for cl-st the price is around there lah....

alternatively, i sell you my m-size IS-17 Lorenzo scheme. same price RM350.
been not wearing for more than a year ever since i wear a caberg duke, sacrifice safety abit for the convenience of a flip up.

AGV k3 pricing has been hovering around 800+/- from a few years back.

then K3 SV (sun visor) was introduced, they sell for close to RM1k, but after the fact that it was made in china was made known, then they started to get lower and lower. so i say rm800 to be the max price, if can get cheaper lower the better. not to say made in china is bad, but just people perception that AGV an italian brand but made in china they feel cheated.

IS17 - fullface with inner visor. outer visor pinlock ready, but insert not sold with the helmet have to buy separately. solid, liner quality as good as rpha series. tight fitting and relatively small shell size so i dont look like a big head doll when wearing it. however it is on the noisy side without earplugs. pretty affordable for around rm600 +/-. dulu2 made in korea but after a while i heard they switched production to made in china, only rpha series left to be made in korea.

Duke - flip up with inner visor. pinlock ready, visor included when buy new helmet. abit flimsy, can compress the sides of the helmet even when the face flip is locked down, but it is expected, and typically common for a sub-rm1k flip-up. slightly heavier than IS17, more rounded in shape but short at the chin area, meaning once the lid is closed down there is only about 5mm space from my chin. noise level is terrible, worse than IS17. despite all its flaw, it is the only one brand that is actually made in italy for its price.

since i no longer ride a big bike with loud exhaust, i no longer have the need to wear a fullface nor put on earplugs. so what i do more nowadays is wear earphones inside the duke to cut down on the wind noise. plus i am no longer riding fast so i can afford to sacrifice the solid safety of a fullface for the convenience of a flipup whenever i stop for petrol, toilet, or even roadblock - just flip up can see face. shorter put on and take off time.

also considering the pricing at about rm600 i think it give me best value. kena calar pun tak la sakit hati sangat compared to wearing a Neotec, although i do wish that someday i would like to own one.

can no problem i work in KL after all, just pm me when u wana try and i will bring it out. no compulsion.

1. tak panas
2. tengok bajet lah, beli sebaik mana yg mampu. daripada tak protekkk langsung. bila ko jatuh tersembam muka cium tar tu, ko pakai FF rm200 masih lebih protekk daripada pakai arai ram4 open face yg berharga ribu2 tu.
3. boleh.

Check out Nolan N64 too

Should have smell because buat jeruk pekasam in the cabinet for more than a year lol

Of course no smell lah, aiyoh

Lebih kurang. Just extra option

just for clarification sake i think need to put this down.

full face, everybody knows, no need explain

open face is like this





flip-up is like this.





modular is like this





commonly the phrase modular and flip-up is used interchangeably and it could mean either one, but i just differentiate it for clarification. you are free to agree or disagree.

but just that a small number of ppl had this one misconception that when they say open face they intended to refer to flip-ups, because well, the face section can be opened up lol. so i want to correct that misunderstanding.

This post has been edited by andrewhtf: Jan 5 2018, 01:49 PM

open face is the most common helmet in msia. cheap, simple and easy.

many doesnt have a face shield - think apollo ms88, some old bells and your usual half-shells. these helmets exist just for the sake to fulfill the law requirement of wearing a helmet. safety? yeah if you consider putting on a socks over your dick works just as good as a durex.

those with a face shield, offer some wind and rain protection, and that's all. it is thin, it is flimsy and it opens easily since there are no locking mechanism to hold it down in place in case of crash/impact. it doesnt matter if your helmet is RM30 index or RM2k arai/shoei, as long as it is open face, your face is exposed.

modular/flipup offers a step-up in terms of safety over open face, that's for sure.

with a proper locking hinge, once the facelid is closed down it is more secure than an open face. in case of crash and frontal impact it definitely protects better, but at the same time, offers you conveniences like wearing an open face.

however due to extra moving parts, wear and tear is bound to happen and those hinges will get loose over time, exposing higher risks. there are also risks of parts breaking down due to flimsy quality or just poor design, that is where u hear stories about flip-ups being an unsafe helmet.

so i'd suggest to avoid flipups from cheapo brands and put good money into established brands that has sent their helmet for proper certifications and ratings. shoei neotec, schuberth C3 comes to mind. however it is interesting to note that caberg duke got a pretty good rating while being affordable too.

Last but not least, fullface - this one no need story much. single piece construction for all around protection. less risky than flip up, there is no denying that a cheapo FF still is better than expensive open face. but the same principle applies, buy the best one can afford and try to avoid cheapo brands if possible.

all the best and be safe on the road.

hitam. putih susah nak jaga

This post has been edited by andrewhtf: Jan 5 2018, 04:35 PM