
Now i am in a dilemma. My Axia will turn 2 yrs in few months time. Its a manual car btw.
It has already 50K plus mileage due to partly doing Grab.
battery still factory original panasonic. I bought a Volt meter, which plugs into the cigratte.  So far showing 12.5-12.6V on a cold engine and shows 12.8 after running for a while.

lately saw some white battery dust (dont know the corect term) which i read if there is some..its a sign battery gonna die soon.

should i change for preventive measures? Battery warranty from Perodua definitely out - only 1 yr or 20K . So i will buy from outside because i know P2 will charge Rm200 plus for ori battery.
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Change. Should read above 13V on a running car. Get Amaron, pretty good and not expensive. If you order online and get free shipping and discount vouchers or discount via credit card then really value.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 4 2018, 09:29 AM)
Change. Should read above 13V on a running car. Get Amaron, pretty good and not expensive. If you order online and get free shipping and discount vouchers or discount via credit card then really value.
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Oops, maybe I didnt mentioned clearly biggrin.gif .
I meant - If my engine is switched off after driving for a while, it slowly drops from above 13V to somewhere around 12.8V.
But if the engine is running then it goes beyond 13V. And its around 13.6V.

Okey noted, I will go online shopping and check out the prices of Amaron biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 4 2018, 09:42 AM)
Oops, maybe I didnt mentioned clearly  biggrin.gif .
I meant - If my engine is switched off after driving for a while, it slowly drops from above 13V to somewhere around 12.8V.
But if the engine is running then it goes beyond 13V. And its around 13.6V.

Okey noted, I will go online shopping and check out the prices of Amaron  biggrin.gif
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When car is running should be 13.7V to 14.7V. I guess you can use your battery for a while more. But its definitely weak.
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Hi, what is the current price for Century 40ZL now? RM185 consider expensive or not? I don't want trade in with old battery. If trade in can get RM170.
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Anyone tried Pinaco battery before? Vietnam brand
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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jan 8 2018, 04:23 PM)
Hi all,

My current battery is showing signs of weakening, only just a bit short of two years - would it considered short? FYI I'm driving a 12 years old Vios, using normal type battery (not maintenance-free) .

Should I go for maintenance-free type? Please give some known good and lasting ones, plus their known market selling price.

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hi all,

my update after 10 months:

I bought Amaron from an online seller, he delivered to my house and assembled for me, after a few months I have a problem-the battery lost power after only 2 months, I called him, he came actually, but later found out that it was my alternator problem. Sent the car to a workshop got it fixed, the battery till now is still good.
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Battery Review

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Battery Model: Century Marathoner (NS40ZL)
Use date 15/9/2016
End date 15/11/2019
Duration 26 months. (2 years plus a bit)

Review still okay.. harder to crank when reaching 26 months above.. need becareful when exceed such duration.

Currently Install
Battery Model : GP Battery ( FGP6-40B19L)
use date 15/11/2019

Review not sure how authentic this battery model .. anyone encounter before??

i purchase at the REVIVE Century battery shop At sunway mentari.
RM200.

For honda city.

