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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V48, BPL - Chelsea v West Ham 11.30pm #816

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post Jan 27 2018, 12:18 AM

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BREAKING: Edin Dzeko's proposed permanent move from Roma to Chelsea unlikely to happen - Sky sources #ssn
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post Jan 27 2018, 12:27 AM

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Dzeko to Chelsea stalled. Chelsea looking at signing Giroud on loan. Giroud can only leave Arsenal if they sign Aubameyang. If Aubameyang leaves Dortmund they want Lucas Moura from PSG. Moura prefers move to Spurs
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post Jan 27 2018, 12:45 AM

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Matt Law:

Pretty sure Palmieri will join Chelsea regardless of Dzeko. It's very much 50/50 on Dzeko but we should know for sure by Monday morning. Suspect both Chelsea and Roma posturing slightly over fee and wages at the moment.
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post Jan 27 2018, 05:41 AM

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giroud is shit..
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post Jan 27 2018, 08:22 AM

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some one posted the reason on dzeko issues

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I am assuming here, someone with better knowledge of FFP & clubs finances should clarify if I am wrong.

Even if we get both together 50+10, it will be shown as two different deals in the books. So it matters how deal is done for both. 20+6 for 4.5 years make less FFP hit, but 30+4 for 1.5/2.5 years makes quite a bit of FFP hit. This has been said by quite a few people in previous posts. So the idea probably is that if we are getting both anyway, we still pay them the same value just structure it in a way that our FFP hit is better, something like 30+6 for Emerson for 4.5 years & 20+4 for 1.5/2.5 years for Dzeko.

This is what I have understood from reading all the articles here.


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post Jan 27 2018, 09:08 AM

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if Conte leave because of the feud between him and the board, Roman should take a look at the board members, it has been a few managers left/sacked because of the same old issue.

previously Roman did not took part in voting for Mou departure, now hopefully Roman will interfere the board and hopefully keep Conte as our manager.
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Jan 27 2018, 08:22 AM)
some one posted the reason on dzeko issues
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FFP not the main issue here, but dzeko contract duration and salary
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post Jan 27 2018, 09:25 AM

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Guys, realize thats some of the fiasco this season is due to conte as well...

We have a very good Central midfielder backup in RLC...

Yet he still froze him out of regular 1st team and loan him out this season... and go spend 40mil in Bakayoko whose not even any better than Matic...

We have very good CB backup/1st team material in Zouma...yet Conte still think hes not ready for 1st team action and loan him out...

And we go splash the cash for an erratic Rudiger...where he also possess quite a time bomb DNA similar to David Luiz....


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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 27 2018, 09:25 AM)
Guys, realize thats some of the fiasco this season is due to conte as well...

We have a very good Central midfielder backup in RLC...

Yet he still froze him out of regular 1st team and loan him out this season... and go spend 40mil in Bakayoko whose not even any better than Matic...

We have very good CB backup/1st team material in Zouma...yet Conte still think hes not ready for 1st team action and loan him out...

And we go splash the cash for an erratic Rudiger...where he also possess quite a time bomb DNA similar to David Luiz....
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Don't think conte prefer rlc, so better for him to loan and gain play time
While rudiger can play left + right CB and wingback
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post Jan 27 2018, 09:38 AM

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Morata, courtois and Willian out vs newscastle
Fabregas in doubt
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 27 2018, 10:25 AM)
Guys, realize thats some of the fiasco this season is due to conte as well...

We have a very good Central midfielder backup in RLC...

Yet he still froze him out of regular 1st team and loan him out this season... and go spend 40mil in Bakayoko whose not even any better than Matic...

We have very good CB backup/1st team material in Zouma...yet Conte still think hes not ready for 1st team action and loan him out...

And we go splash the cash for an erratic Rudiger...where he also possess quite a time bomb DNA similar to David Luiz....
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RLC not ready, Zouma need game time plus we are pushing Christensen.

I don't think the comments on Rudiger and Bakayoko are fair, Rudiger never really play 3 at the back and so far he is okay, as for Bakayoko we bring him to be almost a box-to-box player not replacing Matic. He drive the ball forward way better than Matic ever be.

we are changing the style of play, not trading 1 type of player with another one.
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Zouma long term injury lah. He benefits alot with play time at stoke. Shud be no argument at all

20+ games under him edi
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Bakayoko is shit. Fair comment. No need to elaborate.

