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Enquiries/Recommendations Notebook Recommendation Thread v.30, Ultrabook/Gaming Laptop

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post Apr 26 2018, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(JW123 @ Apr 26 2018, 04:02 PM)
Any good fhd laptop recommendation, with 45W quad/hex core cpu, at least 8gb ram, a mediocre gpu and equipped with small ssd and hdd ?  ?
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Dell G7 7588
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post Apr 26 2018, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous_98 @ Apr 26 2018, 05:53 PM)
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Level51 W15-Lite (N950TP6) with desktop CFL CPU
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post Apr 26 2018, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Davird @ Apr 26 2018, 07:57 PM)
prefer a bigger screen. what if i up my budget to around 3k?
Is this any good - acer-swift-3-sf315-51-520j?
https://my-store.acer.com/swift-3-sf315-51-520j
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Yes that's a good option. But it has entry level IPS panel which is worse than good quality IPS. Is 14 inch OK to you?
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post Apr 26 2018, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Davird @ Apr 26 2018, 08:40 PM)
Currently using 14inch. Was thinking about  getting bigger screen but I'm ok with 14.
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You don't need overkill performance for your needs. I would priority display quality (after looking at your usage). Asus UX430UQ with i3 7100U would be my choice. If you need 8GB RAM, Asus UX430UA with i3 7100U.
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post Apr 27 2018, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(b0rhui @ Apr 27 2018, 02:10 AM)
Got the xiaomi notebook pro at the end

I7 8550U
16GB
256GB M.2 Nvme
MX150 2GB
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FYI 8550U and 8250U don't have much performance diff (besides the 2MB more L3 cache) due to cooling and TDP limitations. Xiaomi Notebook Pro has an excellent cooling so spend your time to tune the CPU via Intel XTU (undervolting+increase PL1 limit), can maintain 3.4GHz at all core clock just like 7700HQ.
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post Apr 27 2018, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(chicargo @ Apr 27 2018, 08:27 AM)
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is this a good price for the laptop + SSD and RAM upgrade?
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A bit expensive. You can get 4GB RAM+128GB M.2 SSD as low as RM420. There's a 320s 14 on sale now in Lazada, only 2199.
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post Apr 27 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(toktok @ Apr 27 2018, 08:10 AM)
Looking for portable and lightweight Ultrabook. Currently narrowed down my choice to Hp Envy 13, Asus UX331UN, Acer Swift 5, and Acer Spin 5. Provided if the are same spec, which is more reliable? And more recommended. Thank you in advance.
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Reliability mainly depends on luck and how you use/keep it.

Envy 13, UX331UN - mediocre cooling (due to small chassis), everything pretty much the same
Acer Swift 5 - OKish battery life, low brightness, high sRGB touch display
Acer Spin 5 13 - base unit has some flex

Every model has its own pros and cons. Check NBC reviews to compare

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post Apr 27 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Apr 27 2018, 12:53 PM)
Worth to get this? (RM3099 at the time of posting)

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/microsof...61ecSlg4Py&mp=3
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Potential QC issues (Surface lineup issue), 4GB RAM will struggle (soldered), insanely hard maintenance/upgradability, cooling not that good. Excellent display and battery life, portable.
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post Apr 27 2018, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(b3arbear @ Apr 27 2018, 02:40 PM)
I wanted to have a laptop for gaming and video editing.

budget about 4k

should I go for thunderobot ST PLUS or Xiao MI notebook pro? or any alternative?
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ST Plus is based on N850HK1. That model runs VERY hot. Even a repaste couldn't help much. Xiaomi Notebook Pro is another story since the specs are not comparable. It has good build quality, display, input devices, battery life and cooling (8250U can be tuned to 7700HQ).

May I know what games do you play?
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post Apr 27 2018, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(b3arbear @ Apr 27 2018, 03:18 PM)
sorry, this is my first time buying laptop.. runs very hot means the laptop will be very hot if use for lets say 1-2 hours? cz I went to youtube, it said the fans did cool down the laptop and doesn't feel hot.. repaste meant what?

can notebook pro play game and compatible to use in Malaysia?

games - only dota 2, as at now.
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For a mediocre cooling design, even in gaming CPU and GPU temps are already high (~80℃). If under heavy stress test the cooling system will die. Poor thermals lead to high inner temps, high surface temps and high fan noise while under load. Every laptop has different cooling performance, check reviews from Notebookcheck or Ultrabookreview (or notebookreview forum)

N850HK1: cooling design fault: fans too small and not powerful enough (chosen the wrong fans), tripod heatsink design, poor airflow etc.

Helios 300: Outdated cooling design, CPU runs hot as a result

MSI GL/GP: low quality thermal paste, fairly thin chassis

Asus GL: low quality thermal paste, thin chassis, undersized heatsink and insufficient heatpipes (in some models)

Repaste means replace thermal paste.

If only Dota then MX150 can handle it, no need 1050/1050TI. Thus the Notebook Pro can handle it. You need adapter for the plug (China plug), maybe need reinstall Windows too if you don't want Chinese Windows, otherwise compatible. One thing special about this laptop is, you can tune the 8250U CPU to match 7700HQ performance by undervolting and increasing PL1 (TDP) limit via Intel XTU. (may need a repaste if the thermal paste job is bad)

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post Apr 28 2018, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(clon12 @ Apr 28 2018, 03:10 PM)
Need a recommendation here

1. Preferred brand : Reliable after sales service
2. Budget : RM3500
3. Usage : Video editing using Adobe Premiere, Photoshop/Illustrator, office works
4. Screen Size : 15.6"

Did some lazada searching and found the Lenovo Y520 and HP Omen 15 (2017) both fits the budget range, but both laptop has display that is subpar or mediocre at best. Y520 has i7-7700HQ and 1050Ti while HP Omen has i7-7700HQ and 1050. Would like to get some other opinions.