hope got feedback from forumer

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Hi...my service centre has advised me that my car battery is now underpower and charging rate is only 75-80%. This advise was made 6 months ago and the same advice was given recently when I sent for service in early December. Looking to the battery, it seems ok during start up but the voltage does not reach the appropriate level when the engine running. Is it time to change as preventive measure? the age of the battery is 2 years 6 months (GS Yuasa batterry)
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Dec 30 2019, 09:14 AM)
Hi...my service centre has advised me that my car battery is now underpower and charging rate is only 75-80%. This advise was made 6 months ago and the same advice was given recently when I sent for service in early December. Looking to the battery, it seems ok during start up but the voltage does not reach the appropriate level when the engine running. Is it time to change as preventive measure? the age of the battery is 2 years 6 months (GS Yuasa batterry)
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Bro., there is insufficient information to make an informed decision. If you are in Melaka area, I would like to try to help you out by testing that battery out further.
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QUOTE(CarrotMilk7517 @ Dec 7 2018, 04:32 PM)
Hi, what is the current price for Century 40ZL now? RM185 consider expensive or not? I don't want trade in with old battery. If trade in can get RM170.
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It is hard for me to say whether it is expensive or otherwise, especially without being able to test out the said battery. I am curious why wouldn't you want to trade-in the old battery ?
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QUOTE(CarrotMilk7517 @ Dec 7 2018, 04:32 PM)
Hi, what is the current price for Century 40ZL now? RM185 consider expensive or not? I don't want trade in with old battery. If trade in can get RM170.
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Century Marathoner or Excel?
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QUOTE(Micheal Brown @ Feb 10 2020, 12:04 PM)
A period of 2 years is actually short for a battery life expectancy. Generally, car batteries can last 3 to 5 years in a normal condition.
My Odyssey PC680 is 2 years old and still works well. It has a limited 2-year full replacement warranty that may be a good choice for you.
You can find out more details at Best Car Battery: Ultimate Buying Guide and Product Reviews
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The more hi tech /electronics in modern cars drains even faster like civic TV, almost evry yr or 1.5 the most, so need to use Amaron high spec type to push thru beyond 1.5yrs
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QUOTE(Elwin2000uk @ Mar 3 2020, 05:58 PM)
would like to share some car battery knowledge. for battery use in malaysia hot weather, battery spec and acid filled in the battery is very important.
For small size battery normally use in all perodua and honda city/jazz, original spec is 38B19L. so that come to hot weather in malaysia may consider higher spec 40B20L, it may last longer and stabilize your car electric perfomance.
for century marathoner NS40L (38B20L) maintenance free battery is normally basic choice for perodua. marathoner max 40B20L for honda city/jazz is the best choice.
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Have to agree with you but every manufacturer's way of giving the performance ranking ie. the "XX"B20L is not standardized, some may have lower no. but using purer ingredient (lead), better technology in manufacturing the frame and right level of acidity to make the battery long lasting. It carries weight but It's not standardized across the industry.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Mar 4 2020, 02:38 PM)
Have to agree with you but every manufacturer's way of giving the performance ranking ie. the "XX"B20L is not standardized, some may have lower no. but using purer ingredient (lead), better technology in manufacturing the frame and right level of acidity to make the battery long lasting. It carries weight but It's not standardized across the industry.
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Interesting comment bro. Since there is no ISO among battery manufacturers themselves, therefore comparisons of batteries from different manufacturers is like comparing apples and oranges and lemons etc etc.


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Hi all, just changed mine to Panasonic brand as i cant find the century and GP shop during this MCO.

Is the brand Panasonic can be use? i cant much information for this brand.

Pls help ayam here.

TQ
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QUOTE(Ghost hunter @ Apr 6 2020, 03:40 PM)
Hi all, just changed mine to Panasonic brand as i cant find the century and GP shop during this MCO.

Is the brand Panasonic can be use? i cant much information for this brand.

Pls help ayam here.

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I believe since you've already changed the battery, what's done is done. Hopefully you got it with a reliable warranty.
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Hi all, Century hybrid ( wet ) any one use before ? NS70
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Hi all, Century hybrid ( wet )  any one use before ? NS70
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Yes, using it atm. Cycled thru 2 Century Hybrid batts (NS70L) since 2015 on 2 cars. If you take care of it, shortest life was 3.5yrs. And that was coz it was on a daily driver that goes long distance very often. Wasn't sure of its life span when I 1st used it, so I self limited its life to 3.5yrs even when it was still cranking engine just fine. Now I just let it in service a long as it can, until it shows any sign of weakening.

But I am not sure how this batt model will perform in your situation/car, as you may not be doing frequent long distance as often as me. As for maintenance, it came "overfilled" from factory. So it will be really maintenance free for 1st year. Starting 2nd year, just top up until the electrolyte touch the filler hole's lower collar, and it will be maintenance-free again for at least another 6mth. Just monitor monthly afterward, but honestly that would be overdoing it. Monitor quarterly would make more sense. Couldn't expect more from this cheap and cheerful batt model..... a hidden gem among the sea of (over-hyped) MF batts. Noticed that sellers mostly focused on MF batts now?
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 4 2020, 05:20 PM)
Yes, using it atm. Cycled thru 2 Century Hybrid batts (NS70L) since 2015 on 2 cars. If you take care of it, shortest life was 3.5yrs. And that was coz it was on a daily driver that goes long distance very often. Wasn't sure of its life span when I 1st used it, so I self limited its life to 3.5yrs even when it was still cranking engine just fine. Now I just let it in service a long as it can, until it shows any sign of weakening.