Rudiger look good earlier in the season but a bit Rusty as of late. Even his pace macam slowing down. I like his nononsense approach.

Our CMs are the biggest problem ATM. Fabregas, drinkwater look good at best when pair with kante. Not great.

Up front, morata clearly suffer a dip in form ATM. Willian form on the rise. Pedro's form kinda off this season. Michy not good enough. Only hazard doing great week in week out.

I really wish we can get auba this window. Desperately need a different type of forward. Not really fancy dzeko. Not really fancy a morata type of forward.
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For me, Michy not given enough game time even Morata get the red card suspension and injuries. Conte prefer work with 3 musketeers than given him to gel with other players.

I still don't think Michy is that bad cos he doesn't give a run of games time. Always start n stop game for him. Breaking his rhythm and linking play better hazard/william/pedro

Hopefully it is not same story as Lukaku console.gif

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 27 2018, 09:38 AM)
Morata, courtois and Willian out vs newscastle
Fabregas in doubt
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Wow.. Injury FC ke ni?
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If Conte able to hold on to Matic i think our situation might be better than current one.

look at United, after they got Matic, Pogba's form already improved.

but we have bakayoko. i think he needs special tutoring from makelele or lampard on how to play football on premier league level. this is not french league where the ref can kick a player and sent that player off.

if baka continue doing nothing in the heart of the midfield, it would not be a surprise me to see conte gone at the end of the season.
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QUOTE(LawrenceKai @ Jan 27 2018, 01:22 PM)
Wow.. Injury FC ke ni?
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jan 27 2018, 01:50 PM)
If Conte able to hold on to Matic i think our situation might be better than current one.

look at United, after they got Matic, Pogba's form already improved.

but we have bakayoko. i think he needs special tutoring from makelele or lampard on how to play football on premier league level. this is not french league where the ref can kick a player and sent that player off.

if baka continue doing nothing in the heart of the midfield, it would not be a surprise me to see conte gone at the end of the season.
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conte wanna hold matic, but board decided to let him go at 40m
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 27 2018, 09:08 AM)
if Conte leave because of the feud between him and the board, Roman should take a look at the board members, it has been a few managers left/sacked because of the same old issue.

previously Roman did not took part in voting for Mou departure, now hopefully Roman will interfere the board and hopefully keep Conte as our manager.
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Finally got someone who has the same thought as i am.

Be it pep,carlo,klopp or any name that will replace conte in future, this issue will forever keep repeating until no one willing to come here OR some manager will just take advantage of this "weaknesses" of ours.

Cant deliver manager/coach wishes?? 1st season they here all ok. Next season the board will say suck it up yet, they want us to win trophy?? doh.gif

If the problem arise and occur at one manager i can blame the manager. But 2-3 times already it happen, i dont think its manager problem.

At first i thought emanelo is the main prob but now i believe its the board. Money issue? I dont think so. Our target not as expensive as vvd or pogba. Its normal price if u ask me. How can it be an issue?

Manager system issue? How can a manager perfect his system if we cant buy they player that he want? Yes bakayoko and morata is his request but a system can never work if its half bake.

I grew tired of this. Chelsea will going downhill if board keep being a jack ass. I dont mind if we didnt win trophy as long as board not being a jerk. If they want the manager to win trophy, deliver his wishes first. If all wishes delivered and still suck, then i can blame the manager.

Eventually if this keep happening, i dont see we going anywhere. Good players will keep away from our club, great manager will also say no soon and we will never see any legend born in our club in future. The system in the board need to be reformat, that is all i can say before we turn to be next arsenal. Money is not our forte anymore. MU and MC are the new powerhouse on this field now
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Kaveh Solhekol:
Chelsea willing to pay £26m for Roma striker Edin Dzeko. He wants basic £90,000 a week & contract until summer of 2021
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 27 2018, 09:51 PM)
Kaveh Solhekol:
Chelsea willing to pay £26m for Roma striker Edin Dzeko. He wants basic £90,000 a week & contract until summer of 2021
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Pretty reasonable request...

I see dzeko can play top leve until 33-34. His assest is his height, phsyique and some athleticism...not speed...

Drogba type...

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