Thanks!
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HP Omen 15 2017 has a good IPS panel but OKish cooling and build quality. Get a new model with CFL-H CPU like Dell G7. They have good after sales service (bad service can still occur if you're unlucky)
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post Apr 28 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(chokie @ Apr 28 2018, 10:54 PM)
Preferred brand : DELL,HP,Lenovo
Budget : RM1500
Usage : Computing
Screen Size : 14 or 15
GPU : any
CPU : any
RAM : any

thank you
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Used Thinkpad like T430/T520 would be my choices, much better than all 14/15 inch options in this price range.
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post Apr 29 2018, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(fish133 @ Apr 29 2018, 03:31 AM)
1. Preferred brand :any
2. Budget :below 2k
3. Usage : normal uni usage , office software
4. Screen Size :any
Sufi pls recommend me a laptop for my sister up coming uni life , I was for quoted some HP with 6th gen i3 for around 1.8 k but I think I still can get something better for that price . Search internet but noticed that laptops doesn’t get advertised much compare to desktop . Plus the specs are abit confusing . Pls also show the link to the product you are recommending .tqtqtq
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Buying laptop isn't just only specs

New: Lenovo Ideapad 120s, Chuwi stuffs
Used/refurb (1 yr warranty), much better choice IMO: Thinkpad T430, T520, T440s. Just need to add new battery, maybe SSD and some extra RAM
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post Apr 29 2018, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Davird @ Apr 29 2018, 02:45 PM)
was looking around lowyat yesterday to get a feel for the laptop.
why the shop guys keep pushing for me to get
lenovo legion y520 i5 and acer swift 5?
They said this is better and priced more or less the same as ux430ua?
They just made me confused. can please let me know the difference.
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UX430UA and Swift 5 are Ultrabooks. Y520 is gaming laptop with dGPU. So not a good comparison. Do not listen to shop guys.

UX430UA has a good display. Swift 5 has a good display too with touchscreen enabled (with good contrast and sRGB) but the max brightness is too low. Y520 has entry level IPS with low sRGB and OKish contrast.

UX430UA with i3 is slower than 8250U in Swift 5 and 7300HQ in Y520. 8250U is generally faster than 7300HQ, however that's not the case with Swift 5 due to mediocre cooling (due to thin profile).

Swift 5 and UX430UA are WAY more portable in terms of weight and thickness.

UX430UA has good battery life. Swift 5 has OKish battery life while Y520 has mediocre battery life.

Y520 has the worst build quality among the 3 options (still good for gaming laptop). UX430UA have aluminum frame+plastic body. Swift 5 has full metal body.

There may be more differences but these are what I remember. Look at Ultrabookreview and Notebookcheck reviews to compare.
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post Apr 30 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(noloveishere @ Apr 30 2018, 11:33 AM)
1. Preferred brand : Any with good after sales service
2. Budget : RM1500
3. Usage : College (arts foundation) so should be fairly light apps like Google docs and spreadsheets.
4. Screen Size : 14 preferably, less is a bit small and more can be too heavy

Looking for something for college. Quite light usage, already have desktop for games and whatnot. Prefer something that is emphasized on being light and portable, and has ssd. Also a good battery life.

Thanks!
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Your budget is very tight. I would suggest used Thinkpad like T430 with new battery and extra RAM/SSD

If you don't want used, Ideapad 120s or Chuwi stuffs

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post Apr 30 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(noloveishere @ Apr 30 2018, 11:48 AM)
Never heard of chuwi. How good is this brand? Do you have any model you recommend?
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Reviews of their stuffs are quite good. Cheap, good build quality, OK battery life, IPS display (some are high quality 3:2 panel). Can't comment on reliability. Warranty handled by importer so buy at your own risk. Most of their stuffs are good, just compare the specs. At such price range they offer the best options.

If you want 14 inch, Lapbook 14.1, though this model isn't that good. I recommend Lapbook 12.3.

Laptops in this price range have sacrifices so check reviews from Notebookcheck or Ultrabookreview (Anandtech or TechRadar for Chuwi laptops reviews)

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post Apr 30 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Apr 30 2018, 02:28 PM)
can i slowly upgrade the ram and ssd for these models. tight on budget but would like to have the option to slowly scale up the performance by adding ram and change to SSD?
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I would still suggest both upgrades. However if your budget don't allow, upgrade SSD first then RAM.
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post Apr 30 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Apr 30 2018, 04:30 PM)
Additional question, given the price different is not that great with your suggestions to upgrade both ssd and ram.
Would you choose Asus UX430U over Lenovo 320S?
I do understand Asus is i3 vs i5 of Lenovo but I’m unsure I can tell the difference
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Depends on your usage. UX430UA has better display, slightly better build quality and slightly better battery life. And more portable too. 320s 14 has better CPU performance and slightly better keyboard. Also dGPU.

Zenbook is premium consumer line while Ideapad 300 series is budget consumer line so there might be differences in QC too

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post Apr 30 2018, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(choong1990 @ Apr 30 2018, 07:44 PM)
Any suggestion for Lenovo,prefer ssd+hdd, light weight for working purpose. Budget below3k
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320s 14 or 15 with 8250U, 52Wh battery and IPS panel. 14 inch model need manual upgrade SSD. Both models need RAM upgrade.
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post Apr 30 2018, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(choong1990 @ Apr 30 2018, 09:54 PM)
do you think if just for working purpose ssd is that really important?
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SSD important for smooth OS. HDD runs laggy

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