But I am not sure how this batt model will perform in your situation/car, as you may not be doing frequent long distance as often as me. As for maintenance, it came "overfilled" from factory. So it will be really maintenance free for 1st year. Starting 2nd year, just top up until the electrolyte touch the filler hole's lower collar, and it will be maintenance-free again for at least another 6mth. Just monitor monthly afterward, but honestly that would be overdoing it. Monitor quarterly would make more sense. Couldn't expect more from this cheap and cheerful batt model..... a hidden gem among the sea of (over-hyped) MF batts. Noticed that sellers mostly focused on MF batts now?
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Is varta battery suitable for kancil? The workshop suggested amaron (a bit expensive compare to varta & lasting according to the him) but I’m considering varta. Any suggestions?
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QUOTE(Ghost hunter @ Apr 6 2020, 03:40 PM)
Hi all, just changed mine to Panasonic brand as i cant find the century and GP shop during this MCO.

Is the brand Panasonic can be use? i cant much information for this brand.

Pls help ayam here.

TQ
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My Panasonic lasted 30 months. Even when i changed, that's becoz my wife was delivering soon and i just don't want to take risk. All my other battery lasted 1 or 2 years only, century included.

I changed to amaron because i cant find panasonic.

I dont think you need to worry.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ May 16 2020, 04:42 PM)
My Panasonic lasted 30 months. Even when  i changed, that's becoz my wife was delivering soon and i just don't want to take risk. All my other battery lasted 1 or 2 years only, century included.

I changed to amaron because i cant find panasonic.

I dont think you need to worry.
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since Amaron battery is so popular here , anyone try to fill up using distilled water , after the warranty ended ?

i browse around Youtube and found videos of how to open up amaron top cover to refill with distilled water. its pretty safe by looking at the way they open up , just use Philip screw to open only....and the videos show the battery health increased after filled up with distilled water....

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QUOTE(voncrane @ May 7 2018, 10:12 PM)
I see.. No worries, I'm actually using an Amaron Go battery and it's my first.. Came with 18 months warranty. 17 months and about 34K km later and engine still cranks as if it was just installed. So far so good. Will give it an official seal of approval once it reaches the 3 years mark.  rclxms.gif
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how is ur amaron go battery ? still using it ?


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how is ur amaron go battery ? still using it ?
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Sorry.. switched cars since then. But before I did. no issues still with the same Amaron battery. However, I’m still using Amaron again on current vehicle. Stock battery gave up around the 17th month mark..Was disappointed so got the AMARON Hi-Life DURO T110 (130D31L).
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QUOTE(voncrane @ May 28 2020, 01:37 AM)
Sorry.. switched cars since then. But before I did. no issues still with the same Amaron battery. However, I’m still using Amaron again on current vehicle. Stock battery gave up around the 17th month mark..Was disappointed so got the AMARON Hi-Life DURO T110 (130D31L).
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QUOTE(Ghost hunter @ Apr 6 2020, 03:40 PM)
Hi all, just changed mine to Panasonic brand as i cant find the century and GP shop during this MCO.

Is the brand Panasonic can be use? i cant much information for this brand.

Pls help ayam here.

TQ
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panasonic battery is a reputable brand, the price mark i am getting here is around amaron pricing or maybe higher.. but the downside is very difficult to find..

personally i use amaron hilife on my car and its has been running for 4 years and still good as of last week... bought the ns60 battery at around 260 that time.. i would certainly go for amaron again if its possible.. another car of mine is running varta..still observing how long the battery is going to last... its 18 months and counting..

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Is varta battery suitable for kancil? The workshop suggested amaron (a bit expensive compare to varta & lasting according to the him) but I’m considering varta. Any suggestions?
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Varta & Amaron previously is under the same johnson group but now separated. I can say both quality is almost the same, but take note that brand itself is no use. You need to understand the battery model no. as for Kancil usually is using NS40ZL battery which got few part no. to differentiate the performance.

Amaron got few models like Go, Hi-Life & Pro Hi-Life (Go is the most basic battery, while Pro is the highest range)

Same as Varta Black, Silver and Varta Black got few models like 34B19L, 38B19L, 42B20L & 46B20L. The higher the first 2 number, the better the performance. You need to look at the battery models just to know if it is worth the money.
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i bought a Amaron Hilife 42B20L from Shopee...once i got the battery, i use battery tester to check the CCA , SOH and SOC.

SOH : 100%
SOC : 70%
CCA : 400

so i proceed to charge the battery using Ctek MXS 3.8 , the whole process took me around 12hours , from 7pm to 7am ...

i checked again and i got new result

SOH : 100%
SOC : 98%
CCA : 345 ..dropped from 400 to 345

anyone know why is the CCA dropped , while SOC increased from 70% to 98% ?
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I tested my battery with a Lancol battery tester.

State of Health is 66%
State of Charge is 98%
CCA is 280A
Resistance is 10.8
Voltage is 12.81

It promoted me to replace the battery. Should I replace it? Battery is NS40ZL with 2.5 years of usage.
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I only use my 25 year old 2nd car occasionally.
Is it wise to disconnect the -ve cable from the car battery when not in use, so that it can last longer?
Is there a gadget to connect & disconnect this cable?
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i get this from email..promo from etiqa..is this consider cheap?
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jun 5 2020, 02:14 PM)
I tested my battery with a Lancol battery tester.

State of Health is 66%
State of Charge is 98%
CCA is 280A
Resistance is 10.8
Voltage is 12.81

It promoted me to replace the battery. Should I replace it? Battery is NS40ZL with 2.5 years of usage.
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SOH a bit low . As long as able to start car ,don't need to change atm.


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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jun 5 2020, 02:14 PM)
I tested my battery with a Lancol battery tester.

State of Health is 66%
State of Charge is 98%
CCA is 280A
Resistance is 10.8
Voltage is 12.81

It promoted me to replace the battery. Should I replace it? Battery is NS40ZL with 2.5 years of usage.
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My usual battery shop’s guideline for recommending a replacement is when SOH falls below 50%. I guess yours will be ok for a while more, perhaps try checking its health again at the end of this year.
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My usual battery shop’s guideline for recommending a replacement is when SOH falls below 50%. I guess yours will be ok for a while more, perhaps try checking its health again at the end of this year.
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Wow . Still can tahan till end of the year ? Normally its failing soon ...
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Hi sifu here,

My accord battery flat & unable to start due to didnt start for 3 weeks. Battery only changed last year...

Can i use 12V battery charger to charge it? do i need to take out the battery first? After charge it the battery can continue use or should replace already?

Pls help to advise. Thx!
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QUOTE(Ultra+ @ Jun 30 2020, 07:29 PM)
Hi sifu here,

My accord battery flat & unable to start due to didnt start for 3 weeks. Battery only changed last year...

Can i use 12V battery charger to charge it? do i need to take out the battery first? After charge it the battery can continue use or should replace already?

Pls help to advise. Thx!
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yes you can use a trickle charger to get the battery charged.. usually for Ctek there is no need to remove the battery from the car..

can test with battery tester after that to determine the battery health, but usually it should be fine to use..
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Thanks Zack.

I read that it is recommended to disconnect all the wires from the car battery before charging, is that right?
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Already mentioned by fellow forumer that there is NO need to disconnect battery terminals when being charged by smart battery chargers like Ctek or Bosch C3/C7 etc. Have not faced any problem with this kind of charging for the past 10yrs with smart chargers that I have owned.

Better buy smart charger with constant 12v power supply mode (on top or the normal smart charging mode), for e.g. Bosch C7, to force charge a depleted battery with very low voltage (something like below 10v). Most probably you will need this feature to revive your severely undercharged battery.

Recharged my kampung's Saga BLM battery (Camel brand NS60) this way twice, successfully, thanks to C7. Amount of money saved is way more than the cost of C7 itself.

This post has been edited by speedy3210: Jul 1 2020, 09:44 PM
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post Jul 1 2020, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ultra+ @ Jul 1 2020, 06:49 PM)
Thanks Zack.

I read that it is recommended to disconnect all the wires from the car battery before charging, is that right?
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Why is it recommended to do that ?
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post Jul 2 2020, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Jul 1 2020, 09:37 PM)
Already mentioned by fellow forumer that there is NO need to disconnect battery terminals when being charged by smart battery chargers like Ctek or Bosch C3/C7 etc. Have not faced any problem with this kind of charging for the past 10yrs with smart chargers that I have owned.

Better buy smart charger with constant 12v power supply mode (on top or the normal smart charging mode), for e.g. Bosch C7, to force charge a depleted battery with very low voltage (something like below 10v). Most probably you will need this feature to revive your severely undercharged battery.

Recharged my kampung's Saga BLM battery (Camel brand NS60) this way twice, successfully, thanks to C7. Amount of money saved is way more than the cost of C7 itself.
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Thanks for advice.

Regret not buying Ctek or Bosch... instead bought those cheap unbranded 12v charger and i'm not sure whether it is smart charger or not... sweat.gif

i scared without disconnecting car wiring to battery, it may damage car's electronics while charging.
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post Jul 2 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 1 2020, 11:41 PM)
Why is it recommended to do that ?
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Coz got lazada seller advise that... rclxub.gif

 

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